Tom 13804 Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Not being sexist but it's clear that Marina and Louise just don't understand the terraces. What absolute shite and even in an article that shy's away from several key factors of what may have caused this abuse she still manages to fabricate some shite and even bring in a totally unrelated event just to have a pop at the toon. ] Mido's got a bomb" at the Egyptian striker, along with other Islamophobic abuse that somehow contrived to be even less artful. Whats this then? Where did this come from? Spiteful, hateful idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Who cares what a couple of leftist rug-munchers think ( ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Good grief. The trouble is that this is an issue where you have to be INCREDIBLY careful to focus on the right detail. She (and others) clearly have an agenda to show how much more tolerant and caring THEY are and wish to paint others as being the problem. I felt that too many people here were too quick to go for the wrong tack. The way to defend the "suicide bomber" chants would have been to say how much he looks like Richard Reid (which a lot of you did tbf) rather than saying how "white middle class" always gets it in the neck blah blah blah. Once you do that people like her have got you. If you stick to the lookalike angle ONLY, there is fuck all they can say about it. (Though admittedly it's not the brightest insult to throw around in these times). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13804 Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Basically the bunch of morons singing it fucked up big time. It happens everywhere in different ways, Tottenham = Yids etc, Yet theres nothing ever done about it, I mean i was at the huddersfield - bradford derby this year and you could hear ''your just a town full of pakis'' loud as fuck before you even got in the ground.. Just takes one biased mackem jouno to stir up all the clueless do gooders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6284 Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 They're making a very big issue out of something that is nowhere near on the scale that they're making it appear to be. Peasepud hit the nail on the head by pointing out that its not as though the 'abuse' is aimed at every player from a racial minority. Fuck's sake, terrace banter is all about prejudice of some sort and what happened on Sunday is hardly unprecedented? Had Mido not acted like the tit he did after scoring, no-one would have said a thing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 They're making a very big issue out of something that is nowhere near on the scale that they're making it appear to be. Peasepud hit the nail on the head by pointing out that its not as though the 'abuse' is aimed at every player from a racial minority. Fuck's sake, terrace banter is all about prejudice of some sort and what happened on Sunday is hardly unprecedented? Had Mido not acted like the tit he did after scoring, no-one would have said a thing.... No he didn't. That's not quite it. That theory would mean it's ok to abuse SOME black players if they "antagonise" the crowd. The more subtle point is that this argument has to be fought on "lookalike" grounds only. So hence "Fat Eddie Murphy" is perfectly ok. "Richard Reid" is ok. Anything else is too generic and therefore isn't excusable, especially when people are "looking" for a story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanMag 0 Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 (edited) I don't understand how Mido=bomber is Islamaphobic, personally. Would Emre (a turkish muslim) be offended by that? Or is it Arabaphobic (that's copywrighted btw)? Religion had nothing to do with this... Edited August 30, 2007 by newcastlebootboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6284 Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Religion had nothing to do with this... Precisely - its political correctness gone stupid combined with a stupid bint with a massive chip on her shoulder regarding NUFC who has no worthy news stories to print. Sack the bitch tbh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6284 Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Religion had nothing to do with this... Precisely - its political correctness gone stupid combined with a stupid bint with a massive chip on her shoulder regarding NUFC who has no worthy news stories to print. Sack the bitch tbh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanMag 0 Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 (edited) I actually see her as being out of order tbf... she is bringing attention to Mido's religion and the fact that he is Muslim. She is the one making the connection that Muslim=Bomber, not our supporters. Edited August 30, 2007 by newcastlebootboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13804 Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Well im boycotting the guardian like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26103 Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 I don't understand how Mido=bomber is Islamaphobic, personally. Would Emre (a turkish muslim) be offended by that? Or is it Arabaphobic (that's copywrighted btw)? Religion had nothing to do with this... Muslim player + abuse about a bomb = Islamaphobia Or at least that's how it looked on the face of it. People have pointed out that it was because of his resemblance to Richard Reid though personally I'm not too sure how many of those chanting were aware of the resemblance, especially since it has been a while since Reid was in the media spotlight and since Mido has gotten his hair cut the resemblance is less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanMag 0 Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 I don't understand how Mido=bomber is Islamaphobic, personally. Would Emre (a turkish muslim) be offended by that? Or is it Arabaphobic (that's copywrighted btw)? Religion had nothing to do with this... Muslim player + abuse about a bomb = Islamaphobia Or at least that's how it looked on the face of it. People have pointed out that it was because of his resemblance to Richard Reid though personally I'm not too sure how many of those chanting were aware of the resemblance, especially since it has been a while since Reid was in the media spotlight and since Mido has gotten his hair cut the resemblance is less. I understand. The point I was trying to make was that the issue really isn't about his religion (as much) as it is his ethnicity. Emre is muslim but he isn't arabic so would the taunts have affected him as much? Or maybe a player from South East Asia (I am aware that they have had their bombings as well)? Islam wasn't even mentioned until Taylor's article. [bad joke]It is just Louise Taylor and her jihad on NUFC![/bad joke] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehips 0 Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Thought police get on my fuckin' wick. Thought Policeman: 'Oooh, you mustn't think that. That is wrong. You're such a prol having those thoughts, y'know. Listen to me and my pals who know all there is to know about racism and how to interpret your actions/thoughts. We'll save you!' Normal dude: 'Oh, I'm sorry. I couldn't help myself. I am a bad machine and I didn't know it.' WANKAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 (edited) I actually see her as being out of order tbf... she is bringing attention to Mido's religion and the fact that he is Muslim. She is the one making the connection that Muslim=Bomber, not our supporters. Again "Islamophobia" is a TOOL. (in this case also being used by a tool) Usually it's used as a political bludgeon or misdirecting political smokescreen (kinda like how a squid pumps out a cloud of black ink and then make its escape in the confusion). But in this case it's been used as a bludgeon to settle what I guess is a personal score (with a few others jumping on the bandwagon to sell papers/books etc). Edited August 30, 2007 by Fop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13804 Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 I actually see her as being out of order tbf... she is bringing attention to Mido's religion and the fact that he is Muslim. She is the one making the connection that Muslim=Bomber, not our supporters. Again "Islamophobia" is a TOOL. (in this case also being used by a tool) Usually it's used as a political bludgeon or misdirecting political smokescreen (kinda like how a squid pumps out a cloud of black ink and then make its escape in the confusion). But in this case it's been used as a bludgeon to settle what I guess is a personal score (with a few others jumping on the bandwagon to sell papers/books etc). I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 What do you call a muslim bloke who flies a plane? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13804 Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 A PILOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 What do you call a muslim bloke who flies a plane? A pilot? (Mohamed would statistically also be a good guess - but that would then clearly fall under the umbrella of "Islamophobia" ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 13921 Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 What do you call a muslim bloke who flies a plane? A suicide bummer. Cack, wrong joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 A PILOT The correct answer is (shouted at top of voice in a crowded room at the hesitant party) "A PILOT YOU FUCKING RACIST" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 13921 Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 A PILOT The correct answer is (shouted at top of voice in a crowded room at the hesitant party) "A PILOT YOU FUCKING RACIST" Parodying Fop's writing style is so two days ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13804 Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Yeh i guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 A PILOT The correct answer is (shouted at top of voice in a crowded room at the hesitant party) "A PILOT YOU FUCKING RACIST" Parodying Fop's writing style is so two days ago. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themags 0 Posted August 31, 2007 Share Posted August 31, 2007 good to the BBC taking my complaint seriously, looks like i'm only worthy of auto generated reply ============================= Dear Karl Thank you for your e-mail. I note your concerns regarding 'Look North' on 28 August and the report on Middlesbrough v Newcastle game. Please be assured that your comments have been fully registered on our daily audience log. This internal document will be made available to the 'Look North' production team and Senior BBC Management. Once again, thank you for taking the time to contact us. Regards Damian Whyte BBC Informatio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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