Jimbo 133 Posted September 29, 2007 Author Share Posted September 29, 2007 Simple facts for all to see: Smith is not a midfielder N'Zogbia is not a Left back Butt is shite more often than not Geremi is fucking shite Taylor is little more than a white Titus Bramble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 3960 Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 The way I see this season is that given a chance to gel, we will see a lot more solid defence (especially with Faye/Cacapa instead of Taylor) but until the midfield can be enhanced in January I think we'll rarely "turn it on" away from home and against sides with a bit of flair like Man City will struggle. I think we'll do well at home. I hope Barton does make as much a difference as people hope but I feel we need more than just him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Don't forget what the respective managers inherited at the start of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 3960 Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Simple facts for all to see: Smith is not a midfielder N'Zogbia is not a Left back Butt is shite more often than not Geremi is fucking shite Taylor is little more than a white Titus Bramble. The thing with Geremi is that I thought after losing Parker it would mean the end of someone whose idea of a pass is to hit the ball in the general direction of a random shirt. Geremi has proved me wrong on that. Substitute "Geordie" for "White" and that's how I've described Taylor since day one. Faye is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI 0 Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Petrov and Elano: exactly the type of midfield players we lack, you can stuff Geremi and Smith up your arse. Especially Smith... both ends of the "Attacking Midfield" spectrum him and Elano.... Smith has just been stroling around all game. Smith's been nonexistent, Butt's been atrocious (horrific tackle early on, and a deliberate foul on Petrov in front of the ref that surely merited a yellow) and yet the one time Geremi's looking vaguely decent, it's him comes off. Big Sam's tactics as of late have been less than satisfactory, he must realize that buying the players is just the first step. Any thoughts on the number of times Martins' poor touches have surrendered possession, broken up an attack and led to a dangerous counter? Think you could say that about most of our team! Butt and Smith stand out the most. If this is Big Sams way then he can keep it! And why have we still got the shite coaches from last season there? We just look like a sub standard mid table side nothing more. Yes Bartons got to come back but can you really see him making up for the shite we've been watching since Sam's taken over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelie 103 Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Aa shudda stayed in bed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckerDavies 0 Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 4-3-3 just doesn't work for us,Fuck it off and never bring it back Probably be back with Smith-Geremi-Butt as well in the next game tbh. I hope Emre/Barton are back very very soon i am sick to death of this defence midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI 0 Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Aa shudda stayed in bed I'd stay there until we get a decent side to support! Fucking shambles! We created more under Roeder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Here we go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 2929 Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Yep, to all the twats out there that have been calling for taylor to be a first choice centre half, I hope you watched that game and realised the errors of your ways! Oh and can anyone explain to me how martins can control a ball like he did for the goal and then proceed to let everything else bounce four feet in front of him off his shin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 8868 Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 The way I see this season is that given a chance to gel, we will see a lot more solid defence (especially with Faye/Cacapa instead of Taylor) but until the midfield can be enhanced in January I think we'll rarely "turn it on" away from home and against sides with a bit of flair like Man City will struggle. I think we'll do well at home. I hope Barton does make as much a difference as people hope but I feel we need more than just him. I pretty much agree. I guess this season will very much be an up and down of performances. City have started well, so losing there isn't the end of the world. Still, there are some serious shortcoming in the abilities of various players and it will take much more time for the team to work together than I thought it would be the case. Barton will make some difference, because it can't be as poor as having the likes of Smith playing there. Also moving N'Zogbia into midfield will hopefully make a difference with at least some creativity and pace coming to our play. Ideally also Duff will make a difference in case he can get fit and in form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil 0 Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Shame Smith didn't get himself booked today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrossthepond 699 Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Petrov and Elano: exactly the type of midfield players we lack, you can stuff Geremi and Smith up your arse. Especially Smith... both ends of the "Attacking Midfield" spectrum him and Elano.... Smith has just been stroling around all game. Smith's been nonexistent, Butt's been atrocious (horrific tackle early on, and a deliberate foul on Petrov in front of the ref that surely merited a yellow) and yet the one time Geremi's looking vaguely decent, it's him comes off. Big Sam's tactics as of late have been less than satisfactory, he must realize that buying the players is just the first step. Any thoughts on the number of times Martins' poor touches have surrendered possession, broken up an attack and led to a dangerous counter? Actually I thought that Martins and Milner provided the only energy in this game. And I believe the game was lost in midfield although the defence was pretty shocking too, which is why I focused on them. Next match: GK: Given RB: Beye CB: Rozy/Cacapa LB: Sanchez RW: Milner CM: Barton/Butt LW: N'Zogbia ST: Martins/Viduka bench: Harper, Taylor, Faye, Geremi, Smith (SMITH as striker not mid) You heard it here first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Oh and can anyone explain to me how martins can control a ball like he did for the goal and then proceed to let everything else bounce four feet in front of him off his shin? He's inconsistent. Do I win a prize? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 2929 Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 (edited) Oh and can anyone explain to me how martins can control a ball like he did for the goal and then proceed to let everything else bounce four feet in front of him off his shin? He's inconsistent. Do I win a prize? Yes you win a big load of fucking nothing! edit: oh and thanks again for the help earlier obagol Edited September 29, 2007 by sammynb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Actually I thought that Martins and Milner provided the only energy in this game. And I believe the game was lost in midfield although the defence was pretty shocking too, which is why I focused on them. You know that's not what I asked, though, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM4 0 Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 GK: Given RB: Beye CB: Rozy/Cacapa LB: Sanchez RW: Milner CM: Barton/Butt LW: N'Zogbia ST: Martins/Viduka bench: Harper, Taylor, Faye, Geremi, Smith (SMITH as striker not mid) Surely that's got to be the obvious choice of a set up! Praying this is how we line up against Everton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@yourservice 67 Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Absolute shite! Whats the difference from last season in our play to this one?cause I'm fucked if i can see it,the players he's brought in might have looked good on paper compared to the one's he let go,but i can't see the difference here like. Can't even control a fucking football never mind pass it,and the same faces are still there in Terry Mac and Pearson with Clark as fucking reserve team coach,ffs i thought the fat man was gonna change the setup?tbh i don't think he knows what system is best for the players he's brought in and the players themselves don't know what job they have to on the pitch. fucking shambles of a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 How many people still think Milner will ever be good enough for a top 4 or even top 6 side btw? Shame like; good, honest, hard working player, so inconsistent with his final pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 133 Posted September 29, 2007 Author Share Posted September 29, 2007 I've always felt Milner looks better playing through the middle rather than on either wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 edit: oh and thanks again for the help earlier obagol No hassle. PS Taylor for England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish Mag 3 Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 4-3-3 just doesn't work for us,Fuck it off and never bring it back It was when we changed to 4-4-2 that we got even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia 0 Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 (edited) Absolute shite! Whats the difference from last season in our play to this one?cause I'm fucked if i can see it,the players he's brought in might have looked good on paper compared to the one's he let go,but i can't see the difference here like. Can't even control a fucking football never mind pass it,and the same faces are still there in Terry Mac and Pearson with Clark as fucking reserve team coach,ffs i thought the fat man was gonna change the setup?tbh i don't think he knows what system is best for the players he's brought in and the players themselves don't know what job they have to on the pitch. fucking shambles of a team. Massive kneejerk written by a massive twat Edited September 29, 2007 by Skol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 2929 Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 PS Taylor for England. You twat!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish Mag 3 Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 How many people still think Milner will ever be good enough for a top 4 or even top 6 side btw? Shame like; good, honest, hard working player, so inconsistent with his final pass. I have always thought he was over rated. Happens all too often with English/British players who run at the opposition.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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