Snake 0 Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 No Owen again - always the case that hes out for 3 times more matches than originally hoped. Back for villa though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonGoodwyn 1 Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 No Owen again - always the case that hes out for 3 times more matches than originally hoped. Back for villa though He 'Hopes' he is. He was 50/50 for the city match Viduka out for another 6 weeks as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1892 0 Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 No Owen again - always the case that hes out for 3 times more matches than originally hoped. Back for villa though He 'Hopes' he is. He was 50/50 for the city match Viduka out for another 6 weeks as well What's he done this time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Butt is out Just Taylor & Duff to go The best bit of Saturday was having a bench of players who've had more than 20 games between them. Half of them weren't match fit, but it bodes well for a time when they all could be. Realstic first teamer injuries are down to Owen, Viduka and Butt (only doubful) now (Smith doesn't count any more). Players like Taylor and Duff are far better than Edgar and Doninger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offshore Toon 0 Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 I think we'll win, despite West Brom being a solid outfit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggy99 0 Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 (edited) team should be: ...................given beye col bassong enrique .........gez © barton zog guti....................................martins ...................ameobi subs: harper taylor cacapa guthrie duff xisco ranger Edited October 27, 2008 by triggy99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrossthepond 699 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Newcastle from: Given, Harper, Beye, Edgar, Enrique, N'Zogbia, Taylor, Coloccini, Cacapa, Bassong, Tozer, Guthrie, Geremi, Duff, Barton, Jonas, Doninger, Xisco, Ameobi, Martins, Carroll, Donaldson, Ranger, Danquah. West Brom from: Carson, Kiely, Zuiverloon, Hoefkens, Barnett, Donk, Olsson, Robinson, Cech, Morrison, Greening, Koren, Valero, Brunt, Miller, Bednar, Moore, Slusarski, MacDonald, Pele. On paper we should overwhelm them. Their squad has barely any Premier League quality. To be frank we should absolutely terrorise a back line including players like Zuiverloon, Hoefkens, Barnett, Donk, Robinson, "Pele." ...but this is Newcastle United. Anything can and will happen. GK: Given RB: Beye CB: Coloccini CB: Taylor LB: Enrique RW: Jonas LW: Zog CM: Barton CM: Guthrie FC: Ameobi ST: Martins We need Ameobi behind Martins. Loads of time against Sunderland Martins produced a good pass for Ameobi to run on to...but he's Ameobi. It should be the other way round if we're ever going to make use of Martins' primary asset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgarfan 0 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 hardly a 'must win' at this point in the season.....more like a 'really would be good to win'. game is on here in canada in the middle of the day...thankful for the ol' PVR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 1 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 I think we can afford to lose this and several other games this season. I mean we lost seventeen last year and stopped up, so a sixth loss wouldn't be the end of the world. It really is a nice to win game for me. This HAS to be a win game to lose this one will demoralise the players. To lose games on the trot like we are is like running in sand hard as fuck to get anywhere. A win is a step in the right direction to lose is another step towards the championship I think Alex's response was a bit more level headed. To call it MUST WIN suggests we should all just give up if we happen to get a draw. If we cant win this game, then what games DO we have a realistic chance of winning. Thats what makes this a must win The ones against Spurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1115 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 I think we can afford to lose this and several other games this season. I mean we lost seventeen last year and stopped up, so a sixth loss wouldn't be the end of the world. It really is a nice to win game for me. This HAS to be a win game to lose this one will demoralise the players. To lose games on the trot like we are is like running in sand hard as fuck to get anywhere. A win is a step in the right direction to lose is another step towards the championship I think Alex's response was a bit more level headed. To call it MUST WIN suggests we should all just give up if we happen to get a draw. If we cant win this game, then what games DO we have a realistic chance of winning. Thats what makes this a must win It doesn't work like that though does it. Hull beat Arsenal, but that doesn't guarantee they'll beat everyone outside the top 4. I think people are dwelling a bit much on defeat off the mackems (which is always a coin toss). Drawing against Everton and Man City before that weren't bad results (both of whom weren't too shoddy over the weekend) and I'm very confident of getting something here, but I won't be throwing a wobbly if we don't. But we aren't beating anyone at the moment though are we. And obviously if we keep struggling against the weaker teams we aren't going to expect to beat the better teams are we. And this isn't me panicing after Saturdays loss, I agree entirely with what you are saying about that. And I agree we've shown a lot more in recent games so I am confident we will get a win tonight but I still think we have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 hardly a 'must win' at this point in the season.....more like a 'really would be good to win'. game is on here in canada in the middle of the day...thankful for the ol' PVR. We are haemorrhaging points, but really that's just a symptom. The cause is the club being in limbo. We're not in must win situation, but we're really in a must be sold fucking soon situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2bias 3 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 i think we will win this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 I think we can afford to lose this and several other games this season. I mean we lost seventeen last year and stopped up, so a sixth loss wouldn't be the end of the world. It really is a nice to win game for me. This HAS to be a win game to lose this one will demoralise the players. To lose games on the trot like we are is like running in sand hard as fuck to get anywhere. A win is a step in the right direction to lose is another step towards the championship I think Alex's response was a bit more level headed. To call it MUST WIN suggests we should all just give up if we happen to get a draw. If we cant win this game, then what games DO we have a realistic chance of winning. Thats what makes this a must win It doesn't work like that though does it. Hull beat Arsenal, but that doesn't guarantee they'll beat everyone outside the top 4. I think people are dwelling a bit much on defeat off the mackems (which is always a coin toss). Drawing against Everton and Man City before that weren't bad results (both of whom weren't too shoddy over the weekend) and I'm very confident of getting something here, but I won't be throwing a wobbly if we don't. But we aren't beating anyone at the moment though are we. And obviously if we keep struggling against the weaker teams we aren't going to expect to beat the better teams are we. And this isn't me panicing after Saturdays loss, I agree entirely with what you are saying about that. And I agree we've shown a lot more in recent games so I am confident we will get a win tonight but I still think we have to. There was no struggle whatsoever while Keegan was here, then it all kicked off and we lost four in a row, understandably imo, we were a rudderless ship and 3 of those 4 finished above us last year. They're not weaker teams Kinnear hasn't done a bad job at all of steadying us since his arrival. Draws against another 2 teams who finished above us last year, after going behind, was an excellent start. The derby is a lottery, and people are overreacting to their dissappointment if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBass 2181 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 I think we can afford to lose this and several other games this season. I mean we lost seventeen last year and stopped up, so a sixth loss wouldn't be the end of the world. It really is a nice to win game for me. This HAS to be a win game to lose this one will demoralise the players. To lose games on the trot like we are is like running in sand hard as fuck to get anywhere. A win is a step in the right direction to lose is another step towards the championship I think Alex's response was a bit more level headed. To call it MUST WIN suggests we should all just give up if we happen to get a draw. If we cant win this game, then what games DO we have a realistic chance of winning. Thats what makes this a must win The ones against Spurs. Like the cup game you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1115 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 I think we can afford to lose this and several other games this season. I mean we lost seventeen last year and stopped up, so a sixth loss wouldn't be the end of the world. It really is a nice to win game for me. This HAS to be a win game to lose this one will demoralise the players. To lose games on the trot like we are is like running in sand hard as fuck to get anywhere. A win is a step in the right direction to lose is another step towards the championship I think Alex's response was a bit more level headed. To call it MUST WIN suggests we should all just give up if we happen to get a draw. If we cant win this game, then what games DO we have a realistic chance of winning. Thats what makes this a must win It doesn't work like that though does it. Hull beat Arsenal, but that doesn't guarantee they'll beat everyone outside the top 4. I think people are dwelling a bit much on defeat off the mackems (which is always a coin toss). Drawing against Everton and Man City before that weren't bad results (both of whom weren't too shoddy over the weekend) and I'm very confident of getting something here, but I won't be throwing a wobbly if we don't. But we aren't beating anyone at the moment though are we. And obviously if we keep struggling against the weaker teams we aren't going to expect to beat the better teams are we. And this isn't me panicing after Saturdays loss, I agree entirely with what you are saying about that. And I agree we've shown a lot more in recent games so I am confident we will get a win tonight but I still think we have to. There was no struggle whatsoever while Keegan was here, then it all kicked off and we lost four in a row, understandably imo, we were a rudderless ship and 3 of those 4 finished above us last year. They're not weaker teams Kinnear hasn't done a bad job at all of steadying us since his arrival. Draws against another 2 teams who finished above us last year, after going behind, was an excellent start. The derby is a lottery, and people are overreacting to their dissappointment if you ask me. This is irrelevent though if you as me. The facts are this, we are second bottom of the league and haven't won a league game since our opening home game (and in that time we have lost not just against the top teams but also teams that are no great shakes at all). I'm not saying we are going down or that we are still the mess that we quite clearly were in the imediate aftermath of KK's departure. But we do need to start picking up points against weaker teams because it's bound to be harder when we play those who you expect to be at the top come May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 133 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Newcastle manager Joe Kinnear has confirmed midfielder Joey Barton will start his first match since being released from jail against West Brom. He will replace Nicky Butt who has a groin injury, while striker Michael Owen (groin) is also out. West Brom winger Chris Brunt could be recalled with manager Tony Mowbray considering a five-man midfield. Central defender Abdoulaye Meite (calf) and midfielders Filipe Teixeira (calf) and Kim Do-Heon (knee) are both out. Newcastle (from): Given, Harper, Beye, Edgar, Enrique, N'Zogbia, Taylor, Coloccini, Cacapa, Bassong, Tozer, Guthrie, Geremi, Duff, Barton, Jonas, Doninger, Xisco, Ameobi, Martins, Carroll, Donaldson, Ranger, Danquah. West Brom (from): Carson, Kiely, Zuiverloon, Hoefkens, Barnett, Donk, Olsson, Robinson, Cech, Morrison, Greening, Koren, Valero, Brunt, Miller, Bednar, Moore, Slusarski, MacDonald, Pele. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teed 0 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 2 - 0 to tha TOooooooooon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 16467 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 I have a feeling were going to win this. Barton has to graft like fuck and get the fans back on his side. With jonas back too its all good. 3-0 Barton scoring the first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 This is irrelevent though if you as me. The facts are this, we are second bottom of the league and haven't won a league game since our opening home game (and in that time we have lost not just against the top teams but also teams that are no great shakes at all).I'm not saying we are going down or that we are still the mess that we quite clearly were in the imediate aftermath of KK's departure. But we do need to start picking up points against weaker teams because it's bound to be harder when we play those who you expect to be at the top come May. We would ALWAYS hope to be taking points off weaker teams, but it never pans out that way. As it is though, the only team arguably weaker than us we've actually lost to this season is Sunderland. That being the derby is an odd one to call and you can never expect the 3 points from it. This is the first game I'd say we should expect to win since Bolton, and I think we will. I'm not such a knee jerker to say we must win or the end is nigh though. I mean, what's the 'or else' if we don't win the must win game? Sack Kinnear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 16467 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Aye, just think of the Derby games last season; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8936 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Got me a bad feeling about this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Besty 4 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Got me a bad feeling about this... Shut up you, we're going to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2bias 3 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Aye, just think of the Derby games last season; shut up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stevie Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 2-2 draw 40,928 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13804 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Yeah I don't think there will be many there tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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