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[McFaul]

ewerk, on 14 February 2012 - 09:20 AM, said:

McFaul, on 14 February 2012 - 09:13 AM, said:

If Rangers go bust completely they'll reform but the biggest winners could be St Mirren and Partick in the short term.  They'd have to come through the jock league ladder can't see them getting 40,000 against the likes of Alloa.

They won't. Any phoenix club would be allowed directly into the SPL. Given the money that they generate for the league as a whole in sponsorship and TV money then it would be very foolish for the SPL to exclude them.

This is Britain, not the Argentina.  We'll see and don't underestimate the real possibility of Rangers FC 1873 going out of existence.  

As Alex says it's one of those subjects people talk about but no-one cares, unless you're from Glasgow or Ireland.  They are an insignificance in football always have been always will be.

[ewerk]

McFaul, on 14 February 2012 - 09:26 AM, said:

ewerk, on 14 February 2012 - 09:20 AM, said:

McFaul, on 14 February 2012 - 09:13 AM, said:

If Rangers go bust completely they'll reform but the biggest winners could be St Mirren and Partick in the short term.  They'd have to come through the jock league ladder can't see them getting 40,000 against the likes of Alloa.

They won't. Any phoenix club would be allowed directly into the SPL. Given the money that they generate for the league as a whole in sponsorship and TV money then it would be very foolish for the SPL to exclude them.

This is Britain, not the Argentina.  We'll see and don't underestimate the real possibility of Rangers FC 1873 going out of existence.  

As Alex says it's one of those subjects people talk about but no-one cares, unless you're from Glasgow or Ireland.  They are an insignificance in football always have been always will be.

Don't make the mistake of assuming that I give a fuck either way. But the club will not go out of existence and will be playing in the SPL for the next hundred years.

[Toonpack]

ewerk, on 14 February 2012 - 09:20 AM, said:

McFaul, on 14 February 2012 - 09:13 AM, said:

If Rangers go bust completely they'll reform but the biggest winners could be St Mirren and Partick in the short term.  They'd have to come through the jock league ladder can't see them getting 40,000 against the likes of Alloa.

They won't. Any phoenix club would be allowed directly into the SPL. Given the money that they generate for the league as a whole in sponsorship and TV money then it would be very foolish for the SPL to exclude them.

TV revenue up there is only £13Mill a season. I think the majority of the non-old firm Chairmen would gladly see them fuck off tbh.

The difference between the "two cheeks of the same arse" (as one of my Aberdonian pals says) and the rest is ridiculous

[manc-mag]

Ridiculous to think nobody's won it apart from them two since Ferguson left tbh. Wish he'd fucking stayed (for all too obvious reasons).

Anyway fuck the lot of them. Rubbish league, arsehole fans.

[McFaul]

Hearts could've won it if that nobhead hadn't have sacked Burley after winning the first 8 games.

[PaddockLad]

Hearts shouldve won it in 86 too.For them not to win it on the last day they needed to be beaten at Dundee or somewhere and Celtic had to win by 5 goals, they beat St Mirren I think 6-1. Dodgy as fuck. Then Fergies Aberdeen beat them in the cup final the following week. Lots of Maroon scaves came out of closets that year. As bad a bunch of bandwagon jumping glory seekers as I've come across. We got their main man John Robertson in 88 and he was fuckin rubbish. And his wife was getting shagged by mackem waste of space John Kay which is why he left in a hurry. Allegedly.

[Park Life]

Bloody scary place innit.

[McFaul]

PaddockLad, on 14 February 2012 - 09:45 AM, said:

Hearts shouldve won it in 86 too.For them not to win it on the last day they needed to be beaten at Dundee or somewhere and Celtic had to win by 5 goals, they beat St Mirren I think 6-1. Dodgy as fuck. Then Fergies Aberdeen beat them in the cup final the following week. Lots of Maroon scaves came out of closets that year. As bad a bunch of bandwagon jumping glory seekers as I've come across. We got their main man John Robertson in 88 and he was fuckin rubbish. And his wife was getting shagged by mackem waste of space John Kay which is why he left in a hurry. Allegedly.

Nowt to do with the fact he scored 0 in 28 games then.  The mad thing is he scored 72 league goals in 3 seasons, came to the toon and couldn't even get one.

[Toonpack]

alex, on 14 February 2012 - 09:50 AM, said:

I remember the excitement around the signing of Robertson. He'd scored a goal every other game at Hearts and been top-scorer in the league that season. Of course that was back when loads of the best Scottish players were playing for the best sides in England as well. Trust us to sign one that couldn't make the step-up.

He was crocked

Also on the rest of the SPL need them, not at all, they'd fucking love it if both fucked off. Their TV share is fuck all, costs them an arm and a leg to host the old firm, they're average attendances would likely go up over a season. They'd earn a little bit less, but they'd probably thrive otherwise.

[CleeToonFan]

The Scottish league is officially worse than the Israeli league according to the League Coefficients. The potential is there to be much better but when your FA only cares about 2 clubs that's what happens. Rangers won't go out of business

[Toonpack]

alex, on 14 February 2012 - 10:10 AM, said:

Toonpack, on 14 February 2012 - 10:08 AM, said:

alex, on 14 February 2012 - 09:50 AM, said:

I remember the excitement around the signing of Robertson. He'd scored a goal every other game at Hearts and been top-scorer in the league that season. Of course that was back when loads of the best Scottish players were playing for the best sides in England as well. Trust us to sign one that couldn't make the step-up.

He was crocked

Was he? I just seem to remember he was shit. Don't remember a bad injury though.

Had a dodgy stomach muscle problem. (Only strated 7 for us + 5 as sub)

[PaddockLad]

McFaul, on 14 February 2012 - 10:06 AM, said:

PaddockLad, on 14 February 2012 - 09:45 AM, said:

Hearts shouldve won it in 86 too.For them not to win it on the last day they needed to be beaten at Dundee or somewhere and Celtic had to win by 5 goals, they beat St Mirren I think 6-1. Dodgy as fuck. Then Fergies Aberdeen beat them in the cup final the following week. Lots of Maroon scaves came out of closets that year. As bad a bunch of bandwagon jumping glory seekers as I've come across. We got their main man John Robertson in 88 and he was fuckin rubbish. And his wife was getting shagged by mackem waste of space John Kay which is why he left in a hurry. Allegedly.

Nowt to do with the fact he scored 0 in 28 games then. The mad thing is he scored 72 league goals in 3 seasons, came to the toon and couldn't even get one.

Maybe he had other things on his mind?

Am pretty sure thats right about him, I worked with his cousin in Edinburgh. He said Robertson's missus was playing away in Edinburgh, thats why they came down, new start and all all that. He reckoned she should be buried in a Y shaped cofffin.

[Toonpack]

alex, on 14 February 2012 - 10:18 AM, said:

CleeToonFan, on 14 February 2012 - 10:13 AM, said:

The Scottish league is officially worse than the Israeli league according to the League Coefficients. The potential is there to be much better but when your FA only cares about 2 clubs that's what happens. Rangers won't go out of business

When they had good international and club sides there were loads of good Scottish players. I think they suffer like the English do from too many foreign imports (without the money to get the really good ones) and from shit grassroots-level coaching (also like the English).

The foreign import problem is a factor as you say. They've the added issue that any kid with promise is bought up by the old firm for washers, and to an extent any older player that shines at another club. The money is so low in general and the old firm so much richer by comparison, they can just hoover up any potential at very modest outlay, and in some cases never even play them.