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[Toonpack]

McFaul, on 17 February 2012 - 11:16 AM, said:

What's David Cameron doing say he wants Rangers to go on and on for?  I don't recall him saying the same things about Darlington, or other prime ministers saying similar things about Leeds United or Leicester in the past.

Preservation of the Union, Rangers are the bastion of unionism, wouldn't do to piss them votes off.

[Toonpack]

toon_don, on 17 February 2012 - 11:18 AM, said:

Toonpack, on 17 February 2012 - 10:48 AM, said:

Read yesterday that problem with the "tax case" is that it is already an existing debt and must be "on the books". HMRC reckoned Rangers (and other clubs) were being dodgy with the way they paid players and have hit them with a bill for the £40-odd million, the case is about Rangers disputing the bill and not HMRC trying to get the right to levy the charge. It's already levied, Rangers have to win their appeal.

The case could take the debt away, but until the case is heard that debt is a "real" one, I believe (if what I saw yesterday is correct).

Rangers are HMRC's high profile "test case", if Rangers lose the appeal, expect some rather thick brown envelopes to be hitting some other club's doormats very soon thereafter.

Ahh fair enough, if that's the case that does change it. Although if Rangers are disputing the figure and manage to get it down to less than 25% of the total debt, then that could all still happen could it not?

Either way, Whyte is a crook.

Oh aye, there'll be a dodge in there somewhere, I think the Whyte being a secured creditor thing was around the original loan, if the Ticketus cash went to Whyte and isn't secured on Ranger's books, could make the percentages game tricky.

HMRC out for blood

[LeazesMag]

Gene_Clark, on 16 February 2012 - 06:24 PM, said:

LeazesMag, on 16 February 2012 - 04:40 PM, said:

Gene_Clark, on 16 February 2012 - 03:07 PM, said:

Disagree with you on both counts; think Her Majesty's XI will have a couple of fallow years before they challenge again in the league for certain. An assured Scottish presence in CL initial group stages has been mentioned, allowing the Tic to gain a massive financial march on their rivals in the short term.

As far as the Halls go; can I just say the unreconstructed Thatcherite megalomaniac was a parasite on the body politic of NUFC. Naming a stand after himself was bad enough, but the money he took out the club was a scandal. I'll kick the cunt's coffin given the chance. Please don't get me started on his family or the scum from Jesmond Park West.

thankfully, we didn't carry on under the McKeags, Seymours etc, or you would have been watching us playing 3rd division in a cow shed with 10,000 supporters like Sheffield Wednesday, and certain administration, instead of playing in the Nou Camp and San Siro in the Champions League.

And half the posters on here, NO and skunkers, would have been spending Saturday afternoons in IKEA, like they did under the McKeags, Seymours etc.

You do with the club what happened from 1992-2007, and you can walk away with as much as you like. That's capitalism and life for you, instead of that failed Marxist stuff.

It was like Faust, I'll agree with you.

As for skunkers, it's the true faith of messageboard land - take from that what you will.....

I know, and stopped buying True Faith years ago. Got a bit tired of reading rubbish.

[Toonpack]

LeazesMag, on 18 February 2012 - 09:10 AM, said:

I know, and stopped buying True Faith years ago. Got a bit tired of reading rubbish.

Luke 4:23

[Monroe Transfer]

Another loss for them today. Celtic could go 20 points clear on Wednesday if they win then and tomorrow.

Motherwell only 6 points behind now, with a game in hand.

[CleeToonFan]

Some people comparing Rangers with Darlington, which is a bit unfair seeing as Rangers haven't been crooked since the late 90's and are a much bigger team

[ewerk]

CleeToonFan, on 18 February 2012 - 06:26 PM, said:

Some people comparing Rangers with Darlington, which is a bit unfair seeing as Rangers haven't been crooked since the late 90's and are a much bigger team

You do realise why they're in administration?

[CleeToonFan]

ewerk, on 18 February 2012 - 08:29 PM, said:

CleeToonFan, on 18 February 2012 - 06:26 PM, said:

Some people comparing Rangers with Darlington, which is a bit unfair seeing as Rangers haven't been crooked since the late 90's and are a much bigger team

You do realise why they're in administration?

Only been accrued in the last few years and is their only time in adminiatration isnt it?

[ewerk]

CleeToonFan, on 18 February 2012 - 09:39 PM, said:

ewerk, on 18 February 2012 - 08:29 PM, said:

CleeToonFan, on 18 February 2012 - 06:26 PM, said:

Some people comparing Rangers with Darlington, which is a bit unfair seeing as Rangers haven't been crooked since the late 90's and are a much bigger team

You do realise why they're in administration?

Only been accrued in the last few years and is their only time in adminiatration isnt it?

The EBT scheme has been in operation since 2000.

[Brock Manson]

Monroe Transfer, on 18 February 2012 - 05:16 PM, said:

Another loss for them today. Celtic could go 20 points clear on Wednesday if they win then and tomorrow.

Motherwell only 6 points behind now, with a game in hand.

The fans were an absolute disgrace from reports I've been reading about the game. Absolute pricks, couldn't be happening to a more deserving fanbase.

[LeazesMag]

Toonpack, on 17 February 2012 - 11:55 AM, said:

toon_don, on 17 February 2012 - 11:18 AM, said:

Toonpack, on 17 February 2012 - 10:48 AM, said:

Read yesterday that problem with the "tax case" is that it is already an existing debt and must be "on the books". HMRC reckoned Rangers (and other clubs) were being dodgy with the way they paid players and have hit them with a bill for the £40-odd million, the case is about Rangers disputing the bill and not HMRC trying to get the right to levy the charge. It's already levied, Rangers have to win their appeal.

The case could take the debt away, but until the case is heard that debt is a "real" one, I believe (if what I saw yesterday is correct).

Rangers are HMRC's high profile "test case", if Rangers lose the appeal, expect some rather thick brown envelopes to be hitting some other club's doormats very soon thereafter.

Ahh fair enough, if that's the case that does change it. Although if Rangers are disputing the figure and manage to get it down to less than 25% of the total debt, then that could all still happen could it not?

Either way, Whyte is a crook.

Oh aye, there'll be a dodge in there somewhere, I think the Whyte being a secured creditor thing was around the original loan, if the Ticketus cash went to Whyte and isn't secured on Ranger's books, could make the percentages game tricky.

HMRC out for blood

do you ever post anything about football ?

[Monroe Transfer]

[LeazesMag]

very funny. So when are Rangers disappearing then ?

[Kevin Carr's Gloves]

We are now closer to Man city than Rangers are to Celtic.

[CabayeAye]

Brock Manson, on 19 February 2012 - 08:32 PM, said:

Monroe Transfer, on 18 February 2012 - 05:16 PM, said:

Another loss for them today. Celtic could go 20 points clear on Wednesday if they win then and tomorrow.

Motherwell only 6 points behind now, with a game in hand.

The fans were an absolute disgrace from reports I've been reading about the game. Absolute pricks, couldn't be happening to a more deserving fanbase.

Celtic?

[Brock Manson]

Rangers mate.

[CabayeAye]

Brock Manson, on 24 February 2012 - 06:13 PM, said:

Rangers mate.

Their fans are no worse than Celtic TBF.

[Brock Manson]

Aye but the Celtic fans weren't the ones at the Rangers game shouting about the ref being a fenian!

[NJS]

Administration is a cunt's trick and its shit that people like LM dismiss it as something that's necessary. Where I used to work we dealt with a company about 5 years ago who supplied a huge system to us but just as it went live they went tits up. A couple of months later the same blokes were back trying to get in the door to sell support and were told to fuck right off. They left lads I know who were working for them with thousands in unpaid invoices.

It's the same with football - execpt as an extra pisser the league has rules that other clubs are paid first so its the local businesses and the tax man who lose out.

Clubs take it on the chin and even if the ten points leads to relegation they're still "better off" in the medium term.

I'd relegate the fuckers two leagues at least and wouldn't care if the club disappeared. If someone wants to form a "Rangers 2012" then should have to do a Wimbledon and start from scratch.


"Football is a loss making industry" says LM - if that has to be the case then stop paying fucking players that much fucking money.

[peasepud]