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Transfers
The OFFICIAL Transfer Rumours Thread 2017-2018

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7 minutes ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said:

 

I was just pointing out the flaw in your reasoning that's all.

Not my reasoning, fuckknuckle.

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Just now, The Fish said:

Not my reasoning, fuckknuckle.

 

So you posted something to emphasize your point, but when someone points out the flaws in it you claim it has nothing to do with you.

 

Yep that's the kind of thing we have all come to expect from you.

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1 minute ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said:

 

So you posted something to emphasize your point, but when someone points out the flaws in it you claim it has nothing to do with you.

 

Yep that's the kind of thing we have all come to expect from you.

 

As an aside the point wasn't "We're going to do well" it was "We're going to sign someone, stop panicking."

 

That that point eluded you, is of no great surprise.

 

Bambaclart.

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47 minutes ago, The Fish said:

 

As an aside the point wasn't "We're going to do well" it was "We're going to sign someone, stop panicking."

 

That that point eluded you, is of no great surprise.

 

Bambaclart.

Does he do the Jamaican version of University Challenge?

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12 minutes ago, Alex said:

Does he do the Jamaican version of University Challenge?

 

Rasclart

 

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3 hours ago, The Fish said:

This is worth remembering;

 

 

Makes me laugh that the Chronicle (Mark Douglas) are going on the same way as that tweet.  The chronicle said Rafa Benitez wanted all his business done by 3rd July.  If we haven't signed anyone and we're 2 weeks from then, either the Chronicle were over-hyping the arbitrary target or Rafa will be somewhat disillusioned not to have been able to get close.  It's right and proper to call one or the other out.

 

I don't give a fuck if we sign all our players in June, July or August as long as we get some bodies in.  But the chronicle hyped an arbitrary target as if the new, professional, proactive approach at NUFC under Benitez was something to be marvelled at then they dress fans down for expressing concern as the target sails past.

 

Club mouthpiece, happy to be back onside and parrot what they're told to encourage season ticket and new kit sales.  No critical thought whatsoever.

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6 hours ago, Happy Face said:

 

Makes me laugh that the Chronicle (Mark Douglas) are going on the same way as that tweet.  The chronicle said Rafa Benitez wanted all his business done by 3rd July.  If we haven't signed anyone and we're 2 weeks from then, either the Chronicle were over-hyping the arbitrary target or Rafa will be somewhat disillusioned not to have been able to get close.  It's right and proper to call one or the other out.

 

I don't give a fuck if we sign all our players in June, July or August as long as we get some bodies in.  But the chronicle hyped an arbitrary target as if the new, professional, proactive approach at NUFC under Benitez was something to be marvelled at then they dress fans down for expressing concern as the target sails past.

 

Club mouthpiece, happy to be back onside and parrot what they're told to encourage season ticket and new kit sales.  No critical thought whatsoever.

We don't know how far along deals are, it's entirely possible that we sign two or three tomorrow for all we know.

 

Far too many pants being pissed on twitter. Chronicle might not be getting the message across in the right way, in the right terms, but the jist is the same; Stop being massive fannies.

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They reckon Lejeune is just about completed and Tammy will make his mind up after the euro's. 

 

Couple of other fandoms linked today, a DM I've never heard of and a Cameroonian striker, Aboubakar. Neither particularly exciting although I like the strikers wiki edit

 

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Just watched the second half of the U 21 England v Slovakia 2 - 1 win.

And again not impressed with Abraham, gave bad passes, kept losing the ball in his attempted dribbles, and doesn't play much of a game off the ball.

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Aboubaker was a wonderkid to try and get a few years back on FM, 5 star potential.  Haven't heard much about him since in real life football, but I did watch a bit of his game with Cameroon recently and he looked very strong and capable. The announcers went on about him while I was watching.

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2 hours ago, Noelie said:

Just watched the second half of the U 21 England v Slovakia 2 - 1 win.

And again not impressed with Abraham, gave bad passes, kept losing the ball in his attempted dribbles, and doesn't play much of a game off the ball.

Doesn't really say much about him though does it? Going solely off their international performances players like Gerard and Lampard wouldn't have been rated highly by many. 

I'm not saying the lad is a world beater but there's no point trying to be this negative about a rumoured loan signing in June. 

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23 minutes ago, Howay said:

Doesn't really say much about him though does it? Going solely off their international performances players like Gerard and Lampard wouldn't have been rated highly by many. 

I'm not saying the lad is a world beater but there's no point trying to be this negative about a rumoured loan signing in June. 

Thing is, it seems to be about the number of goals he scored at Bristol which doesn't really say he would flourish in the Premier League. We had Gayle in double figures for us but there seems to be those who don't think he can perform in the Premier League.

I'm not trying to be negative, I just have doubts about someone with promise he won't fill.

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17 hours ago, StoneColdStephenIreland said:

 

Apparently on his way to Chelsea 

Not that bothered. Caballero is more than capable of pulling a clanger. Is he really much of an improvement on Krul / Elliot / Darlow?

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14 hours ago, LooneyToony said:

^^ Then again it could have been Khouma Babacar.  Or was it Babar the elephant? :huh:

 

It was babacar

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3 hours ago, rogerbarton said:

Not that bothered. Caballero is more than capable of pulling a clanger. Is he really much of an improvement on Krul / Elliot / Darlow?

Yeah my thoughts too! Wasn't really sure why we'd go for him with 2 better keepers already 

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20 hours ago, The Fish said:

We don't know how far along deals are, it's entirely possible that we sign two or three tomorrow for all we know.

 

Far too many pants being pissed on twitter. Chronicle might not be getting the message across in the right way, in the right terms, but the jist is the same; Stop being massive fannies.

 

The vast majority of chatter about Newcastle United transfers every summer can be categorised one of three ways

  • Rumours - Newcastle are (not) chasing player X
  • Complaints - Why haven’t Newcastle signed anyone?
  • Placation - Stop being impatient, signings will come

The rumours are part and parcel of football and have been since Andy McCombie mentioned he liked pan haggerty more than panaculty (one for the great granddads there).  Most of us just dismiss the names that are thrown in the pot and no-one takes any of it seriously.  At least not until someone respectable confirms there’s something more to it, or (more reasonably) until there’s a picture of the player holding up a shirt.

 

Sky Sports and their partner Sky Bet have taken to an art form the generation of rumours that drive a gambling market to extract cash from the wallets of their viewers.  It’s a racket so simple and transparent you’d almost admire the audacity of it, if the lack of regulation wasn’t so dismaying.  This factor has skewed the rumour mill beyond all reason and only full time content creators will bother to keep up with it all and even then, most don’t bother.

 

As for people complaining, maybe I read and talk to a different sort of person in my bubble but I rarely see much of it.  I’m told there are lots of complainers and something must trigger the placators, for me though, most seem to have a sensible view of how the transfer window will play out, with more business logically happening as it draws on.  The artifice clubs create, posturing with demands for a quick deal and insistence that the current offer is final fall away to desperation and conciliation, money starts to circulate between clubs and generates an increase in deals being done as the end of the window approaches.

 

What I see more of is the placation, lots of people taking the role of sage and perceptive soothsayer.  Rafa’s got this.  What you worried about? It’s only June.  While I find all three angles quite boring, I do most identify with the view that we should just wait and see. Conversely though, I find myself increasingly irritated by the placators that condescend to complainers, especially when they themselves initiated the high expectations.

 

For example, in May, The Chronicle told readers that Newcastle wanted to get an early start on transfers:

 

 

They told us this was the “inside track”.  That Rafa Benitez wanted “the majority of his Newcastle United recruits signed up by the start of pre-season (July 3rd).”  He was “in a rush to get things sorted as soon as possible” and this news was widely shared news across social media.

 

With expectations for early business set high, the weeks passed by and Newcastle still hadn’t added any new faces two weeks before the start of pre-season.  However when questions start being asked as to what happened to the early business promised, there was a gear change to recalibrate expectations.

 

 

Rather than being a different sort of pre-season where faces arrive sooner than they have previously, as touted, we are told that this is a transfer window and pre-season just like any other under Mike Ashley.  That “They’ve only signed players in June three times in the Ashley era”.  I mean, come on, what did you expect?

 

I don’t mind the club putting themselves in the best bargaining position early on by expressing a willingness to walk from deals that take too long or even papers reporting that stance as it’s given to them.  But it winds me up more than a needlessly conceded free kick by Jack Colback to see complainers (where they exist) patronised if they naively bought into notions sold to them by the club and media.

 

Where they exist, I don’t believe the majority of complainers are naïve. There’s a haughty disdain for anyone that rightly wonders what happened to the previous proclamations of pro-activity in pre-season.  But they’re only pointing out that we all know the emperor is wearing no clothes.  That the whole transfer window news cycle is one big charade to be ignored.

 

…until you get that picture of a trophy signing holding up a shirt.

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