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[Gemmill]

He can't be racist. His favourite grandad was black.

The statement from Liverpool tells you everything you need to know about that lot. Reads like a forum post ffs. "And anyway, when are the FA gonna charge Evra etc."

[Aeris]

The Fish, on 20 December 2011 - 10:06 PM, said:

Aeris, on 20 December 2011 - 10:05 PM, said:

CabayeAye, on 20 December 2011 - 10:02 PM, said:

I think the fairest solution would be quadruple amputation for Suarez and the burning down of Anfield when it is full of Scousers.  The buck toothed cunt/corpse pickpocketing cunts.

I'm sure many black scousers will die aswell in that fire..  :/

Seriously, are you prejudiced against people of other ethnicities? It seems you're alluding to that, but haven't the courage of your convictions to actually say so.

pipe down cunt

[The Fish]

Aeris, on 20 December 2011 - 10:09 PM, said:

The Fish, on 20 December 2011 - 10:01 PM, said:

Aeris, on 20 December 2011 - 09:54 PM, said:

acrossthepond, on 20 December 2011 - 09:38 PM, said:

It means "little black guy"

Patrice is small and he is black, I believe suarez gets a 8 match ban guilty of speaking of the obvious...

I believe he's got an 8 match ban because he's called someone a little black guy and not in a nice way.

If you're going to quote, make sure you retain the context.

negro means the colour black, -ito is the part you add to a name when its kinda the small sized version... I understand this means "little black guy" either it's meant in a nice or bad way.

ahh, so cunt means vagina and withered means affected by age, so if I called your missus a withered cunt, you'd be ok?

As atp says it may mean "little black guy", but it has connotations. and they're not nice connotations.

Are you truly trying to suggest that Suarez (who in every other part of the game is a horrible little shit) was telling Evra that he's a little black guy, in a nise way?

That's frankly evidence that you're either incredibly stupid or just a sympathetic racist.

[Ant]

that's fish told

[The Fish]

Ant, on 20 December 2011 - 10:12 PM, said:

that's fish told

He's brought an Actimel to a gun fight.

[Gemmill]

He's either on the wind up, or a total cock, Fish. Either way, you're wasting your time trying to engage intelligently with him.

[The Fish]

Gemmill, on 20 December 2011 - 10:14 PM, said:

He's either on the wind up, or a total cock, Fish. Either way, you're wasting your time trying to engage intelligently with him.

It's either this or do some work...

I know you of all people could understand my dilemma

[Monroe Transfer]

https://twitter.com/...245988048080897

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@kennethdalglish
Kenneth Dalglish
Very disappointed with today's verdict. This is the time when @luis16suarez needs our full support. Let's not let him walk alone. KD

Cringe-tastic.

[JonTheMag]

A post from a Newcastle-supporting Puerto Rican from the NYC supporters club:

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Suarez Spanish Discrepancy Breakdown.

I read some Suarez reports justifying what he said, and although maybe not a lot of people care, I think there is some ignorance when defending him due to people not understanding latino culture.

Suarez called Evra "Negrito" which is, "Little Black Man" in spanish. Although not used as a direct translation, in Puerto Rico for example and most of latin america, "Negrito" a diminutive of, is normally a term of endearment. Used within the community cause most of the time (at least back home) a lot of us are mixed and the product of.

Now, take that out of context when you are someone like Suarez and apply that same term to a black person who is not tied culturally to you in any way. It's like a tourist visiting and calling someone in my island "negrito". It wouldn't go well. All in All, in a physical altercation and competitive sport, no latino person would use that word without acknowledging it's negative connotation. Sorry LFC fans, He knew better.

Edited by JonTheMag, 20 December 2011 - 10:19 PM.

[Ant]

The Fish, on 20 December 2011 - 10:18 PM, said:

Gemmill, on 20 December 2011 - 10:14 PM, said:

He's either on the wind up, or a total cock, Fish. Either way, you're wasting your time trying to engage intelligently with him.

It's either this or do some work...

I know you of all people could understand my dilemma

If i could work out if he was actually racist i'd hoof him, but what i thought he was implying with the post about anfield etc is Liverpool is filled with them and there wouldn't be many caught in the fire etc.

[2bias]

JonTheMag, on 20 December 2011 - 10:19 PM, said:

A post from a Newcastle-supporting Puerto Rican from the NYC supporters club:

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Suarez Spanish Discrepancy Breakdown.

I read some Suarez reports justifying what he said, and although maybe not a lot of people care, I think there is some ignorance when defending him due to people not understanding latino culture.

Suarez called Evra "Negrito" which is, "Little Black Man" in spanish. Although not used as a direct translation, in Puerto Rico for example and most of latin america, "Negrito" a diminutive of, is normally a term of endearment. Used within the community cause most of the time (at least back home) a lot of us are mixed and the product of.

Now, take that out of context when you are someone like Suarez and apply that same term to a black person who is not tied culturally to you in any way. It's like a tourist visiting and calling someone in my island "negrito". It wouldn't go well. All in All, in a physical altercation and competitive sport, no latino person would use that word without acknowledging it's negative connotation. Sorry LFC fans, He knew better.

He isnt from puerto rico though is he.  He has a history of this.

[CabayeAye]

Gemmill, on 20 December 2011 - 10:14 PM, said:

He's either on the wind up, or a total cock, Fish. Either way, you're wasting your time trying to engage intelligently with him.

I was going to reply earlier on having a go at him and pointing out your first statement, but then I came to the same conclusion as your second statement so didn't bother.

[Ant]

I think it's unfair in the sense that it seems to be down to just Evra's word that the charge has been sanctioned on, which is wrong in any case here/law or otherwise, (made worse since it's evra and he's an untrustworthy weaselly prick n'all), ya can't find anyone guilty of anything purely on a he/said she said basis especially when it's the accuser.

i don't doubt he's said it though, and frankly with proper evidence i'd want more than 8games brought against him, infact bugger the fine and double the ban at least is much more of a penalty to both club/player

[2bias]

Ant, on 20 December 2011 - 10:24 PM, said:

I think it's unfair in the sense that it seems to be down to just Evra's word that the charge has been sanctioned on, which is wrong in any case here/law or otherwise, (made worse since it's evra and he's an untrustworthy weaselly prick n'all)

i don't doubt he's said it though, and frankly with proper evidence i'd want more than 8games brought against him, infact bugger the fine and double the ban at least is much more of a penalty to both club/player

He has a history of this in the dutch league.  He should be banned full stop.

[JonTheMag]

2bias, on 20 December 2011 - 10:22 PM, said:

JonTheMag, on 20 December 2011 - 10:19 PM, said:

A post from a Newcastle-supporting Puerto Rican from the NYC supporters club:

Quote

Suarez Spanish Discrepancy Breakdown.

I read some Suarez reports justifying what he said, and although maybe not a lot of people care, I think there is some ignorance when defending him due to people not understanding latino culture.

Suarez called Evra "Negrito" which is, "Little Black Man" in spanish. Although not used as a direct translation, in Puerto Rico for example and most of latin america, "Negrito" a diminutive of, is normally a term of endearment. Used within the community cause most of the time (at least back home) a lot of us are mixed and the product of.

Now, take that out of context when you are someone like Suarez and apply that same term to a black person who is not tied culturally to you in any way. It's like a tourist visiting and calling someone in my island "negrito". It wouldn't go well. All in All, in a physical altercation and competitive sport, no latino person would use that word without acknowledging it's negative connotation. Sorry LFC fans, He knew better.

He isnt from puerto rico though is he.  He has a history of this.

Of racially abusing players? When?

And the thing I quoted isn't saying Suarez is in the right, its saying the exact opposite. The point is that the word 'negrito' in Latin America is only used endearingly among friends, and would not be said to someone who you're not familiar with.

[The Fish]

Ant, on 20 December 2011 - 10:20 PM, said:

The Fish, on 20 December 2011 - 10:18 PM, said:

Gemmill, on 20 December 2011 - 10:14 PM, said:

He's either on the wind up, or a total cock, Fish. Either way, you're wasting your time trying to engage intelligently with him.

It's either this or do some work...

I know you of all people could understand my dilemma

If i could work out if he was actually racist i'd hoof him, but what i thought he was implying with the post about anfield etc is Liverpool is filled with them and there wouldn't be many caught in the fire etc.

Not asking him to be banned or owt. Just think he has that faint aroma of being a bit brown shirts and bovva boots,

[Monroe Transfer]

I've read far more blatant racism on here that's gone unpunished tbf.

[Ant]

2bias, on 20 December 2011 - 10:25 PM, said:

Ant, on 20 December 2011 - 10:24 PM, said:

I think it's unfair in the sense that it seems to be down to just Evra's word that the charge has been sanctioned on, which is wrong in any case here/law or otherwise, (made worse since it's evra and he's an untrustworthy weaselly prick n'all)

i don't doubt he's said it though, and frankly with proper evidence i'd want more than 8games brought against him, infact bugger the fine and double the ban at least is much more of a penalty to both club/player

He has a history of this in the dutch league.  He should be banned full stop.

Justice doesn't really work like that though, your found and charged case by case, and in this one he's been found guilty by nothing more than the here-say of the accuser which is a joke.
(like i say i'm not arguing the mans not a scumbag or that an 8game ban for something of this nature is a joke, but the manner in which it's happened is).

FA/FIFA and the rest are all horrendous with punishments like, especially when it's anyone high profile/a draw for something, rooney & the euros is another monumental cockup, as will be the Terry case when it comes up.

[Ant]

Monroe Transfer, on 20 December 2011 - 10:29 PM, said:

I've read far more blatant racism on here that's gone unpunished tbf.

I haven't, and if anyone was (feel free to point it out or complain) they'd be hoofed and he hasn't been punished anyway like i said i think it was more "lost in translation" than him being racist, i think he was pointing out that liverpools fileld with them etc.

(if you're talking about leazesmag btw, he is about as close as it gets and he's not really racist in his posts, just daft with his views on immigration and the like)

[Aeris]

Monroe Transfer, on 20 December 2011 - 10:29 PM, said:

I've read far more blatant racism on here that's gone unpunished tbf.

exactly. i've not even said anything racist guys just being thankless because I try to make humour of this situation when did this forum get so god damn political correct all of the sudden. dissapointed.