trophyshy 6432 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Boca Juniors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stevie Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Boca Juniors River Plate, always had a childish soft spot for River. Look at this....such a catchy song.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 31 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 You been researching this all that time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jusoda Kid 1 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Where's old man noelie went? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 You seem to have based it largely on the club's history. In actual size, I'd have Man Utd, Liverpool and Chelsea in there. I'd also have Real Madrid and Barcelona. AC Milan and Inter Milan. The other two would probably be Bayern Munich and Lyon. That's just at the moment, though. It was without UK teams if you read it again. Oh yeah, forgot about that. What exactly is the point in this thread, then? Can you not read?? The thread asks you who you think are the biggest clubs in Europe. If you've got nothing to say, which clearly you haven't being a fuckin dick asking stupid questions like that, say nothing. Class, another sociopath joins the ranks. BCM in Malaga is the biggest club in Europe. FACT!11@@ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 You seem to have based it largely on the club's history. In actual size, I'd have Man Utd, Liverpool and Chelsea in there. I'd also have Real Madrid and Barcelona. AC Milan and Inter Milan. The other two would probably be Bayern Munich and Lyon. That's just at the moment, though. It was without UK teams if you read it again. Oh yeah, forgot about that. What exactly is the point in this thread, then? Can you not read?? The thread asks you who you think are the biggest clubs in Europe. If you've got nothing to say, which clearly you haven't being a fuckin dick asking stupid questions like that, say nothing. Class, another sociopath joins the ranks. BCM in Malaga is the biggest club in Europe. FACT!11@@ Unfortunately not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 2929 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 You seem to have based it largely on the club's history. In actual size, I'd have Man Utd, Liverpool and Chelsea in there. I'd also have Real Madrid and Barcelona. AC Milan and Inter Milan. The other two would probably be Bayern Munich and Lyon. That's just at the moment, though. It was without UK teams if you read it again. Oh yeah, forgot about that. What exactly is the point in this thread, then? Can you not read?? The thread asks you who you think are the biggest clubs in Europe. If you've got nothing to say, which clearly you haven't being a fuckin dick asking stupid questions like that, say nothing. Class, another sociopath joins the ranks. BCM in Malaga is the biggest club in Europe. FACT!11@@ Unfortunately not. I miss Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Seems a bit short-tempered to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 2929 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Seems a bit short-tempered to me. More fat-tempered cunt tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 You seem to have based it largely on the club's history. In actual size, I'd have Man Utd, Liverpool and Chelsea in there. I'd also have Real Madrid and Barcelona. AC Milan and Inter Milan. The other two would probably be Bayern Munich and Lyon. That's just at the moment, though. It was without UK teams if you read it again. Oh yeah, forgot about that. What exactly is the point in this thread, then? Can you not read?? The thread asks you who you think are the biggest clubs in Europe. If you've got nothing to say, which clearly you haven't being a fuckin dick asking stupid questions like that, say nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Celtic Definatley, just for the world wide support not for the cups. IMO there are only three world clubs in English Football. Manure Celtic Liverpoo So if you class Celtic in them, then you can class them in Europe IMO? haddaway and shite man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stevie Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Celtic Definatley, just for the world wide support not for the cups. IMO there are only three world clubs in English Football. Manure Celtic Liverpoo So if you class Celtic in them, then you can class them in Europe IMO? haddaway and shite man It's a joke how highly this club are rated. Their fans make the loudest noises about how big they are, supporters of genuinely massive clubs like Manchester United don't have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redshadow 0 Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 Celtic Definatley, just for the world wide support not for the cups. IMO there are only three world clubs in English Football. Manure Celtic Liverpoo So if you class Celtic in them, then you can class them in Europe IMO? haddaway and shite man It's a joke how highly this club are rated. Their fans make the loudest noises about how big they are, supporters of genuinely massive clubs like Manchester United don't have to. Celtic are a very big worldwide fanbased club, you only have to look at their turnover to realise that. Scottish clubs have a far smaller income from TV etc and still Celtic had a turnover of 122 million Euros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stevie Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 Celtic Definatley, just for the world wide support not for the cups. IMO there are only three world clubs in English Football. Manure Celtic Liverpoo So if you class Celtic in them, then you can class them in Europe IMO? haddaway and shite man It's a joke how highly this club are rated. Their fans make the loudest noises about how big they are, supporters of genuinely massive clubs like Manchester United don't have to. Celtic are a very big worldwide fanbased club, you only have to look at their turnover to realise that. Scottish clubs have a far smaller income from TV etc and still Celtic had a turnover of 122 million Euros. I think it's a bit rich to use the rich list as a gauge of size of club. By that reckoning 5 or 6 years ago Shepherd was right and we were the 8th biggest club in the world. Not bad for a "small club". 111m Euros really isn't that spectacular. The last Deloitte report published was this year, Celtic's turnover was 111m Euro's, our s was 130m. In £ sterling this was the list.... 1 1 Real Madrid Pounds 236.2m 2 4 Man Utd Pounds 212.1m 3 2 Barcelona Pounds 195.3m 4 6 Chelsea Pounds 190.5m 5 9 Arsenal Pounds 177.6m 6 5 AC Milan Pounds 153m 7 8 Bayern Munich Pounds 150.3m 8 10 Liverpool Pounds 133.9m 9 7 Internazionale Pounds 131.3m 10 12 AS Roma Pounds 106.1m 11 15 Tottenham Pounds 103.1m 12 3 Juventus Pounds 97.7m 13 11 Lyons Pounds 94.6m 14 13 Newcastle Pounds 87.1m (lowest position in 10 years) 15 16 Hamburg SV Pounds 81.0m 16 14 Schalke Pounds 76.9m 17 - Celtic Pounds 75.2m 18 - Valencia Pounds 72.4m 19 - Marseille Pounds 66.6m 20 - Werder Bremen Pounds 65.5m This was our breakdown.... Newcastle Matchday 33.6m Broadcasting 25.9m Commercial 27.6m Celtic Matchday 34.3m Broadcasting 23.2m Commercial 17.7m Disproving the myth that the TV money is the reason Celtic are behind against clubs like us. Our broadcasting was just under 3m more than there's, their loss of Premiership money (against us anyway as we had no CL) is almost completely off-set against the Champions League purse they gained by almost reaching the Quarter Final of the CL in 2007. On the commercial side, we are £27m against their £17m..you would think such a WERRULDWIDE club with money pouring in from their WERRULDWIDE fanbase, would dwarf ours, in shirt sale, sponsorship, corporate interest...pmsl..but no People buy in to myths and always will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redshadow 0 Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 Celtic Definatley, just for the world wide support not for the cups. IMO there are only three world clubs in English Football. Manure Celtic Liverpoo So if you class Celtic in them, then you can class them in Europe IMO? haddaway and shite man It's a joke how highly this club are rated. Their fans make the loudest noises about how big they are, supporters of genuinely massive clubs like Manchester United don't have to. Celtic are a very big worldwide fanbased club, you only have to look at their turnover to realise that. Scottish clubs have a far smaller income from TV etc and still Celtic had a turnover of 122 million Euros. I think it's a bit rich to use the rich list as a gauge of size of club. By that reckoning 5 or 6 years ago Shepherd was right and we were the 8th biggest club in the world. Not bad for a "small club". 111m Euros really isn't that spectacular. The last Deloitte report published was this year, Celtic's turnover was 111m Euro's, our s was 130m. In £ sterling this was the list.... 1 1 Real Madrid Pounds 236.2m 2 4 Man Utd Pounds 212.1m 3 2 Barcelona Pounds 195.3m 4 6 Chelsea Pounds 190.5m 5 9 Arsenal Pounds 177.6m 6 5 AC Milan Pounds 153m 7 8 Bayern Munich Pounds 150.3m 8 10 Liverpool Pounds 133.9m 9 7 Internazionale Pounds 131.3m 10 12 AS Roma Pounds 106.1m 11 15 Tottenham Pounds 103.1m 12 3 Juventus Pounds 97.7m 13 11 Lyons Pounds 94.6m 14 13 Newcastle Pounds 87.1m (lowest position in 10 years) 15 16 Hamburg SV Pounds 81.0m 16 14 Schalke Pounds 76.9m 17 - Celtic Pounds 75.2m 18 - Valencia Pounds 72.4m 19 - Marseille Pounds 66.6m 20 - Werder Bremen Pounds 65.5m This was our breakdown.... Newcastle Matchday 33.6m Broadcasting 25.9m Commercial 27.6m Celtic Matchday 34.3m Broadcasting 23.2m Commercial 17.7m Disproving the myth that the TV money is the reason Celtic are behind against clubs like us. Our broadcasting was just under 3m more than there's, their loss of Premiership money (against us anyway as we had no CL) is almost completely off-set against the Champions League purse they gained by almost reaching the Quarter Final of the CL in 2007. On the commercial side, we are £27m against their £17m..you would think such a WERRULDWIDE club with money pouring in from their WERRULDWIDE fanbase, would dwarf ours, in shirt sale, sponsorship, corporate interest...pmsl..but no People buy in to myths and always will. I agree, people do buy in to myths, they also use out of date lists. Rankings for the 2007/08 season Full listing Rank Club Revenue (€ million) Country 1. Manchester United 365.2 England 2. Real Madrid 341.1 Spain 3. Chelsea 334.5 England 4. Arsenal 299.4 England 5. Barcelona 293.8 Spain 6. Liverpool 244.8 England 7. Bayern Munich 232.3 Germany 8. Inter 221.6 Italy 9. AC Milan 217.4 Italy 10. Tottenham 171.2 England 11. Juventus 170.2 Italy 12. Roma 166.5 Italy 13. Lyon 151.6 France 14. Newcastle 139.4 England 15. Manchester City 131.4 England 16. Schalke 04 130.3 Germany 17. Hamburg 127.4 Germany 18. Celtic 122.8 Scotland 19. Aston Villa 108.3 England 19. Rangers 103.1 Scotland 20. Werder Bremen 101.3 Germany I used the financial route because on planet Stevie that, and attendances, appear to be the only things that matter to make a big club. In reality these two things are only a small part of it. I think that most footy fans use trophies as the main criteria for the status of a club. The more, and the regularity of winning them, the bigger you become. Simple as really, no need for myths when using this as a measure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInspiration 1 Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 Oh yeah, the utter fucking spaz of an OP having Inter above Juventus Good to see people on this forum having a lot of respect for someone they disagree with about football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 Nicely contradictory there. Is it just a coincidence that the richest are the biggest clubs? You use the list (sorted by money) to show that club's that win things get bigger, presumably meaning more rich? Or something? You link status and money as following success but its clear that some clubs have status and money without success. Anyway whatever convoluted and contradictory point you were trying to make, your talking shit as Chelsea are well on their way to being a big club (by the trophy definition) due to nothing other than the financial situation. So finance is far from 'a small part of it', in fact i'd say its the be all and end all nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redshadow 0 Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 Nicely contradictory there. Is it just a coincidence that the richest are the biggest clubs? You use the list (sorted by money) to show that club's that win things get bigger, presumably meaning more rich? Or something? You link status and money as following success but its clear that some clubs have status and money without success. Anyway whatever convoluted and contradictory point you were trying to make, your talking shit as Chelsea are well on their way to being a big club (by the trophy definition) due to nothing other than the financial situation. So finance is far from 'a small part of it', in fact i'd say its the be all and end all nowadays. It was the middle of the night, as Rab so eloquently pointed out. Chelsea and QPR are the richest clubs on the planet apparently but that's a recent thing. Most clubs still build their teams according to what they bring in, with maybe a small (in comparison) investment by a new owner. No doubt in the future a rich owner willing to put a big percentage of his own money in to a club will be the norm, but at the moment Chelsea are a freak club and one of the few that have built their status on someone coming in and spending 500 million over their income as a club. Their trophy winning is taking them up the big club scale though. A club winning trophies is bound to get richer but it's the actual trophies that make it big in other fans eyes usually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 So finance is important then. We're a classic example of where spending doesnt necessarily bring you success but its clear that in the future success isnt likely without it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 Nicely contradictory there. Is it just a coincidence that the richest are the biggest clubs? You use the list (sorted by money) to show that club's that win things get bigger, presumably meaning more rich? Or something? You link status and money as following success but its clear that some clubs have status and money without success. Anyway whatever convoluted and contradictory point you were trying to make, your talking shit as Chelsea are well on their way to being a big club (by the trophy definition) due to nothing other than the financial situation. So finance is far from 'a small part of it', in fact i'd say its the be all and end all nowadays. of course. Its quite unbelievable the people who STILL appear to think its possible to be a top club and consistently win trophies etc without spending big money. They should go and rap Alex Ferguson on the knuckles and tell him how he's been getting it all wrong for the past 20 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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