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#1
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It's going to be a fucking Tory landslide.


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No avatar at all, I like it.



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:lol:

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk...litics-39629268

 

Jezza wants a "brexit that works for all"

 

Fuck it then, Lib dems it is.



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:lol:

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk...litics-39629268

 

Jezza wants a brexit that works for all.

 

Fuck it then, Lib dems it is.

 

Ugh :( Our last lib dem MP campaigned mostly to the younger vote before delivering one of the most conservative parliamentary voting records I've ever seen, an utter betrayal of the people he targetted for votes. Also, on a personal level, hes a total wanker.

If its him again then theres not a chance I'm voting for him, labour are typically good for the area but if they can't take any power and given the piss poor effort for the referendum I don't think I'll be looking to them either.

Genuinely don't know who I will vote for here, I've usually had at least an idea.



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:lol:

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk...litics-39629268

 

Jezza wants a "brexit that works for all"

 

Fuck it then, Lib dems it is.

Ugh; fuck off.

 

 

 

 

And Corbyn can do one too.


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I'm voting for Kim Jong-un



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Ugh :( Our last lib dem MP campaigned mostly to the younger vote before delivering one of the most conservative parliamentary voting records I've ever seen, an utter betrayal of the people he targetted for votes. Also, on a personal level, hes a total wanker.

If its him again then theres not a chance I'm voting for him, labour are typically good for the area but if they can't take any power and given the piss poor effort for the referendum I don't think I'll be looking to them either.

Genuinely don't know who I will vote for here, I've usually had at least an idea.

 

Pick whichever one is most likely to win between Libs and Labour if how we leave the EU is a priority to you, vote Green if you're just sick of all of them, I'd say.

 

I'm going to vote Labour if they're able to make clear that they're going for a inbetweeny Brexit. If they faff around and avoid saying anything of substance, I'll go Lib Dem.



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:lol:

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk...litics-39629268

 

Jezza wants a "brexit that works for all"

 

Fuck it then, Lib dems it is.

 

That speech is horrific.

 

EDIT - although he's right about the austerity narrative, that is indeed why they lost last time.


Edited by Rayvin, 18 April 2017 - 02:22 PM.


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I've normally had some patience for him and appreciate the bind he's in with the labour voters that went with Brexit.

 

But he's not going to move the debate from Brexit to the NHS or the economy, no matter how hard he tries.  He's trying to win the 2010 or 2015 election but it's 2017.  It's been called because of Brexit, to win a mandate for hard brexit and he HAS to come out in fundamental opposition to the government on that issue to have any hope whatsoever.

 

It's not hard either.  He was limp but he campaigned for remain.  It wouldn't be a turnaround to run full throatedly on taking the opportunity to re-think the mistake that was made.  Throw himself full bodied behind a camaign that promises to withdraw from article 50 and promises to remain, or have a commons vote, or even another referendum now that the implications are clearer and the lies about £350m for the NHS are exposed.



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I've normally had some patience for him and appreciate the bind he's in with the labour voters that went with Brexit.

 

But he's not going to move the debate from Brexit to the NHS or the economy, no matter how hard he tries.  He's trying to win the 2010 or 2015 election but it's 2017.  It's been called because of Brexit, to win a mandate for hard brexit and he HAS to come out in fundamental opposition to the government on that issue to have any hope whatsoever.

 

It's not hard either.  He was limp but he campaigned for remain.  It wouldn't be a turnaround to run full throatedly on taking the opportunity to re-think the mistake that was made.  Throw himself full bodied behind a camaign that promises to withdraw from article 50 and promises to remain, or have a commons vote, or even another referendum now that the implications are clearer and the lies about £350m for the NHS are exposed.

Aye, I don't understand his strategy for accepting the election if he's not doing this.

 

I can't buy that he and his advisors are this thick, so I'm missing something.


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Looks like the Lib dems are lining up for brexit of some sort too.  Promising only that they will be campaigning against "hard" brexit.

 

http://www.libdems.o...017-tim-faarron

 

and the Greens opposing an "extreme" brexit

 

https://www.greenpar...n-bristol-west/

 

Looks like their pollsters aren't letting any of them go against the will of the people, and we'll only get to vote for the least brexitty Brexit.



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Aye, I don't understand his strategy for accepting the election if he's not doing this.

 

I can't buy that he and his advisors are this thick, so I'm missing something.

 

I think the best we can hope for is that they have a good rethink over the next few days. That speech was all soundbites, it sounds as though it's caught them cold.



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Lib dems stance all along has been to let people vote on the terms of a brexit deal. They've always been careful to not explicitly go against the vote

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Looks like the Lib dems are lining up for brexit of some sort too.  Promising only that they will be campaigning against "hard" brexit.

 

http://www.libdems.o...017-tim-faarron

 

and the Greens opposing an "extreme" brexit

 

https://www.greenpar...n-bristol-west/

 

Looks like their pollsters aren't letting any of them go against the will of the people, and we'll only get to vote for the least brexitty Brexit.

 

Which is fine because actually, that's what it'll take to win it. Soft Brexit allows for the will of the people nonsense to be maintained while also ensuring that basically nothing changes - which is what we want. Surely 52% of the country didn't vote for cutting ALL ties with Europe, and if no party is going to go for a reversal, the Remainers will go for the least bad option.



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Soft = limp dick.  No-one will vote for that.  Jezza will have to die his hair black, draw on some eyebrows and start bullying may about HARD remain.



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Fine, they can rebrand it. Call it the 'People's Brexit' or something. They could demonstrate that those who want Hard Brexit are rich landowners in the country who will either benefit or will be fine with it as they're rich enough to cope. Other the fuck out of the hard Brexiters.



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Fine, they can rebrand it. Call it the 'People's Brexit' or something. They could demonstrate that those who want Hard Brexit are rich landowners in the country who will either benefit or will be fine with it as they're rich enough to cope. Other the fuck out of the hard Brexiters.

 

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:D

 

If we got him involved, on stage with Corbyn, Labour would be unstoppable.



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Do you think Labour could credibly come out and say the single market would be their red line in Brexit negotiations? That way they're not 'betraying the will of the people' TM but are veering towards a very soft Brexit.

 

They would leave themselves open to the obvious suggestion that we wouldn't get control on immigration that way, but could it be worth the gamble? I'm not sure, because it looks like they're draining working-class support anyway and this would be a position sure to lose votes in middle England and even the north.

 

Would genuinely be interested to know what people think Labour's Brexit position should be.






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