Bottled Dog

Ah, I can't fain surprise, as you say, of course he fucking is.

Ah, Foxcroft is my MP too. Still a toss up between her and going Green or LD if I can get my head around that SwapMyVote thing. Not sure if they were there this time, but couldn't face another hustings after People before Profit did my head in last time.

Finally, a sensible voice in this thread.

Didn't see a single Guy Fawkes mask on the last one thankfully, just a chilled atmosphere and some surprisingly canny pubs near Parliament Square. You get the a few nutters pushing slightly odd agendas, but generally just fairly amiable old folk. Was on the same Lewisham rally with Meenzer or at least one of them, and when it's a local thing I think you get a lot more prominent hijackers imho (People Before Profit, Socialist Worker and Antifa in the case of Deptford/Lewisham).

You knew what you were voting for. If you couldn't see the fuck on voting for turmoil would cause. Fuck off.

Sadly. Never gets old.

Fuck off.

Clearly not considering there was 27 million pounds worth of strikers up front.

We should make a policy of it, first Glenn and now Sam. In fact, every season just appoint the current best English manager and one day we might even get a roll over.

I haven't moaned once about our injury list. I haven't moaned once about our injury list. I haven't moaned once about our injury list. I haven't moaned once about our injury list. I haven't moaned once about our injury list. I haven't moaned once about our injury list. I haven't moaned once about our injury list. I haven't moaned once about our injury list. I haven't moaned once about our injury list. I haven't moaned once about our injury list. I haven't moaned once about our injury list. I haven't moaned once about our injury list. I haven't moaned once.... Ad infinitum.

the only banning needing doing round here is for internet fucking stalking Vic, you average 30 posts a day. The chances of me replying to one, given that I'm fairly active on this board, are pretty high. No one is stalking you. No one wants to know anything more about you than we already do; frankly, if I was to stalk anyone, they'd be a lot more interesting than you. Or have nice tits. Are you saying Vics not got nice tits like?

I'll take that challenge

Have Faith. It will all come good. I promise!

How's that like? If they sell him for £4m, Arsenal get £1m, they'll get £3m. If they sell him for £6m, Arsenal get £1.5m, they'll get £4.5m.

And a small minority of Gillingham and Watford supporters liked him as well, in the same manner as yourself I presume. Nice guy doing his best. Some knackers still respect Souness and felt that he may yet have come good had fates not conspired against him. The still both failed and the idea that people should forget about their records is just bollocks. Roeder and his sponsor have a long long way to go before persuading many of us that they deserve much faith, and sadly games like last wednesday don't do a lot to help matters.

A dreadful manager doing a good job. A dreadful manager doing a good job as a manager? You what?

Sauce? Poor lovejoy missed a trick dont think i did, i gave the source in the other post! Roeder says humiliation will not alter plans By Simon Rushworth Published: 19 January 2007 As Newcastle United supporters continue to debate the significance of Wednesday night's 5-1 defeat at the hands of Birmingham City, the search is on for the unfortunate centenarian who can clearly recall each of the Magpies' most humiliating FA Cup capitulations at St James' Park. Only then can the true scale of a shocking result be measured. In 1914, a 5-0 third-round home defeat at the hands of Sheffield United caused upset and consternation in equal measure. Ten thousand fewer fans attended Newcastle's next home game and four weeks passed before the club celebrated a victory. Fast forward 93 years and it would appear the Magpies stand on the cusp of a fresh crisis. Wednesday's 26,099 gate will be boosted by 25,000 when West Ham United visit St James' Park tomorrow but season ticket sales hide the mood of dissatisfaction. The Newcastle manager, Glenn Roeder, cannot allow history to repeat itself after overseeing the club's most crushing Cup defeat of the modern era. After encouraging Premiership results against Manchester United and Tottenham Hostpur earlier this month, the optimists would suggest defeat against Birmingham was a blip. The realists insist injury-ravaged Newcastle, reliant on inexperienced youth, were fortunate to escape embarrassing drubbings in each of those League fixtures and that the City debacle was a disaster waiting to happen. "Wednesday wasn't a game too far for the young players but it was a hell of a learning curve," said Roeder, who stands accused of indecision in the transfer market. "But it doesn't change our transfer plans. To let one lack of a performance change what my plans are over the next two weeks would be stupid. "What it does, it reinforces the importance of being able to fulfil what my plans are over the next two weeks and we have four or five senior players back over that period. By the time the window shuts I am expecting to have four or five available and that will make a big difference." Roeder is mooted to have a £10m transfer budget at his disposal with defenders his obvious priority. Manchester United's Gabriel Heinze and Birmingham's Matthew Upson are the higher profile targets being discussed at the top level but Newcastle are hardly an attractive prospect for potential employees. The Uefa Cup represents the club's only hope of success in 2007 - without it the Magpies' season would, effectively, be over. After Wednesday night many Newcastle supporters believe it already is. http://sport.independent.co.uk/football/pr...icle2165408.ece - 'bout sums things up.

15th with no hope of Europe and a big hole to the tune of 50m in the transfer kitty. Since then a respectable 7th place finish, successful European qualification via the back door, successful (unbeaten) qualification from the UEFA Cup group of death stage, currently a few wins off the top 6 and all with a patched up squad of youngsters, a foreign midget striker new to the league, 33 year-old Sibbers, a few stalwarts, a full-team out injured, demanding fans, no Owen, no Shearer and no first choice assistant. All in all I'd say he's done a damn fine job in the circumstances. 28 wins from 55 games gives him the highest win ratio of any Toon manager. It may not seem like we've been winning matches, but we have. Pointless including cup games, especially intertoto and UEFA ones. If you look at his record in the league since he's actually been manager it's W8, D5, L10. Is that impressive considering he's spent more than most his rivals? And again what is the point of the comparison with Souness. I may be much better looking than Dean Gaffney, but it doesn't make me Brad Pitt. Absolutely.

Kind of aye, in a round about way. Basically 9 times out of 10 the best Birmingham would escape SJP with would be a narrow win or a draw, we'd beat them more often than not and 90% of our team most certainly wouldn't all have shockers all at the same time in one match. Hence freak result. BTW I think that was our worst ever home FA Cup defeat and only the first time we've lost at home in the FA Cup for 10 or so years which proves my point, these defeats are rare, although for our club expected as we are famous for going from one extreme to another. It now wouldn't surprise me if the same team tonked West Ham (I doubt it will happen but if it does, I won't be surprised, that's us lot all over). So, a result like this is rare and freakish but all that does is add to the shock, disgust and embaressment for those who were around to witness it. It is rare but the players and the manager let it happen, and deserve everything they get. /and let's not forget that, putting the scoreline aside, the current regime has now notched up more than just the one indefensible result. Maybe such a defeat was not quite as unpridictable as you lead us to believe.

Megre resources or not, these 'freak' results under Roeder are starting to pile up. Nor are they being balanced by many particularly outstanding and deserved results either tbh.

If that's medieval 2 then I warn you, it's worse than crack. /despite the sometimes iffy A.I.

Huh, I've had a few but that makes sod all sense. Surely half the reason nobody would join us is down to our performances under the manager and to a degree, his past record pointing to future good times. /all behind the most important factor obviously, the cash we throw at them. The reason nobody would join us is down to a chairman who sacks a world renowned manmager for getting us within whiskers of champions league and brings in clown who's getting his current team relegated. Why would any manager worth their salt want to put themselves in that position? To be fair, I think if we throw our cash at a manager in much the same way we seem to splash it on sub par players, I think you might be surprised who would take the job despite the obvious issues. Pleasently surprised. So why did we end up with Souness......then Roeder? EDIT: Obviously Souness came solely for the cash. It is only an opinion, but It seems Shepherd feels that given good enough players that the manager is not as important as some of us feel (just like our defence). Souness and Roeder simply continued a hiring strategy based on little other than getting someone in who might plug the faults of the previous regime. That's by the by though. All I meant was that the current problems at the club can be smoothed over, and that money for many good managers out there would be a great persuader. /even more than being 'the one to wake the sleeping giant'. Sorry but that's bollocks tbh. Even lifelong Toon supporter and Geordie Legend Alan Shearer wouldn't take the job (even though he lacks pedigree) for all the money in the kitty. He knows Shepherd is a cock knocker as does everyone else. No probs. We clearly agree on one thing then. The time is up for Shepherd.

Huh, I've had a few but that makes sod all sense. Surely half the reason nobody would join us is down to our performances under the manager and to a degree, his past record pointing to future good times. /all behind the most important factor obviously, the cash we throw at them. The reason nobody would join us is down to a chairman who sacks a world renowned manmager for getting us within whiskers of champions league and brings in clown who's getting his current team relegated. Why would any manager worth their salt want to put themselves in that position? To be fair, I think if we throw our cash at a manager in much the same way we seem to splash it on sub par players, I think you might be surprised who would take the job despite the obvious issues. Pleasently surprised. So why did we end up with Souness......then Roeder? EDIT: Obviously Souness came solely for the cash. It is only an opinion, but It seems Shepherd feels that given good enough players that the manager is not as important as some of us feel (just like our defence). Souness and Roeder simply continued a hiring strategy based on little other than getting someone in who might plug the faults of the previous regime. That's by the by though. All I meant was that the current problems at the club can be smoothed over, and that money for many good managers out there would be a great persuader. /even more than being 'the one to wake the sleeping giant'.

Huh, I've had a few but that makes sod all sense. Surely half the reason nobody would join us is down to our performances under the manager and to a degree, his past record pointing to future good times. /all behind the most important factor obviously, the cash we throw at them. The reason nobody would join us is down to a chairman who sacks a world renowned manmager for getting us within whiskers of champions league and brings in clown who's getting his current team relegated. Why would any manager worth their salt want to put themselves in that position? To be fair, I think if we throw our cash at a manager in much the same way we seem to splash it on sub par players, I think you might be surprised who would take the job despite the obvious issues. Pleasently surprised.