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If say it was despite Carroll, not because of him Liverpool are doing as well as they are.
I wouldn't say jordi cruyff or karel poborsky are blinding success stories. Still won things though.
Enrique's another story. Doing alright, the Bastard.
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Carroll`s career so far in Liverpoola synopsis...
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Posted 20 February 2012 - 07:46 PM
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Posted 26 February 2012 - 07:20 PM
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Bumping this so leazes can find it easily once his furious raging hard-on has subsided
Que sera sera, whatever will be will be, we're going to Italy...
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 10:24 AM
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BestBaNone, on 26 February 2012 - 07:20 PM, said:
Bumping this so leazes can find it easily once his furious raging hard-on has subsided
shame about all those trophy players Liverpool bought mind.
Still, you know best
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http://z3.invisionfr...forum/index.php?
Mike Ashley owns NUFC to advertise his Sports Company and make a profit, premiership survival is the only aim, to advertise the Sports Company worldwide, and if he doesn't make a profit he will sell a player instead which is far easier than going for the Champions League money and success on the pitch.
'Our vision for the club is to finish 10th or above every year, year after year. That is our target" - Derek Llambias, 30th March 2011
QUOTE(LeazesMag @ Mar 15 2008, 10:43 PM)
My money is on Keegan buying well and improving us quite a lot if Ashley backs him.
"Yet again it falls to us Mackems to educate the Geordies!! Majority means 'the most', so if there were three choices and two of them got 33 votes, and one of them got 34 votes, the 34 would be the majority, and would be the winner, so, in this case 48 is definately the most, and therefore the MAJORITY. So DomMan, who is the dummy?" - SMB
http://z3.invisionfr...forum/index.php?
Mike Ashley owns NUFC to advertise his Sports Company and make a profit, premiership survival is the only aim, to advertise the Sports Company worldwide, and if he doesn't make a profit he will sell a player instead which is far easier than going for the Champions League money and success on the pitch.
'Our vision for the club is to finish 10th or above every year, year after year. That is our target" - Derek Llambias, 30th March 2011
QUOTE(LeazesMag @ Mar 15 2008, 10:43 PM)
My money is on Keegan buying well and improving us quite a lot if Ashley backs him.
"Yet again it falls to us Mackems to educate the Geordies!! Majority means 'the most', so if there were three choices and two of them got 33 votes, and one of them got 34 votes, the 34 would be the majority, and would be the winner, so, in this case 48 is definately the most, and therefore the MAJORITY. So DomMan, who is the dummy?" - SMB
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 02:15 PM
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But they're not top four... which is more important than trophies according to you.
Que sera sera, whatever will be will be, we're going to Italy...
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 02:33 PM
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BestBaNone, on 27 February 2012 - 02:15 PM, said:
But they're not top four... which is more important than trophies according to you.
but according to you, "we won nowt". Just pointing it out for your benefit, anyway, if you think we will finish above them, you are living in dreamland. Of course, those "trophy players" they have, have proved a right waste of money haven't they.
Edited by LeazesMag, 27 February 2012 - 02:38 PM.
howaythetoon
http://z3.invisionfr...forum/index.php?
Mike Ashley owns NUFC to advertise his Sports Company and make a profit, premiership survival is the only aim, to advertise the Sports Company worldwide, and if he doesn't make a profit he will sell a player instead which is far easier than going for the Champions League money and success on the pitch.
'Our vision for the club is to finish 10th or above every year, year after year. That is our target" - Derek Llambias, 30th March 2011
QUOTE(LeazesMag @ Mar 15 2008, 10:43 PM)
My money is on Keegan buying well and improving us quite a lot if Ashley backs him.
"Yet again it falls to us Mackems to educate the Geordies!! Majority means 'the most', so if there were three choices and two of them got 33 votes, and one of them got 34 votes, the 34 would be the majority, and would be the winner, so, in this case 48 is definately the most, and therefore the MAJORITY. So DomMan, who is the dummy?" - SMB
http://z3.invisionfr...forum/index.php?
Mike Ashley owns NUFC to advertise his Sports Company and make a profit, premiership survival is the only aim, to advertise the Sports Company worldwide, and if he doesn't make a profit he will sell a player instead which is far easier than going for the Champions League money and success on the pitch.
'Our vision for the club is to finish 10th or above every year, year after year. That is our target" - Derek Llambias, 30th March 2011
QUOTE(LeazesMag @ Mar 15 2008, 10:43 PM)
My money is on Keegan buying well and improving us quite a lot if Ashley backs him.
"Yet again it falls to us Mackems to educate the Geordies!! Majority means 'the most', so if there were three choices and two of them got 33 votes, and one of them got 34 votes, the 34 would be the majority, and would be the winner, so, in this case 48 is definately the most, and therefore the MAJORITY. So DomMan, who is the dummy?" - SMB
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 02:54 PM
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LeazesMag, on 27 February 2012 - 10:24 AM, said:
BestBaNone, on 26 February 2012 - 07:20 PM, said:
Bumping this so leazes can find it easily once his furious raging hard-on has subsided
shame about all those trophy players Liverpool bought mind.
Still, you know best
It took them 120 minutes and penalties to get past a mediocre championship team, they are closer to us than they are to City and Man U. The way you go on its like they are Barcelona. It's their first trophy in 6 years
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 02:55 PM
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Carling cup is a tin pot trophy.
I think I said that when Spurs won it - out of pure spite.
I'd fucking love to win it.
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 04:17 PM
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jaythesouthernmag, on 27 February 2012 - 02:54 PM, said:
LeazesMag, on 27 February 2012 - 10:24 AM, said:
BestBaNone, on 26 February 2012 - 07:20 PM, said:
Bumping this so leazes can find it easily once his furious raging hard-on has subsided
shame about all those trophy players Liverpool bought mind.
Still, you know best
It took them 120 minutes and penalties to get past a mediocre championship team, they are closer to us than they are to City and Man U. The way you go on its like they are Barcelona. It's their first trophy in 6 years
they were happy enough yesterday.
People have said "we won nowt", I'm pointing out that "trophy players" actually pay dividends or perhaps you would like to swap the likes of Perch and Obertan for the return of Enrique and Bellamy or Carroll, as you think our setup is "better" ?
We will never match the likes of Liverpool and Spurs again, until we attempt to do things in the same way they do.
howaythetoon
http://z3.invisionfr...forum/index.php?
Mike Ashley owns NUFC to advertise his Sports Company and make a profit, premiership survival is the only aim, to advertise the Sports Company worldwide, and if he doesn't make a profit he will sell a player instead which is far easier than going for the Champions League money and success on the pitch.
'Our vision for the club is to finish 10th or above every year, year after year. That is our target" - Derek Llambias, 30th March 2011
QUOTE(LeazesMag @ Mar 15 2008, 10:43 PM)
My money is on Keegan buying well and improving us quite a lot if Ashley backs him.
"Yet again it falls to us Mackems to educate the Geordies!! Majority means 'the most', so if there were three choices and two of them got 33 votes, and one of them got 34 votes, the 34 would be the majority, and would be the winner, so, in this case 48 is definately the most, and therefore the MAJORITY. So DomMan, who is the dummy?" - SMB
http://z3.invisionfr...forum/index.php?
Mike Ashley owns NUFC to advertise his Sports Company and make a profit, premiership survival is the only aim, to advertise the Sports Company worldwide, and if he doesn't make a profit he will sell a player instead which is far easier than going for the Champions League money and success on the pitch.
'Our vision for the club is to finish 10th or above every year, year after year. That is our target" - Derek Llambias, 30th March 2011
QUOTE(LeazesMag @ Mar 15 2008, 10:43 PM)
My money is on Keegan buying well and improving us quite a lot if Ashley backs him.
"Yet again it falls to us Mackems to educate the Geordies!! Majority means 'the most', so if there were three choices and two of them got 33 votes, and one of them got 34 votes, the 34 would be the majority, and would be the winner, so, in this case 48 is definately the most, and therefore the MAJORITY. So DomMan, who is the dummy?" - SMB
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 04:18 PM
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Tom, on 27 February 2012 - 02:55 PM, said:
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Carling cup is a tin pot trophy.
I think I said that when Spurs won it - out of pure spite.
I'd fucking love to win it.
exactly.
Only an absolute fool would say otherwise.
howaythetoon
http://z3.invisionfr...forum/index.php?
Mike Ashley owns NUFC to advertise his Sports Company and make a profit, premiership survival is the only aim, to advertise the Sports Company worldwide, and if he doesn't make a profit he will sell a player instead which is far easier than going for the Champions League money and success on the pitch.
'Our vision for the club is to finish 10th or above every year, year after year. That is our target" - Derek Llambias, 30th March 2011
QUOTE(LeazesMag @ Mar 15 2008, 10:43 PM)
My money is on Keegan buying well and improving us quite a lot if Ashley backs him.
"Yet again it falls to us Mackems to educate the Geordies!! Majority means 'the most', so if there were three choices and two of them got 33 votes, and one of them got 34 votes, the 34 would be the majority, and would be the winner, so, in this case 48 is definately the most, and therefore the MAJORITY. So DomMan, who is the dummy?" - SMB
http://z3.invisionfr...forum/index.php?
Mike Ashley owns NUFC to advertise his Sports Company and make a profit, premiership survival is the only aim, to advertise the Sports Company worldwide, and if he doesn't make a profit he will sell a player instead which is far easier than going for the Champions League money and success on the pitch.
'Our vision for the club is to finish 10th or above every year, year after year. That is our target" - Derek Llambias, 30th March 2011
QUOTE(LeazesMag @ Mar 15 2008, 10:43 PM)
My money is on Keegan buying well and improving us quite a lot if Ashley backs him.
"Yet again it falls to us Mackems to educate the Geordies!! Majority means 'the most', so if there were three choices and two of them got 33 votes, and one of them got 34 votes, the 34 would be the majority, and would be the winner, so, in this case 48 is definately the most, and therefore the MAJORITY. So DomMan, who is the dummy?" - SMB
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 04:20 PM
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BestBaNone, on 27 February 2012 - 02:15 PM, said:
But they're not top four... which is more important than trophies according to you.
you won't find any posts from me saying that chum, I was one of the few people who didn't actually think it was beneath us when others took a champions League place for granted, insisting that "anyone could do it now", the fundamental reason why the team that only finished 5th was booed.
What do you think of those ex Newcastle "trophy players, troublemakers and overpriced players we are better off without" who won a trophy with Liverpool yesterday ?
Edited by LeazesMag, 27 February 2012 - 04:22 PM.
howaythetoon
http://z3.invisionfr...forum/index.php?
Mike Ashley owns NUFC to advertise his Sports Company and make a profit, premiership survival is the only aim, to advertise the Sports Company worldwide, and if he doesn't make a profit he will sell a player instead which is far easier than going for the Champions League money and success on the pitch.
'Our vision for the club is to finish 10th or above every year, year after year. That is our target" - Derek Llambias, 30th March 2011
QUOTE(LeazesMag @ Mar 15 2008, 10:43 PM)
My money is on Keegan buying well and improving us quite a lot if Ashley backs him.
"Yet again it falls to us Mackems to educate the Geordies!! Majority means 'the most', so if there were three choices and two of them got 33 votes, and one of them got 34 votes, the 34 would be the majority, and would be the winner, so, in this case 48 is definately the most, and therefore the MAJORITY. So DomMan, who is the dummy?" - SMB
http://z3.invisionfr...forum/index.php?
Mike Ashley owns NUFC to advertise his Sports Company and make a profit, premiership survival is the only aim, to advertise the Sports Company worldwide, and if he doesn't make a profit he will sell a player instead which is far easier than going for the Champions League money and success on the pitch.
'Our vision for the club is to finish 10th or above every year, year after year. That is our target" - Derek Llambias, 30th March 2011
QUOTE(LeazesMag @ Mar 15 2008, 10:43 PM)
My money is on Keegan buying well and improving us quite a lot if Ashley backs him.
"Yet again it falls to us Mackems to educate the Geordies!! Majority means 'the most', so if there were three choices and two of them got 33 votes, and one of them got 34 votes, the 34 would be the majority, and would be the winner, so, in this case 48 is definately the most, and therefore the MAJORITY. So DomMan, who is the dummy?" - SMB
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 04:22 PM
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Why are you using Perch and Obertan in your example?
Why not Ba, Tiote and Cisse? They were all brought in under this "set up".
Why not Ba, Tiote and Cisse? They were all brought in under this "set up".
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 04:24 PM
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Gejon, on 27 February 2012 - 04:22 PM, said:
Why are you using Perch and Obertan in your example?
Why not Ba, Tiote and Cisse? They were all brought in under this "set up".
Why not Ba, Tiote and Cisse? They were all brought in under this "set up".
why do people put Owen down as their example of "failure" ?
Ba, Tiote and Cisse will all be sold for cheaper, and so it will go on.
One day, people like you might just wake up.
howaythetoon
http://z3.invisionfr...forum/index.php?
Mike Ashley owns NUFC to advertise his Sports Company and make a profit, premiership survival is the only aim, to advertise the Sports Company worldwide, and if he doesn't make a profit he will sell a player instead which is far easier than going for the Champions League money and success on the pitch.
'Our vision for the club is to finish 10th or above every year, year after year. That is our target" - Derek Llambias, 30th March 2011
QUOTE(LeazesMag @ Mar 15 2008, 10:43 PM)
My money is on Keegan buying well and improving us quite a lot if Ashley backs him.
"Yet again it falls to us Mackems to educate the Geordies!! Majority means 'the most', so if there were three choices and two of them got 33 votes, and one of them got 34 votes, the 34 would be the majority, and would be the winner, so, in this case 48 is definately the most, and therefore the MAJORITY. So DomMan, who is the dummy?" - SMB
http://z3.invisionfr...forum/index.php?
Mike Ashley owns NUFC to advertise his Sports Company and make a profit, premiership survival is the only aim, to advertise the Sports Company worldwide, and if he doesn't make a profit he will sell a player instead which is far easier than going for the Champions League money and success on the pitch.
'Our vision for the club is to finish 10th or above every year, year after year. That is our target" - Derek Llambias, 30th March 2011
QUOTE(LeazesMag @ Mar 15 2008, 10:43 PM)
My money is on Keegan buying well and improving us quite a lot if Ashley backs him.
"Yet again it falls to us Mackems to educate the Geordies!! Majority means 'the most', so if there were three choices and two of them got 33 votes, and one of them got 34 votes, the 34 would be the majority, and would be the winner, so, in this case 48 is definately the most, and therefore the MAJORITY. So DomMan, who is the dummy?" - SMB
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 04:27 PM
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Gejon, on 27 February 2012 - 04:22 PM, said:
Why are you using Perch and Obertan in your example?
Why not Ba, Tiote and Cisse? They were all brought in under this "set up".
Why not Ba, Tiote and Cisse? They were all brought in under this "set up".
Exactly it's like comparing Ba, Tiote and Cisse to Spearling, Doni and Aquillani.
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 04:28 PM
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LeazesMag, on 27 February 2012 - 04:24 PM, said:
Gejon, on 27 February 2012 - 04:22 PM, said:
Why are you using Perch and Obertan in your example?
Why not Ba, Tiote and Cisse? They were all brought in under this "set up".
Why not Ba, Tiote and Cisse? They were all brought in under this "set up".
why do people put Owen down as their example of "failure" ?
Ba, Tiote and Cisse will all be sold for cheaper, and so it will go on.
One day, people like you might just wake up.
Unless we pay someone to take Ba, we won't sell him for less than we paid for him.
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 04:35 PM
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LeazesMag, on 27 February 2012 - 04:24 PM, said:
Gejon, on 27 February 2012 - 04:22 PM, said:
Why are you using Perch and Obertan in your example?
Why not Ba, Tiote and Cisse? They were all brought in under this "set up".
Why not Ba, Tiote and Cisse? They were all brought in under this "set up".
why do people put Owen down as their example of "failure" ?
Ba, Tiote and Cisse will all be sold for cheaper, and so it will go on.
One day, people like you might just wake up.
Doesn't answer a single thing in my post
You may as well have gone on about Muslims or something... hang on, don't!
Why did you deliberately ignore the good players we have signed and start comparing Perch and Obertan to Carroll, Enrique and Bellamy?
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 04:54 PM
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Gejon, on 27 February 2012 - 04:35 PM, said:
LeazesMag, on 27 February 2012 - 04:24 PM, said:
Gejon, on 27 February 2012 - 04:22 PM, said:
Why are you using Perch and Obertan in your example?
Why not Ba, Tiote and Cisse? They were all brought in under this "set up".
Why not Ba, Tiote and Cisse? They were all brought in under this "set up".
why do people put Owen down as their example of "failure" ?
Ba, Tiote and Cisse will all be sold for cheaper, and so it will go on.
One day, people like you might just wake up.
Doesn't answer a single thing in my post
You may as well have gone on about Muslims or something... hang on, don't!
Why did you deliberately ignore the good players we have signed and start comparing Perch and Obertan to Carroll, Enrique and Bellamy?
omg
Why do people harp on about "trophy signings", when we never signed Messi ? Would people not like Messi to play for Newcastle ?
After all this time, you STILL don't get it
Edited by LeazesMag, 27 February 2012 - 04:55 PM.
howaythetoon
http://z3.invisionfr...forum/index.php?
Mike Ashley owns NUFC to advertise his Sports Company and make a profit, premiership survival is the only aim, to advertise the Sports Company worldwide, and if he doesn't make a profit he will sell a player instead which is far easier than going for the Champions League money and success on the pitch.
'Our vision for the club is to finish 10th or above every year, year after year. That is our target" - Derek Llambias, 30th March 2011
QUOTE(LeazesMag @ Mar 15 2008, 10:43 PM)
My money is on Keegan buying well and improving us quite a lot if Ashley backs him.
"Yet again it falls to us Mackems to educate the Geordies!! Majority means 'the most', so if there were three choices and two of them got 33 votes, and one of them got 34 votes, the 34 would be the majority, and would be the winner, so, in this case 48 is definately the most, and therefore the MAJORITY. So DomMan, who is the dummy?" - SMB
http://z3.invisionfr...forum/index.php?
Mike Ashley owns NUFC to advertise his Sports Company and make a profit, premiership survival is the only aim, to advertise the Sports Company worldwide, and if he doesn't make a profit he will sell a player instead which is far easier than going for the Champions League money and success on the pitch.
'Our vision for the club is to finish 10th or above every year, year after year. That is our target" - Derek Llambias, 30th March 2011
QUOTE(LeazesMag @ Mar 15 2008, 10:43 PM)
My money is on Keegan buying well and improving us quite a lot if Ashley backs him.
"Yet again it falls to us Mackems to educate the Geordies!! Majority means 'the most', so if there were three choices and two of them got 33 votes, and one of them got 34 votes, the 34 would be the majority, and would be the winner, so, in this case 48 is definately the most, and therefore the MAJORITY. So DomMan, who is the dummy?" - SMB
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 05:06 PM
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What don't I get? I asked why you were choosing to compare those players rather than the quality players we had signed.
I didn't mention trophy signings once.
When will YOU learn to read and comprehend a sentence?
I didn't mention trophy signings once.
When will YOU learn to read and comprehend a sentence?
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 05:15 PM
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CabayeAye, on 27 February 2012 - 04:28 PM, said:
LeazesMag, on 27 February 2012 - 04:24 PM, said:
Gejon, on 27 February 2012 - 04:22 PM, said:
Why are you using Perch and Obertan in your example?
Why not Ba, Tiote and Cisse? They were all brought in under this "set up".
Why not Ba, Tiote and Cisse? They were all brought in under this "set up".
why do people put Owen down as their example of "failure" ?
Ba, Tiote and Cisse will all be sold for cheaper, and so it will go on.
One day, people like you might just wake up.
Unless we pay someone to take Ba, we won't sell him for less than we paid for him.
Correct, the likelihood is we will sell them on for more than we paid for them and then fail to give the proceeds to the manager to invest in the team. Thats why we will never realise our potential under Ashley and thats why teams like Liverpool will continue to win trophies
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 05:50 PM
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Tom, on 27 February 2012 - 02:55 PM, said:
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Carling cup is a tin pot trophy.
I think I said that when Spurs won it - out of pure spite.
I'd fucking love to win it.
i would have a week long comedown from the wreck id get in if we won the tin pot trophy tbf
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 07:54 PM
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Whilst this competition is something I think we can all agree that we would give our right arm to win, this is below Liverpool's standards.
Well, I say standards, this is below their hugely inflated opinion of themselves. Notice how the quotes read as 'going on to bigger things' and 'stepping stone'. The big prize still eludes them and it eats away at them. Burns inside them whilst Man U. continue to pick up title after title.
So whilst they beat their chest for the time being it must dawn on most that whilst this would be success as far as we see it, to them this is a minimal return to what has been invested. Not good enough. Carroll and the rest will still be seen as a big waste of money.
It's small comfort, I know. But when you realise the scousers support a team who's only association with 'dark times' was the Souness era, it helps a little.
Well, I say standards, this is below their hugely inflated opinion of themselves. Notice how the quotes read as 'going on to bigger things' and 'stepping stone'. The big prize still eludes them and it eats away at them. Burns inside them whilst Man U. continue to pick up title after title.
So whilst they beat their chest for the time being it must dawn on most that whilst this would be success as far as we see it, to them this is a minimal return to what has been invested. Not good enough. Carroll and the rest will still be seen as a big waste of money.
It's small comfort, I know. But when you realise the scousers support a team who's only association with 'dark times' was the Souness era, it helps a little.
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