Renton

Good point, there are fundamentalists on both sides. Bush believes in the rapture so isn't too concerned by little things like the environment or world war 3. However, I'm hopeful that the real powers behind the Bush dynasty aren't quite so insane. Having said that a nuclear Iran would be a disaster and a real cause for concern. But I'm confident that that scenario can be avoided without the use of ground troops, which would be a catastrophe. 145159[/snapback] And the president of Iran is really concerned by little things like the environment or world war 3. Still, I'm sure that the President of Iran might be voted out at the next elections. Or maybe he will show some responsibility if, or when, they do develop nukes 145185[/snapback] Once again you attribute words to me I have never said and refuse to answer yourself. This despite me saying that I personally think the prospect of Iraq is a terrifying one. For once will you answer a straight forward question, one that I have already answered, do you think we (the allies) should invade Iraq. Simple yes or no will suffice. Can you actually answer this, or yet again are you going to prove yourself too thick to read a post? Incidentally, I was reading an interesting commentary in one of my fancy dan papers yesterday which more or less said Bush isn't so much a lame duck president but a dead duck president. Apparently there is no way there will be any military conflict with Iran, either on the ground or by air. The main reason for this is money - the US can't afford to open up a new front. Also, experts reckon to do so the price of a barrel of oil would automatically double over night. Perhaps Leazes knows better and they should have asked him first though. 145237[/snapback] tut tut..a man of your intelligence sinking so low as to hurl insults....I hope luckyluke has noticed who is abusing who here... My reply has been stated. Read it. Shame you read, or say you do, but don't understand what is read unless its in your little book your fancy dan lecturer told you to read. Your bias in your reply is amazing. The first paragraph is about Iran, and the madman running the country, yet you totally miss it out and only make a comment about Bush ? You really think the west ought to appease these people at every turn don't you ? I liked your pompous comment about being "confident it wouldn't resort to sending troops in" BTW ? Is this "confidence" from first hand info, or just a wild hope ? Do you have the same "confidence" that your methods of appeasement, an open immigration door, and allowing the bombers to hide behind their "rights" will prevent the escalation of terrorism and bombing of innocent civilians in the UK ? Ref your comments about oil. Did you read my comment about the 2nd Iraq war being inevitable due to the fact that it wasn't finished the first time, or do you think we should have allowed Saddam to continue flouting the ceasefire agreement and taking the piss out of the whole world and the ceasefire agreement - the simple fact is what they should have done is just gone back in and finished it without needing an excuse, whether that be the growing suspicion of having weapons or the oil. But you would have jibbered on whenever they went in to finish it. Did you agree with the first war BTW ? Or do you think invading another country can be solved by diplomacy ? At what point do you think Iran is going to say to itself "we have enough weapons now" and behave responsibly without turning its head to look at Israel ? 145327[/snapback] Apologies if I have missed it. Do you think we should invade Iraq, yes or no. Please answer one or the other, and we can discuss it. If you have already said what you would do, please link to it. This post is completely irrelevant to the present day situation, I haven't got the time to get side tracked by the confused ramblings of your mind.

Good point, there are fundamentalists on both sides. Bush believes in the rapture so isn't too concerned by little things like the environment or world war 3. However, I'm hopeful that the real powers behind the Bush dynasty aren't quite so insane. Having said that a nuclear Iran would be a disaster and a real cause for concern. But I'm confident that that scenario can be avoided without the use of ground troops, which would be a catastrophe. 145159[/snapback] And the president of Iran is really concerned by little things like the environment or world war 3. Still, I'm sure that the President of Iran might be voted out at the next elections. Or maybe he will show some responsibility if, or when, they do develop nukes 145185[/snapback] Once again you attribute words to me I have never said and refuse to answer yourself. This despite me saying that I personally think the prospect of Iraq is a terrifying one. For once will you answer a straight forward question, one that I have already answered, do you think we (the allies) should invade Iraq. Simple yes or no will suffice. Can you actually answer this, or yet again are you going to prove yourself too thick to read a post? Incidentally, I was reading an interesting commentary in one of my fancy dan papers yesterday which more or less said Bush isn't so much a lame duck president but a dead duck president. Apparently there is no way there will be any military conflict with Iran, either on the ground or by air. The main reason for this is money - the US can't afford to open up a new front. Also, experts reckon to do so the price of a barrel of oil would automatically double over night. Perhaps Leazes knows better and they should have asked him first though.

The Mayfair was the king of venues, sadly missed. What do the hot and heavy brigade do now after Trillians shuts? 145064[/snapback] Isn't the Academy now the late night home of rock? 145066[/snapback] Fridat night at the academy and friday + saturday at legends for rock nights. Or at least it was friday and saturday, i assume its still both nights. As for heavy metal, if you look into it it can be split into about a hundred different sub genres, but people who hate it are invariably referring to thrash/death/black metal and sub genres that have the most indecipherable growling and really fast and/or heavy guitars. Whereas alot of metal is nothing like that, and even within those sub genres there will be massive variety should you listen to enough of it. And i saw it mentioned earlier in the thread about the look, but who gives a toss what people look like? The music is all that matters because the sort of people who judge music on appearance rather than techinical ability etc. are like girls who base their musical taste on which boybands they fancy and that has never been a reason to like or dislike a band! 145107[/snapback] Why have a "look" then if it's not important? Why do people feel the need to conform to a stereotype? Come on man. Leggings, long hair and makeup on a man! It's not right!

Good point, there are fundamentalists on both sides. Bush believes in the rapture so isn't too concerned by little things like the environment or world war 3. However, I'm hopeful that the real powers behind the Bush dynasty aren't quite so insane. Having said that a nuclear Iran would be a disaster and a real cause for concern. But I'm confident that that scenario can be avoided without the use of ground troops, which would be a catastrophe.

The Mayfair was the king of venues, sadly missed. What do the hot and heavy brigade do now after Trillians shuts? 145064[/snapback] Isn't the Academy now the late night home of rock? 145066[/snapback] Lazarus will know.

Not by Geordies though you soft southern puff.

The Mayfair was the king of venues, sadly missed. What do the hot and heavy brigade do now after Trillians shuts?

Alan Robson's "Hot and Heavy" Jesus wept. For those old enough there was a heavy metal nightclub in Whitley Bay "Mingles". The smell of hippy juice still haunts me.

That's who I was listening to in the pub when I came to my stunning conclusion. 145029[/snapback] Bring your daughter to the slaughter. Jesus H Metaller. 145037[/snapback] That's the very song I was thinking of!

Wide of the mark. That's Renton the goth you're thinking of. Alex was in Trillians at the time.

That's who I was listening to in the pub when I came to my stunning conclusion.

Aye well, like I said before, whatever floats your boat. Mind, I would add that anything which encourages fully grown men to wear leggings and makeup is just wrong.

Can someone who likes stuff like Def Leppard please explain to me why? Now I know music is a personal thing, but there are limits to my comprehension. My main problems are: Lyrics. I have never heard a decent heavy metal lyric, ever. If you love the written word and all it subtle complexity then you should hate HM. Music. I love guitars. But I also like melody. Screeching away at guitar with the volume turned to 11 does not constitute music in my ears. The look. Jesus wept - it was naff 20 years ago and hasn't changed a bit since. The cliches. This kind of ties in with my other points. Every thing in heavy metal is a cliche. Even the band names ffs - Slayer, Poison, Iron Maiden etc. Is there ever anything original in that genre, ever? Basically you know you've got problems when a spoof documentary like "This is Spinal Tap" may as well be the real thing. Any ideas anyone?

Jesus wept! That's obsessive. Funnily enough I was just thinking how shit heavy metal is yesterday, but whatever floats your boat I suppose.

I love the indignation that EVEN THE FRENCH have them! Funny too how Leazes makes a fool out of himself with every single post, but can't see it. Mind, the joke is wearing a bit thin.

I've already said I don't have the answers to the problem in Iraq GF. If I did I would hardly be at my job writing on an internet messageboard, would I? I don't think there are any answers now. I suspect that what will happen is the Allies will be forced to move out the country, perhaps leaving a strategice force to protect the oil fields. Then there will be a civil war, with thousands or even hundreds of thousands dying. Ultimately the country will disintegrate and three new countries will be formed, but there will be no stability in our life times. I could be wrong of course.

I'm going. Looking forward to it.

Can someone be me? I need a break from these threads..... If this is another police cock up it'll be interesting to hear what Leazes has to say. Actually, no, it won't.

The SS of the animal world, without a doubt.

Nail on head. 144923[/snapback] Sums up LM exactly. I love his sig too.

I love the fact that he thinks J69's opinion of a footballer is relevant to this discussion. Jesus did cry indeed.

That's actually quite amusing. Still pissed off the Renton bot was a lower number than the Leazes bot in a previous post though!

The one of the cat wearing an SS uniform isn't real - I guess. The first one I think probably is - why wouldn't it be?

Once again you prove you don't read comments made by others - I have already answered Lazarus on a previous post stating that of course I'd shoot someone who was pointing a gun at me or my troops, regardless of age. Once again you are too thick to see this irrelevent to the situation described in this thread though. As for the rest, give ut a rest man, your response was virtually identical to what I predicted. Go and upgrade yourself or something. 144736[/snapback] I think the only thing it proves Renton, is as well as being a left wing, do gooder thick idiot, you are also a cowardly twat for not having the balls to answer Lazarus question. End of. Credibility shot to shreds. What is the point of "debating" with people that can't answer questions ? You aren't up for anything are you ? You go on about "debating", as if you are some sort of intellectual [haha] then can't do it. What a fuckin joke you are man. Wierd...but isn't it you that fell out with HTL too, because you didn't answer his questions and made accusations about him instead ? Wierd too, again, but your response is exactly what I expect from thick do gooder wankers. No balls, no debate, no anything, clueless. 144762[/snapback] Leazes, I used to think you were just a bit thick, now I realise you are a complete moron. Read my post numbered 189 on this thread. Now read the bit in bold on this very post! You really are a an absolute cretin, and every single person here knows it. The only person that doesn't know you are thick is you, because ironically you are too thick to see it. I "fell out" with HTL on several occasions, for various reasons. As you no doubt know, the straw that broke the Camel's back with him is when he likened me to paedophile, for no good reason. Most people, even on the internet, would think that is an insult too far. So in summary, will you just fuck off and at least learn how to read before you spout your shit? No? Then just fuck off full stop then. 144803[/snapback] Renton, I used to think you were just a thick naive do gooder, now I think you are a wanker as well. As I said, it's no problem to me if a do gooder doesn't agree with me, however many there are, when I know I'm right ... at the end of the day, you harp on about "debating" but you only want to "debate" with people who agree with you...fuck knows what you would do if your own safety was threatened, you would shit yourself, that is why you won't answer Laz's question directly. I can just imagine you now, thinking to yourself "he can't disagree with me, I'm intelligent, why doesn't he understand .. boo fuckin hoo". You still don't answer Lazarus post. Arseholes like you ... that think you know everything, but know fuck all. You waffle on about Iraq, asylum seekers, "rights"...you are clueless. Totally clueless. I think you should stick your face back into your Guardian after wiping your arse with it first. Wierd - again - but I think you should fuck off and go and learn about the real world before spouting your fancy dan theories about it, and go and debate with some other deluded twat like yourself, that thinks terrorists are lovely little boys who are going to give up bombing this country and killing people, simply because someone like you tells them they are bad little boys. Or let the people trying to find these cunts get on with it rather than screaming about their "rights" - THAT is the actions of a fucking moron. 144807[/snapback] You really are a complete arsehole. I haver answered Laz's question THREE times now (all directly). What more do you fucking want you moron? I'm sorry to all the other users of toontastic, but how can you reason with a man like this? I have taken the liberty of highlighting a few of your cliches btw, just in case anyone was unaware of what a complete stereotype you are. Jesus wept just doesn't quite say it enough, does it. You'll be a character on Little Britain before you know it.