Rafa

RAWK and YNWA.tv are the two Liverpool forums that are full of match going fans. I'm sure we have more gloryhunting fans now, such is life. But is that the fault of regular match goers, and life long fans? Don't make up shit here cos you don't like what you read elsewhere. RAWK has many many long time match goers on the forums. And if you won the CL - you'd fecin go on about it too for a long time

thanks lads again. Sadly no news on Steve. Keep this website in your thoughts, and pass the link around to everyone you know, you never know, soneone may just have been, or are going to Malia: http://www.findstevencook.co.uk/

One of them's Rafa Benitez, so he'd be quite easy to find

here is a website set up: http://www.findstevencook.co.uk/ please can you spread the link, even if it's just to friends via an email, and then they pass it on, you never know, it may alert someone! Thanks again!

as often happens in these things, theres a lot of confusion regards stories. I've heard later that at the end of the evening he actually left the people he was with to go and get some food. That was the last time he was seen. I pressume that people who where out that night have been tracked down. Just dunno what's happened to him No sign of him anywhere. All his stuff remained untouched in his hotel room, no money taken from his bank account. Just no sign.

thanks lads. Still no word on him. He didn't make the return flight home. His 2 brothers are out there. There was a search with about 100 volunteers and police today, but no sign of him. I hope thats a good sign. They are out in the town tonight talking to people to see if they can jog their memories. And I think the police are going to try and do some sort of reconstruction tomorrow, at the locations, showing similar clothes to what he had on that night. Anyway, fingers crossed still, but it's been a week now. Terrible time for his family.

Steven Cook went on holiday there last Wednesday, and hasn't been seen since the first night of the holiday. I know Steve through the Liverpool website we are both regulars on, and often see him at the matches. IF you have just come back from Crete please think back as to whether you saw Steve, and if you are about to go. Please keep an eye out. Rather than waffle on, here is an article from that site: A regular poster on ynwa.tv – Steve Cook (stevieboy2k) - has been reported missing by friends and family whilst on holiday in Malia, Crete. He has not been seen or heard of since the first day of his holiday on 1st September. His group of friends became friendly with another bunch of holidaymakers and it is believe that Steve went off with this new group. His friends on holiday have kept a vigil at his room in the hope that he will return as it is believed that he has no money and no change of clothes. It is also believed that he does not have his mobile phone with him either. Posters have been put up around the resort asking for any information and his family have since flown out in the hope of finding him. Tentative sightings and leads have so far been unsuccessful. So if you know anyone in the resort of Malia or those adjacent could you please ask them to have a look out for Steve. He is 20 years old, has dark hair and is around 5ft 8 in height. If anyone has any information would you please contact us via enquiries@ynwa.tv and we will inform his family. Thanks. Pic of him on here: http://www.ynwa.tv/news/index.php?newsid=1981

My Magic 8 Ball says he'll get 23 goals

told yers

Rafa's in a bit of a no-win situation though regards this to be honest with yer. IF he doesn't sign Owen,and we struggle to score goals, yes there will be the usuall bullshit by the Liverpool Internet Brigade of 'fans' going on with themselves blaming him for not bringing Owen home. BUT if he does sign him, but has to sell Cisse to get the dosh, these very same fans will be whinging cos he's been so ruthless and sold their favourite Cisse. So he can't win either way But as Rafa Benitez himself said 'I'm not here to be popular, I'm here to win trophies' and he's not had a bad start regards that, with the European Cup and Super Cup.

yeah, be nice to have the dosh to make some serious moves, but there is the nice warm glow of the European Cup that dulls my annoyance

yup, thats £18 mill in fees right there Plus all where on 5 year deals, and silly wages. And no hope of even recouping half of that. Plus players Patric Luzi - a reserve goalie (and a shit one), on a stupid amount of money and a long deal. Plus the fee for Cisse was over the top as well. And long contracts given for crocks like Kirkland even AFTER he'd been out injured. Theres just loads of crap thats gone on. And a £10 mill payout for Houllier and his staff. Madness.

there some resentement - but it's really a minority! It's wierd, I'd have thought it would have been worse, but it's just not an issue to most of us! I think after we won the European Cup, it kinda ended any hurt or resentment, cos he just ended up looking a bit silly for leaving.

That's something that mystefies many, and angers a lot of fans, cos after all that happened last year, and winning the European Cup, we'd like to think the board could have got a few more millions for the manager to spend. Rather than make him have to scrounge and sell to get more players in. Our net spending this summer so far has been just £4.5 mill There is a thought though that Liverpool are a bit strapped for cash, cos of such stupid deals that where done in Houllier's last 2 years here - stupid fees, and wages and long contracts to inferior players. Also the club had to pay off him and his staff millions and millions. Seems that maybe Benitez is the one having to scrimp and save cos of the bad deals of a former manager and the incompetence of the board allowing him to sign players on long and very expensive contracts. Thats part of it, I'm sure there are other reasons, isn't there always!

thats a tricky one! VERY much split opinions. Cisse is very popular with many after all he's been through, and there is uproar at the thought he would be sold so soon to fund a deal. There really is some serious arguing going on, and some anger as well, cos Cisse is popular with many Liverpool fans. BUT if it had happened (I feel its well to late to happen now), people would have got over it I'm sure, cos after all Owen is 10 times the player Cisse is.

And this is the thing, in a world cup year, he won't go back to Madrid. Also, there is the issue that his missus is desperate to be back over here full time. She won't want to go back, and she's pregnant and in a few months can't be travelling back and forth anyway! He won't sit his arse on the bench at Madrid till January I doubt very much. Cos that is risky, as who knows what will happen in January.

as of today, the concensus is grim - we don't feel hopeful at all, knowing that the money is the problem, i.e. we dont' have enough of it. And with just a couple days to go, no way can I see us suddenly making a few extra mill in sales!

Lastest from Liverpool is that there is no latest Liverpool want him on loan, as we can't afford the fee for him. He wants to come here, but Real won't allow him to go on loan as everyone knows! So it's a stalemate basically. So as of now, a move to Newcastle still appears the likely scenario. (ohhhh I like my little Liverpool logo member thing - that's )

Hi Barney! Yeah, that is my only issue with Cisse - that it'd be sad if he left without getting one full season here. I have a lot of reservations about him as a player, he has much to do to convince me he is anywhere near as good as I expect a player of his cost to be. But I'd love him to get this season to show what he can do! Our forum is going mad, there is so much going on, and the Owen V Cisse thing is heading into Orbit. Cisse is very popular, cos of how he came back from his injury, and cos he's just such a character. So it's all going off at the moment on Liverpool forums. Much grumblings about signings and the like (sound familiar?!!). We're a right spoilt lot, won 2 cups in the last few months, one of them the big one, and so many are grumbling like mad. It's all doing my head in to be honest. And I'll be glad when the transfer window is shut.

ta MrBass! By the way, from what I heard, it isn't a wages issue with Liverpool and Owen, apparently him taking a pay cut here wasn't an issue, and he'd do that. It's just the actual millions that it'd involve spending to pay the fee for him. As you say though, just got to wait and see. Time is running out for all clubs to make their deals, but there is still a bit of time left. Not much though!

no, I mentioned it, cos it was my first post here. If i'd have been reading a post by a first time poster, stating such things, my 'bullshiter' detector would have been on high alert I got it from about the only poster on a Liverpool forum I go on that I know to have a genuine contact within Liverpool FC. Basically, it will come down to the wire. It's about the next 48 hours. And Liverpool need to aquire some finances. Or need to arrange something pretty damn drastic with Real Madrid, and having seen how them buggers work with transfers over the last 12 months, don't know if that'll happen! (This paragraph by the way, is my own speculation - ie needing to arrange something with Real Madrid, this is not part of the info this guy came out with.) Also, the guy who posted this, said the fee he'd heard that Newcastle had offered is 15.5 million, and the same wages as he's on at Real Madrid.

There's a pretty good chance you lads will be signing Michael Owen on Tuesday. So you won't need to think about Djibs Apparently.... Liverpool cannot sign Owen unless they can shift Cisse first. It's as simple as that. It comes down to finances. We don't have the money to afford the fee for Owen without selling. Any money we have from the Baros sale, is needed for a more needed player. Liverpool have asked Owen to wait till January if they can't sort it by Monday. But he won't do that, so it's now or never. And if it doesn't happen by Monday, he's off to the Toon. And I can't see us managing to sell by Monday. and I am not bullchitting - I posted a lot on the newcastle-online forum, sure some could vouch for me there that I aint a shitstirrer!!