Sima 0 Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Our best manager of the last 50 years Happy Birthday Apart from Keegan. Robson would have won the league with Keegan's resources at his disposal tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Our best manager of the last 50 years Happy Birthday Apart from Keegan. Robson would have won the league with Keegan's resources at his disposal tbh. His transfer dealings at Newcastle suggest otherwise tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6302 Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Our best manager of the last 50 years Happy Birthday Apart from Keegan. Robson would have won the league with Keegan's resources at his disposal tbh. Keegan may have got better out of the players who Robson was too soft with tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Robson might have won the league if he'd took over when KK left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19806 Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Our best manager of the last 50 years Happy Birthday Apart from Keegan. Robson would have won the league with Keegan's resources at his disposal tbh. His transfer dealings at Newcastle suggest otherwise tbh. would have walked the title with eleven carl corts tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCUM 1 Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Our best manager of the last 50 years Happy Birthday Apart from Keegan. Robson would have won the league with Keegan's resources at his disposal tbh. In fairness to Keegan's transfer dealings though, Sima, I don't recall him always having massive resources. I might be wrong, Newcastle isn't my club so you will know more than me.....but my recollection is that Keegan had to 'earn' his bigger resources by dint of improving the clubs finances. I don't recall him having massive resources to get out of the first division and I thought be bought shrewdly to do that. Likewise I don't recall him having vast resources when he first started in the prem. Of course once he'd established a side challenging for the title he had access to much bigger resources to sign the Shearer's etc. Might just be my memory playing tricks though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Our best manager of the last 50 years Happy Birthday Apart from Keegan. Robson would have won the league with Keegan's resources at his disposal tbh. In fairness to Keegan's transfer dealings though, Sima, I don't recall him always having massive resources. I might be wrong, Newcastle isn't my club so you will know more than me.....but my recollection is that Keegan had to 'earn' his bigger resources by dint of improving the clubs finances. I don't recall him having massive resources to get out of the first division and I thought be bought shrewdly to do that. Likewise I don't recall him having vast resources when he first started in the prem. Of course once he'd established a side challenging for the title he had access to much bigger resources to sign the Shearer's etc. Might just be my memory playing tricks though Nah, he had a shitload to spend to take us up. Didn't have much to start with when he took over (Kilcline, Sheedy, McDonough ) but once we'd survived relegation he basically had an open chequebook (Venison, Bracewell, Beresford, Lee) Just before the transfer deadline he spent £3m more on Cole, Robinson and Sellars There was always money there for him, with inflation in transfer fees etc, you could calculate that he had twice as much (maybe even more) to spend than Robson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17744 Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Our best manager of the last 50 years Happy Birthday Apart from Keegan. Robson would have won the league with Keegan's resources at his disposal tbh. In fairness to Keegan's transfer dealings though, Sima, I don't recall him always having massive resources. I might be wrong, Newcastle isn't my club so you will know more than me.....but my recollection is that Keegan had to 'earn' his bigger resources by dint of improving the clubs finances. I don't recall him having massive resources to get out of the first division and I thought be bought shrewdly to do that. Likewise I don't recall him having vast resources when he first started in the prem. Of course once he'd established a side challenging for the title he had access to much bigger resources to sign the Shearer's etc. Might just be my memory playing tricks though Nah, he had a shitload to spend to take us up. Didn't have much to start with when he took over (Kilcline, Sheedy, McDonough ) but once we'd survived relegation he basically had an open chequebook (Venison, Bracewell, Beresford, Lee) Just before the transfer deadline he spent £3m more on Cole, Robinson and Sellars There was always money there for him, with inflation in transfer fees etc, you could calculate that he had twice as much (maybe even more) to spend than Robson. Look at those players in the value for money stakes. Absolute bargains in the main. Look at the football they played. I know football's a game of opinions but howay man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Where have I said they weren't good value? Just pointing out that Keegan had carte blanche in the transfer market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 KK was probably the first manager, in this country anyway, to have an open chequebook tbf. Nowt against Robson however, I'm still gutted at the way he was treated - by players and the board alike (worst of all to the detriment of the club). But he had plenty money too and didn't spend it that wisely overall imo. There's no way you could say one way or the other whether Robson would have won the league if things had been differnt but, all-in-all, I reckon KK was the better Toon manager. Both true legends though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad-on-the-cocks 0 Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Bobby Robson was quality, but you go and shit on him, but give it a few years and he will have a statue you two faced fuckers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 KK was probably the first manager, in this country anyway, to have an open chequebook tbf. Nowt against Robson however, I'm still gutted at the way he was treated - by players and the board alike (worst of all to the detriment of the club). But he had plenty money too and didn't spend it that wisely overall imo. There's no way you could say one way or the other whether Robson would have won the league if things had been differnt but, all-in-all, I reckon KK was the better Toon manager. Both true legends though. Dalglish at Blackburn tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13836 Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Ferguson Said that if Bellamy didnt get injured then we would have won the league.. Dunno Like.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 (edited) KK was probably the first manager, in this country anyway, to have an open chequebook tbf. Nowt against Robson however, I'm still gutted at the way he was treated - by players and the board alike (worst of all to the detriment of the club). But he had plenty money too and didn't spend it that wisely overall imo. There's no way you could say one way or the other whether Robson would have won the league if things had been differnt but, all-in-all, I reckon KK was the better Toon manager. Both true legends though. Dalglish at Blackburn tbh The one bit of the post you thought you could pull me up on. Nice one. Edited February 19, 2007 by alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17744 Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 KK was probably the first manager, in this country anyway, to have an open chequebook tbf. Nowt against Robson however, I'm still gutted at the way he was treated - by players and the board alike (worst of all to the detriment of the club). But he had plenty money too and didn't spend it that wisely overall imo. There's no way you could say one way or the other whether Robson would have won the league if things had been differnt but, all-in-all, I reckon KK was the better Toon manager. Both true legends though. Dalglish at Blackburn tbh Good point. Be interesting to know how much money Keegan spent overall, how much money he made from sales, how his spending related to our turnover, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 KK was probably the first manager, in this country anyway, to have an open chequebook tbf. Nowt against Robson however, I'm still gutted at the way he was treated - by players and the board alike (worst of all to the detriment of the club). But he had plenty money too and didn't spend it that wisely overall imo. There's no way you could say one way or the other whether Robson would have won the league if things had been differnt but, all-in-all, I reckon KK was the better Toon manager. Both true legends though. Dalglish at Blackburn tbh The one bit of the post you thought you could pull me up on. Nice one. haha, here we go again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 (edited) KK was probably the first manager, in this country anyway, to have an open chequebook tbf. Nowt against Robson however, I'm still gutted at the way he was treated - by players and the board alike (worst of all to the detriment of the club). But he had plenty money too and didn't spend it that wisely overall imo. There's no way you could say one way or the other whether Robson would have won the league if things had been differnt but, all-in-all, I reckon KK was the better Toon manager. Both true legends though. Dalglish at Blackburn tbh The one bit of the post you thought you could pull me up on. Nice one. haha, here we go again. Eh? Anyway, I disagreed with your intial premise and as for Robson winning the league if he had KK's resources - I doubt it. Robson's signings, were on the whole, canny shit. So I'm struggling to see how he'd have won the league with more money. The more money he spent (with one or two exceptions) the worse his signings got. Edited February 19, 2007 by alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Horrible slur on the name of Titus Bramble tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19806 Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 KK was probably the first manager, in this country anyway, to have an open chequebook tbf. Nowt against Robson however, I'm still gutted at the way he was treated - by players and the board alike (worst of all to the detriment of the club). But he had plenty money too and didn't spend it that wisely overall imo. There's no way you could say one way or the other whether Robson would have won the league if things had been differnt but, all-in-all, I reckon KK was the better Toon manager. Both true legends though. Dalglish at Blackburn tbh The one bit of the post you thought you could pull me up on. Nice one. haha, here we go again. Eh? Anyway, I disagreed with your intial premise and as for Robson winning the league if he had KK's resources - I doubt it. Robson's signings, were on the whole, canny shit. So I'm struggling to see how he'd have won the league with more money. The more money he spent (with one or two exceptions) the worse his signings got. what you saying? viana was bargain of the century Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Horrible slur on the name of Titus Bramble tbh Bigging him up tttt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Robson brought more to the club than good football, he brought a bit of class to the proceedings. Even his verbal tics were endearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17744 Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Robson brought more to the club than good football, he brought a bit of class to the proceedings. Even his verbal tics were endearing. Ditto Keegan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Robson brought more to the club than good football, he brought a bit of class to the proceedings. Even his verbal tics were endearing. Ditto Keegan. Am not getting drawn into the better manager debate but Robson was 'classier' than Keegan imo. In terms of standing in the game as a manager and handling himself in the media Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Robson brought more to the club than good football, he brought a bit of class to the proceedings. Even his verbal tics were endearing. Ditto Keegan. Am not getting drawn into the better manager debate but Robson was 'classier' than Keegan imo. In terms of standing in the game as a manager and handling himself in the media Oh, go on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17744 Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Robson brought more to the club than good football, he brought a bit of class to the proceedings. Even his verbal tics were endearing. Ditto Keegan. Am not getting drawn into the better manager debate but Robson was 'classier' than Keegan imo. In terms of standing in the game as a manager and handling himself in the media I met Keegan once at his prime (as manager). He was inspirational. Never met Robson but he strikes me as being like a friendly Grandad. In a way though they are both highly lovable losers ultimately. Robson never quite achieved football's greatest prizes either as a player or manager. Keegan suceeded as a player but was pipped at the post as a manager which seemed to destroy him. It's a shame for both of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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