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How many of our players signed under Gullit, Robson and Souness have really improved their game?

 

This isn't all of them, just some i could think of quickly.

 

Carr.................got worse

Bramble...........not really

Baba................no

Boum...............Not so far

O'Brien.............no

Hughes.............i didn't think so

Robert..............1st season was his best IMO

Viana...............no

Jenas...............no

Dyer................no

Zoggy..............a bit

Faye................no

Lua Lua............no

Ameobi............no

Bernard...........improved quite a bit but should have come on more

Bellamy...........yes. He's the only one i can think of who definitely upped his game and was still improving all the time. I put this down to his own desire to get better, he was a very focused guy who desperately wanted to be the best. And we still managed to sell him for less than we paid but thats another thread.

 

1)It seems to me that other clubs have a much better succes rate at improving players, why is this?

2)Or am i mistaken and the ones i mentioned above have really improved?

3)Or am i mistaken in that players don't ever get better at other clubs either?

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How many of our players signed under Gullit, Robson and Souness have really improved their game?

 

This isn't all of them, just some i could think of quickly.

 

Carr.................got worse

Bramble...........not really

Baba................no

Boum...............Not so far

O'Brien.............no

Hughes.............i didn't think so

Robert..............1st season was his best IMO

Viana...............no

Jenas...............no

Dyer................no

Zoggy..............a bit

Faye................no

Lua Lua............no

Ameobi............no

Bernard...........improved quite a bit but should have come on more

Bellamy...........yes. He's the only one i can think of who definitely upped his game and was still improving all the time. I put this down to his own desire to get better, he was a very focused guy who desperately wanted to be the best. And we still managed to sell him for less than we paid but thats another thread.

 

1)It seems to me that other clubs have a much better succes rate at improving players, why is this?

2)Or am i mistaken and the ones i mentioned above have really improved?

3)Or am i mistaken in that players don't ever get better at other clubs either?

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Becuase they're a bunch of money motivated slackers who are more interested in gertting a new Beemer than doing really well for NUFC? Or maybe we've got crap management and coaching staff? Perhaps both.

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Occasionally its just random bad luck, occasionally its down to a mistake in the manager signing a player who isn't as good as first thought, but overall and without doubt its down to unbelievably shite coaching from top to bottom at this club, Coaching which has been allowed to reamain piss poor for god knows how long now.

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As PL says I suspect the coaching is shit and has been for a long time.

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I'm hoping Roeder might help with youth development.

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I know he struggled a bit as West Ham manager but the likes of Carrick and Cole rated him as a coach by all accounts.

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How many of our players signed under Gullit, Robson and Souness have really improved their game?

 

This isn't all of them, just some i could think of quickly.

 

Carr.................got worse

Bramble...........not really

Baba................no

Boum...............Not so far

O'Brien.............no

Hughes.............i didn't think so, signed as kid! Improved from nothing to first team

Robert..............1st season was his best IMO

Viana...............no

Jenas...............no He did but then disimproved.

Dyer................no

Zoggy..............a bit

Faye................no

Lua Lua............no

Ameobi............no

Bernard...........improved quite a bit but should have come on more

Bellamy...........yes. He's the only one i can think of who definitely upped his game and was still improving all the time. I put this down to his own desire to get better, he was a very focused guy who desperately wanted to be the best. And we still managed to sell him for less than we paid but thats another thread.

 

1)It seems to me that other clubs have a much better succes rate at improving players, why is this?

2)Or am i mistaken and the ones i mentioned above have really improved?

3)Or am i mistaken in that players don't ever get better at other clubs either?

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