Not Starting a Record shop & starting a guitar shop, Internet, then the world!

[Guest BigThompers]

This thread still going?

 

Won't ever happen man.

 

Wrong.

 

Im starting in August or I might give a something a shot at the end of June/July as I will have the storage space.

 

Guitars have a market, especially for people who know what they are talking about (me).

 

 

Won't. happen.

 

Ok mate.

 

It's like Rafa taking the piss out of Drogba.

 

I admire your ambition.

 

It won't happen.

[Tom 13830]

This thread still going?

 

Won't ever happen man.

 

Wrong.

 

Im starting in August or I might give a something a shot at the end of June/July as I will have the storage space.

 

Guitars have a market, especially for people who know what they are talking about (me).

 

 

Won't. happen.

 

Ok mate.

 

It's like Rafa taking the piss out of Drogba.

 

I admire your ambition.

 

It won't happen.

 

No, you have it all wrong.

 

It is happening. Me and my father are getting in touch with Fender europe, i have the finance so once i find my market and niche` its all go.

 

Fender Squires sell like hot cakes, especially around August (exam result time , Obviously around November and running into december they sell fantastically.

 

January is also a strangely amazing month for guitar sales.

 

There is even a market for Chinese unbranded imports which is how companies like Stagg got off their feet. They are now catering for the lower end of the market and making a killing.

 

These things do happen and people do start successful business's, it's not easy but it's achievable.

 

Plus I have the right knowledge and backing, my mother is an accountant and my brother done some kind of business course (Parky )

 

However it is clear you are on the wind up and you aren't interested in sales pattern or facts

[peasepud 59]

well whats the odds on that,

 

 

only 100 European copies of the Black album and two people on here have it.

 

funkadelicbootlegcopytastic.

[peasepud 59]

This thread still going?

 

Won't ever happen man.

 

Wrong.

 

Im starting in August or I might give a something a shot at the end of June/July as I will have the storage space.

 

Guitars have a market, especially for people who know what they are talking about (me).

 

 

Won't. happen.

 

Ok mate.

 

It's like Rafa taking the piss out of Drogba.

 

I admire your ambition.

 

It won't happen.

 

No, you have it all wrong.

 

It is happening. Me and my father are getting in touch with Fender europe, i have the finance so once i find my market and niche` its all go.

 

Fender Squires sell like hot cakes, especially around August (exam result time , Obviously around November and running into december they sell fantastically.

 

January is also a strangely amazing month for guitar sales.

 

There is even a market for Chinese unbranded imports which is how companies like Stagg got off their feet. They are now catering for the lower end of the market and making a killing.

 

These things do happen and people do start successful business's, it's not easy but it's achievable.

 

Plus I have the right knowledge and backing, my mother is an accountant and my brother done some kind of business course (Parky )

 

However it is clear you are on the wind up and you aren't interested in sales pattern or facts

 

All of this though, is what we were saying 6 pages ago.

 

Dont bother with bricks n mortar just do it via t'internet.

 

With a shop you would be looking at both a much reduced profit margin and a reduced customer base. This way you can go to work without leaving your bed, its like being a student forever!

[Tom 13830]

This thread still going?

 

Won't ever happen man.

 

Wrong.

 

Im starting in August or I might give a something a shot at the end of June/July as I will have the storage space.

 

Guitars have a market, especially for people who know what they are talking about (me).

 

 

Won't. happen.

 

Ok mate.

 

It's like Rafa taking the piss out of Drogba.

 

I admire your ambition.

 

It won't happen.

 

No, you have it all wrong.

 

It is happening. Me and my father are getting in touch with Fender europe, i have the finance so once i find my market and niche` its all go.

 

Fender Squires sell like hot cakes, especially around August (exam result time , Obviously around November and running into december they sell fantastically.

 

January is also a strangely amazing month for guitar sales.

 

There is even a market for Chinese unbranded imports which is how companies like Stagg got off their feet. They are now catering for the lower end of the market and making a killing.

 

These things do happen and people do start successful business's, it's not easy but it's achievable.

 

Plus I have the right knowledge and backing, my mother is an accountant and my brother done some kind of business course (Parky )

 

However it is clear you are on the wind up and you aren't interested in sales pattern or facts

 

All of this though, is what we were saying 6 pages ago.

 

Dont bother with bricks n mortar just do it via t'internet.

 

With a shop you would be looking at both a much reduced profit margin and a reduced customer base. This way you can go to work without leaving your bed, its like being a student forever!

 

Yeh i suppose so.

 

We'l see how the internet thing takes off but still a brick and mortar store is superior.

 

It's all about trying the instrument, My Les Paul cost me £1k, i tried about 12 to 15 guitars before I bought it and it was the best. I was willing to spend a maximum of £2.5k and in the end i didn't have to. A lot of guitarists do the same but i will have to research internet sales of up market guitars, however i think it will confirm what i already know.

 

The last guitar i bough was an Ibanez at £600 in november, i must have been in the shop for two hours before i dedcided i was taking it.

 

It's all relative to individual products and customers needs. Guitar buying is more cup of tea/relax than a simple click on Amazon.

[Tom 13830]

well whats the odds on that,

 

 

only 100 European copies of the Black album and two people on here have it.

 

funkadelicbootlegcopytastic.

 

My uncle has some amazing records and some of the values he deals with are daft.

 

He collects as a hobby but if he went into business he would do well.

[Park Life 70]

This thread still going?

 

Won't ever happen man.

 

Wrong.

 

Im starting in August or I might give a something a shot at the end of June/July as I will have the storage space.

 

Guitars have a market, especially for people who know what they are talking about (me).

 

 

Won't. happen.

 

Ok mate.

 

It's like Rafa taking the piss out of Drogba.

 

I admire your ambition.

 

It won't happen.

 

No, you have it all wrong.

 

It is happening. Me and my father are getting in touch with Fender europe, i have the finance so once i find my market and niche` its all go.

 

Fender Squires sell like hot cakes, especially around August (exam result time , Obviously around November and running into december they sell fantastically.

 

January is also a strangely amazing month for guitar sales.

 

There is even a market for Chinese unbranded imports which is how companies like Stagg got off their feet. They are now catering for the lower end of the market and making a killing.

 

These things do happen and people do start successful business's, it's not easy but it's achievable.

 

Plus I have the right knowledge and backing, my mother is an accountant and my brother done some kind of business course (Parky )

 

However it is clear you are on the wind up and you aren't interested in sales pattern or facts

 

All of this though, is what we were saying 6 pages ago.

 

Dont bother with bricks n mortar just do it via t'internet.

 

With a shop you would be looking at both a much reduced profit margin and a reduced customer base. This way you can go to work without leaving your bed, its like being a student forever!

 

Yeh i suppose so.

 

We'l see how the internet thing takes off but still a brick and mortar store is superior.

 

It's all about trying the instrument, My Les Paul cost me £1k, i tried about 12 to 15 guitars before I bought it and it was the best. I was willing to spend a maximum of £2.5k and in the end i didn't have to. A lot of guitarists do the same but i will have to research internet sales of up market guitars, however i think it will confirm what i already know.

 

The last guitar i bough was an Ibanez at £600 in november, i must have been in the shop for two hours before i dedcided i was taking it.

 

It's all relative to individual products and customers needs. Guitar buying is more cup of tea/relax than a simple click on Amazon.

 

Truly baby....Truly.

[ewerk 26232]

We'l see how the internet thing takes off but still a brick and mortar store is superior.

 

It's all about trying the instrument, My Les Paul cost me £1k, i tried about 12 to 15 guitars before I bought it and it was the best. I was willing to spend a maximum of £2.5k and in the end i didn't have to. A lot of guitarists do the same but i will have to research internet sales of up market guitars, however i think it will confirm what i already know.

 

The last guitar i bough was an Ibanez at £600 in november, i must have been in the shop for two hours before i dedcided i was taking it.

 

It's all relative to individual products and customers needs. Guitar buying is more cup of tea/relax than a simple click on Amazon.

 

 

Aye but surely what anyone would/should do is go to a shop and try them out then see if they can get the same model cheaper on the net?

[sammynb 2929]

We'l see how the internet thing takes off but still a brick and mortar store is superior.

 

It's all about trying the instrument, My Les Paul cost me £1k, i tried about 12 to 15 guitars before I bought it and it was the best. I was willing to spend a maximum of £2.5k and in the end i didn't have to. A lot of guitarists do the same but i will have to research internet sales of up market guitars, however i think it will confirm what i already know.

 

The last guitar i bough was an Ibanez at £600 in november, i must have been in the shop for two hours before i dedcided i was taking it.

 

It's all relative to individual products and customers needs. Guitar buying is more cup of tea/relax than a simple click on Amazon.

 

 

Aye but surely what anyone would/should do is go to a shop and try them out then see if they can get the same model cheaper on the net?

 

But that's where you are wrong ewerk a great guitar can sound really average if it hasn't been setup correctly and vise versa.

The average punter goes to a shop, finds something that appeals, sits down plays smoke on the water/black knight/stairway and if it sounds like shite because the bridge is to low and the thing just buzzes, chances are that person will right off that model of guitar because they don't know any better.

 

Tom you should call the shop T-Keith's Axed simple, to the point.

Just a thought, find yourself a pedal supplier that is a low cost, high profit option to say Boss. Find a good reliable, cheap supplier of nylons string acoustic guitars and then you've got the high turn over items covered.

Then stock things like those hand made Tasmania effects pedals that you can charge a bomb for for all those that want something different.

I really close family friend runs a music shop, not just guitars but all instruments, in a regional town and at least 50% of all his profit is from the high turn over, low cost high profit things. the stuff you would never buy yourself but parents do for their children (like the squires guitars).

Specialised places, like this one http://www.jacksonsrareguitars.com/, in many ways are a lot more time consuming because you are always searching for stock but the thing is these guys didn't just start selling rare guitars, they sold any guitar they could until they were able to build up the business.

[Tom 13830]

Yeh Warwick do a good range of the cheap shite so i'll talk to them.

 

My Dad thinks I should start off slowly and then start securing contracts with suppliers.

[sammynb 2929]

Yeh Warwick do a good range of the cheap shite so i'll talk to them.

 

My Dad thinks I should start off slowly and then start securing contracts with suppliers.

 

That's all well and good but you don't want to be contracted into having to sell so many units of stuff you don't really want to inorder to get your contracted discount - especially when they want you to sell a dozen huon pine barotone recorders a month.

 

Tom, take what you need out of the advice offered here but don't be put off. At your age you can afford to take a gamble, if it doesn't work out, do something else. Otherwise you'll get to 40 and wonder what if.

[Tom 13830]

Yeh.

 

Im 21 so i have plenty time to start up. Mike Ashley started off with one Ski shop in London in the 80's and he probably had pricks telling him not to bother.

 

There are obstacles but I think i can over come them. I just don't want to wake up one day, 50 year old in some shitty 22 grand job without any ambition.

 

There are things to take heed of & if i dont pay attention i will never get a business grant.

 

Im willing to invest a lot of money, fair enough personally i dont have enough but people im close to do.

[sammynb 2929]

Im willing to invest a lot of money, fair enough personally i dont have enough but people im close to do.

 

Want to invest in a feature film???

[Tom 13830]

Im willing to invest a lot of money, fair enough personally i dont have enough but people im close to do.

 

Want to invest in a feature film???

 

No.

 

Do you?

 

www.withoutwiresfilm.co.uk

 

Some of the stuff ive got down at the moment is amazing.

 

The artillery makes you jump

[sammynb 2929]

Im willing to invest a lot of money, fair enough personally i dont have enough but people im close to do.

 

Want to invest in a feature film???

 

No.

 

Do you?

 

www.withoutwiresfilm.co.uk

 

Some of the stuff ive got down at the moment is amazing.

 

The artillery makes you jump

 

Did you end up using any of the effects I sent you?

And you know I already am!

[Tom 13830]

Im willing to invest a lot of money, fair enough personally i dont have enough but people im close to do.

 

Want to invest in a feature film???

 

No.

 

Do you?

 

www.withoutwiresfilm.co.uk

 

Some of the stuff ive got down at the moment is amazing.

 

The artillery makes you jump

 

Did you end up using any of the effects I sent you?

And you know I already am!

 

Nah, a lot of the stuff ive used ended up being fairly high end.

 

The Free Sound Project helped a little but there were still some scenes Im finding hard, well one i guess, which is a railway station waiting room.

 

We have a cinema screening on the 26th and i can't wait.

 

I've been editing on some really flash Mac and it's mental.

 

Il post the link up on here after the screening. We are going to be involved in a lot of Film festivals too which is a bit mad.

 

Plus some guy came all the way from Helsinki on Friday, just to see a rough cut for fucks sake!

 

[sammynb 2929]

Plus some guy came all the way from Helsinki on Friday, just to see a rough cut for fucks sake!

 

 

That's a good thing and means people are interested.

I've worked on stuff where people either aren't interested in the subject or those producing it haven't been able to drum up interest in it and inevitably it either doesn't get finished or it does but lacks any quality.

But when people you don't know start taking an interest you know you've got something good.

[Tom 13830]

Plus some guy came all the way from Helsinki on Friday, just to see a rough cut for fucks sake!

 

 

That's a good thing and means people are interested.

I've worked on stuff where people either aren't interested in the subject or those producing it haven't been able to drum up interest in it and inevitably it either doesn't get finished or it does but lacks any quality.

But when people you don't know start taking an interest you know you've got something good.

 

The screening is the 26th, plus we have a private screening on the 16th.

 

I didn't even see the Helsinki guy. I had edited for about 14 hours the day before with a one hour break and i didn't want to see the footage/hears the sounds again!

 

Weren't told we needed a rough cut till Wednesday but we didn't rush and made a decent job of it in the end.

 

Rumours have been flying round too ,which is good!

 

Apparently our budget was £14k when it was really £2-3k!

 

So the on set crew have done well!

[Guest alex]

Park is a silver spooner. FACT!

Exactly - his 'advice' isn't quite the same when you consider that, is it?

[Guest alex]

Gold already this thread btw.

[Guest Patrokles]

We'l see how the internet thing takes off but still a brick and mortar store is superior.

 

It's all about trying the instrument, My Les Paul cost me £1k, i tried about 12 to 15 guitars before I bought it and it was the best. I was willing to spend a maximum of £2.5k and in the end i didn't have to. A lot of guitarists do the same but i will have to research internet sales of up market guitars, however i think it will confirm what i already know.

 

The last guitar i bough was an Ibanez at £600 in november, i must have been in the shop for two hours before i dedcided i was taking it.

 

It's all relative to individual products and customers needs. Guitar buying is more cup of tea/relax than a simple click on Amazon.

 

 

Aye but surely what anyone would/should do is go to a shop and try them out then see if they can get the same model cheaper on the net?

 

Clueless.

[Guest BigThompers]

We'l see how the internet thing takes off but still a brick and mortar store is superior.

 

It's all about trying the instrument, My Les Paul cost me £1k, i tried about 12 to 15 guitars before I bought it and it was the best. I was willing to spend a maximum of £2.5k and in the end i didn't have to. A lot of guitarists do the same but i will have to research internet sales of up market guitars, however i think it will confirm what i already know.

 

The last guitar i bough was an Ibanez at £600 in november, i must have been in the shop for two hours before i dedcided i was taking it.

 

It's all relative to individual products and customers needs. Guitar buying is more cup of tea/relax than a simple click on Amazon.

 

 

Aye but surely what anyone would/should do is go to a shop and try them out then see if they can get the same model cheaper on the net?

 

Clueless.

 

Patronizing wanker SHOCKER from Verlaine

[Tom 13830]

Gold already this thread btw.

 

Aye.

 

It's a bit more long term than that though