Barney 0 Posted March 9, 2007 Author Share Posted March 9, 2007 (edited) As great as it would be to offer a player a rolling contract, there is no way that a Premier League footballer at the peak of physical fitness would accept a contract like that. Imagine he was injured for 3 months with no pay? If we were to offer him something like that, Everton, Blackburn or Bolton would pick him up, play to his strenghts and have a good defender on their books. Remind me of his strengths and why we aren't playing to them. Bramble deserves a 3 year contract for £15000 a week as thats the bracket he falls into, no more I think Bramble is a strong fucker with a fair bit of pace and can tackle like Andy Griffin(tough). As is well documented, his concentration is shit, but his performances recently have been good. Playing to his strenghts, would be a more defensive set-up, and playing him alongside a a set back 3. People used to wonder how Andy O'Brien looked decent for Ireland, but god-awful for Newcastle. It was down to this. He wasn;t asked to do much, just get rid of the fucker everytime it came near him. By the way, I agree with your contract thoughts, medium term and I'd keep him at the same level of wage. Edited March 9, 2007 by Barney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zico martin 84 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 How old are Gate and Cave? I signed Kris Gate for Swansea on FM 07 and he was shit but then would did I expect with a name like Kris? fuckin spell it right twathead hope he's not reading this mind dont wanna make Kris Kros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Sibierski moved out of his rented flat this morning. Hogging the lift at 8am. Moving into permanent digs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinofbeans 86 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Our best bet would be to give Bramble a rolling week to week contract, he's been a far better player since he's been playing for his future, giving him this kind of contract would keep him on his toes. quoted for truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen 0 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 Distin. Yus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 1 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 As great as it would be to offer a player a rolling contract, there is no way that a Premier League footballer at the peak of physical fitness would accept a contract like that. Imagine he was injured for 3 months with no pay? If we were to offer him something like that, Everton, Blackburn or Bolton would pick him up, play to his strenghts and have a good defender on their books. Remind me of his strengths and why we aren't playing to them. Bramble deserves a 3 year contract for £15000 a week as thats the bracket he falls into, no more I think Bramble is a strong fucker with a fair bit of pace and can tackle like Andy Griffin(tough). As is well documented, his concentration is shit, but his performances recently have been good. Playing to his strenghts, would be a more defensive set-up, and playing him alongside a a set back 3. People used to wonder how Andy O'Brien looked decent for Ireland, but god-awful for Newcastle. It was down to this. He wasn;t asked to do much, just get rid of the fucker everytime it came near him. By the way, I agree with your contract thoughts, medium term and I'd keep him at the same level of wage. A team containing Martins, Owen, Duff and Dyer and we build the team around Bramble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil 0 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 (edited) Re: Bramble, there's another reason why I wouldn't give him a new contract: Every single time he has one of his better spells, he gets injured and is out for at least two months. Seeing as he seems to have been playing well recently, it's bound to happen soon. The cycle goes something like this: 1. Plays badly, everyone wants rid of him 2. Form picks up, NUFC manager stupidly talks about Bramble for England 3. Is injured for two months 4. Comes back and plays badly, everyone wants rid of him 5. Form picks up, NUFC manager stupidly talks about Bramble for England 6. Injured for two months Repeat ad nauseum. Edited March 10, 2007 by Bombadil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted March 10, 2007 Author Share Posted March 10, 2007 As great as it would be to offer a player a rolling contract, there is no way that a Premier League footballer at the peak of physical fitness would accept a contract like that. Imagine he was injured for 3 months with no pay? If we were to offer him something like that, Everton, Blackburn or Bolton would pick him up, play to his strenghts and have a good defender on their books. Remind me of his strengths and why we aren't playing to them. Bramble deserves a 3 year contract for £15000 a week as thats the bracket he falls into, no more I think Bramble is a strong fucker with a fair bit of pace and can tackle like Andy Griffin(tough). As is well documented, his concentration is shit, but his performances recently have been good. Playing to his strenghts, would be a more defensive set-up, and playing him alongside a a set back 3. People used to wonder how Andy O'Brien looked decent for Ireland, but god-awful for Newcastle. It was down to this. He wasn;t asked to do much, just get rid of the fucker everytime it came near him. By the way, I agree with your contract thoughts, medium term and I'd keep him at the same level of wage. A team containing Martins, Owen, Duff and Dyer and we build the team around Bramble. Bramble is an average footballer. Nothing more. His performances lately have warranted a short term contract IMO. But I'd never build a team around him as you suggest. Rather, if he's selected to play, I'd aim to play to his strenghts and hide his weaknesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen 0 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 His weaknesses. Ie: football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInspiration 1 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 (edited) Bramble's really inconsistent which is why giving him a long-term contract is a big risk, and why saying he's been showing improvements recently is too, as we've seen it many times before. And that's a big problem. I think a lot of the time he gets criticised more harshly than the likes of Ramage because we all know he actually has the ability to put in some superb performances and has all the attributes to be a top Premiership defender. The season must come to an end before any decision regarding his future is made. Until recently I would have thought he's had enough chances, but it would be unfair to shun him out in favour of a player like Ramage, simply on the basis he's had far more chances. Ramage is clearly not good enough and has been at fault for quite a few more goals this season than Bramble. Neither are particularly bad footballers, but sadly aren't good enough for a club of our (supposed) aspirations, however unfortunately we'll be no doubt working on a tight budget again this summer, so can't afford hald a dozen new defenders. Edited March 10, 2007 by TheInspiration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 Can't believe Solano still hasn't been renewed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Steve_Howey 0 Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 So who is out of contract at the end of next season? i.e. who can talk to other clubs in January? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 Bramble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Steve_Howey 0 Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 Bramble He was this Jan? I'm talking about next January Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 Bramble He was this Jan? I'm talking about next January Sorry, misread that. Owen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio 0 Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 Bramble He was this Jan? I'm talking about next January Sorry, misread that. Owen? That's the January after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawan 0 Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 Players out of contract this summer. Distin Ben Haim Sidwell Tuncay Viduka Feel free to add anyone else you know of. would deffos take sidwell,viduka and tuncay...we need sum 1 who is good in the air to play up front and viduka seems to the man to me...i would stick tuncay down the left because hes amazin and has bags of pace and sidwell well hes jst sidwell i would sign him any day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jusoda Kid 1 Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 Can't believe theres numptys on here who would give bramble another contract. FFS he's only played like he has because he's out of contract, he'll be back to usual once he gets another contract. Wake up people, he's thick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted April 25, 2007 Author Share Posted April 25, 2007 2007/08: Departure lounge The following players see their current playing contracts at SJP expire at the end of this season: Olivier Bernard - expected to leave Titus Bramble - no public contract offer Phil Cave - expected to leave David Edgar - expected to leave Kris Gate - expected to leave Alan O'Brien - expected to leave Craig Moore - expected to leave Oguchi Onyewu - purchase not expected Antoine Sibierski - one year deal agreed Nolberto Solano - one year deal agreed Pavel Srnicek - expected to leave Six Academy/Reserve players have already been informed of their release: Robert Cavener Ross Cowan Dean Critchlow Callum Little Lewis Marr Glenn Reay Assuming Sib and Sol sign but no others are retained, our first team squad before sales and acquisitions consists of: Goalkeepers: Given, Harper, Krul, Forster Defenders: Carr, Babayaro, Solano, Taylor, Ramage, Huntington. Midfielders: Dyer, Butt, Parker, Milner, Duff, Emre, N'Zogbia, Pattison. Forwards: Owen, Ameobi, Martins, Luque, Carroll, Sibierski, LuaLua, Troisi. (positions in some cases are nominal only) Suprised about Edgar. I personally thought he looked way more comfortable than Hunty. Probably ahead of Rambo too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26316 Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 Roeder was talking about sending Edgar out on loan next season so that may be inaccurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio 0 Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 I thought Roeder had said Edgar will be given a contract extension and sent out on loan next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty 0 Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 I can't believe they would even think about letting Edgar go. I really hope .com are wrong about that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 The Edgar one surprised me too. Hopefully it's an oversight, he's a way better prospect than Ramage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty 0 Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 Departure lounge The following players see their current playing contracts at SJP expire at the end of this season: Olivier Bernard - expected to leave Titus Bramble - no public contract offer Phil Cave - expected to leave David Edgar - expected to leave Kris Gate - expected to leave Alan O'Brien - expected to leave Craig Moore - expected to leave Oguchi Onyewu - purchase not expected Antoine Sibierski - one year deal agreed Nolberto Solano - one year deal agreed Pavel Srnicek - expected to leave Six Academy/Reserve players have already been informed of their release: Robert Cavener Ross Cowan Dean Critchlow Callum Little Lewis Marr Glenn Reay Assuming Sib and Sol sign but no others are retained, our first team squad before sales and acquisitions consists of: Goalkeepers: Given, Harper, Krul, Forster Defenders: Carr, Babayaro, Solano, Taylor, Ramage, Huntington. Midfielders: Dyer, Butt, Parker, Milner, Duff, Emre, N'Zogbia, Pattison. Forwards: Owen, Ameobi, Martins, Luque, Carroll, Sibierski, LuaLua, Troisi. (positions in some cases are nominal only) I WOULD KEEP : Robert Cavener Ross Cowan Dean Critchlow Callum Little Lewis Marr Glenn because there my m8s!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 Departure lounge The following players see their current playing contracts at SJP expire at the end of this season: Olivier Bernard - expected to leave Titus Bramble - no public contract offer Phil Cave - expected to leave David Edgar - expected to leave Kris Gate - expected to leave Alan O'Brien - expected to leave Craig Moore - expected to leave Oguchi Onyewu - purchase not expected Antoine Sibierski - one year deal agreed Nolberto Solano - one year deal agreed Pavel Srnicek - expected to leave Six Academy/Reserve players have already been informed of their release: Robert Cavener Ross Cowan Dean Critchlow Callum Little Lewis Marr Glenn Reay Assuming Sib and Sol sign but no others are retained, our first team squad before sales and acquisitions consists of: Goalkeepers: Given, Harper, Krul, Forster Defenders: Carr, Babayaro, Solano, Taylor, Ramage, Huntington. Midfielders: Dyer, Butt, Parker, Milner, Duff, Emre, N'Zogbia, Pattison. Forwards: Owen, Ameobi, Martins, Luque, Carroll, Sibierski, LuaLua, Troisi. (positions in some cases are nominal only) I WOULD KEEP : Robert Cavener Ross Cowan Dean Critchlow Callum Little Lewis Marr Glenn because there my m8s!!! there your mates what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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