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[Matt]

Has no-one in HMG thought that once the NHS is destroyed as a public service into profit-making units, its legions of valuable and well-qualified staff will suddenly decide they would like more money? They can always go work for another provider, after all.

Most outsourcing agreements are based on the idea that multiple small-scale operations are better carried out by a larger specialist which can pool greater resources. It usually works for catering and bin collecting. This is the opposite, they are looking to break down the biggest healthcare provider in the world into smaller chunks, each taking a skim along the way.

Labour and the Libs will clearly be against it, it's not universally loved by Tories either and I suspect Cameron is not that hot on it either. He is being pressed by the lobbyists and far-right backbenchers. They will lose the vote on this for sure.

[ChezGiven]

Park Life, on 07 February 2012 - 07:19 PM, said:

We're lashing out £450 a month nearly on healthcare here (on a family package). It's a lot of dough man. I can't see anybody in England putting up with that shit.

I know we discussed this before and you've been fairly balanced about it with regard to finding a balance. I'm not an expert on it. Would be good for the thread if you laid out the best way forward. I'm oldskool and want to keep private finance and especially vultures from America as fukin far away from the NHS as possible.

How much do you and Mrs earn per year though? You're self-employed too so i guess you need to subscribe to one of the sick funds, yes? Normally the employer would cover this but I assume that you're out of pocket expense on healthcare is offset through company tax?

[J69]

Watch Michael Moores sicko to see why this is a bad idea.

Can't afford your medication in America? Tough shit!

[Renton]

J69, on 11 February 2012 - 04:19 PM, said:

Reforms are needed btw, because the NHS costs too much and is bloated in many areas. This isn't the way to do it however. Commissioning services to the lowest bidder is a great way of lowering standards rather than vice versa

NHS costs too much? Really? Compared to what?

Anyway:

http://eoin-clarke.b...y-happened.html

[Park Life]

There is a deep beauty about everything that is wrong with the NHS. It is the most intense beauty one finds anywhere in the world. It is what England is all about.