Fat waste of space, tactically inept cabbage head Steve Bruce sacked by Newcastle United

[Tdansmith 2068]

44 minutes ago, ewerk said:

Is Luke Edwards at it again?

 

 

"Some good friends at NUFC.."

I reckon he has two, a fat obnoxious cockney cunt who loves money and another fat greedy cunt who has no integrity and loves pies.

[Alex 30239]

57 minutes ago, Rayvin said:

He's definitely reinventing himself as a provocateur here. There's no reason to get suckered into this shit as often as he does otherwise.

He should try reinventing himself as a credible journalist. 

[Alex 30239]

56 minutes ago, Tdansmith said:

"Some good friends at NUFC.."

I reckon he has two, a fat obnoxious cockney cunt who loves money and another fat greedy cunt who has no integrity and loves pies.

He’s on about at True Faith. 

[Tdansmith 2068]

1 hour ago, Alex said:

He’s on about at True Faith. 

Arrrh right.

My point still stands 

[Kid Dynamite 5882]

His response to True Faith taking the piss out of him “not watching” any match we get hammered in 

 

 

 

Edited July 15, 2020 by Kid Dynamite

[Dr Gloom 19735]

Nurse!

[Sonatine 9940]

I think we're past the intervention stage now, and have moved on to getting him sectioned.

 

[Alex 30239]

53 minutes ago, Tdansmith said:

Arrrh right.

My point still stands 

 aye 

[OTF 6129]

3 hours ago, Howay said:

 I know it’s been said on here before but it really is staggering that he is essentially constantly attacking his target readership. 

 

He's caught in an any interaction is good loop that has the net result of presenting his intelligence and social awareness being on par with an early teenage troll.

[Sonatine 9940]

4 wins since Christmas Day?  But Manager of the Year material according to some of his mates in the media  

[Monkeys Fist 38556]

To be fair though, if any year had Brewcie’s name on it, it’d be 2020. 

[Alex 30239]

Replies disabled again, Luke? 

[Isegrim 8868]

4 hours ago, Kid Dynamite said:

His response to True Faith taking the piss out of him “not watching” any match we get hammered in 

 

 

 

Ah, all the well known in-depth coverage of the clubs in the north west and the lakes...

[Kitman 2188]

The best you can say for Bruce is that he’s utterly mediocre. It’s hardly a vindication for Bruce’s supporters that he’s taken us from a mediocre position last year to a mediocre position this year. His record shows that’s all he’s capable of at his best. At his worst he will get us relegated. Unless you think we don’t deserve any better then I don’t know why anyone would want another year of Bruce.

[Sonatine 9940]

 

Yep, no excuses there Brewcey.  What a fucking turd of a man he is.

[Isegrim 8868]

I wonder who kept banging about having more points than last season as a benchmark...

[wykikitoon 16492]

That screen shot of the stats that was posted up, I had a look this morning and updated them

 

Old Stats

Goals - 24 - 19th

xG 21.02 - 20th

Shots - 247 - 20th

Opposition Box Touches - 370 - 20th

Possession - 34.3% - 20th

 

Updated

Goals - 37 - 16th

xG 35.22 - 19h

Shots - 384 - 16th

Opposition Box Touches - 688 - 16th

Possession - 42.1% - 20th

 

So slight improvement in some, but still fucking dire and still relegation material for next season if we stick with this clueless cunt and owners.

[The Fish 8947]

36 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

That screen shot of the stats that was posted up, I had a look this morning and updated them

 

Old Stats

Goals - 24 - 19th

xG 21.02 - 20th

Shots - 247 - 20th

Opposition Box Touches - 370 - 20th

Possession - 34.3% - 20th

 

Updated

Goals - 37 - 16th

xG 35.22 - 19h

Shots - 384 - 16th

Opposition Box Touches - 688 - 16th

Possession - 42.1% - 20th

 

So slight improvement in some, but still fucking dire and still relegation material for next season if we stick with this clueless cunt and owners.

 

To be fair, after the Southampton game we've improved our xG significantly; 9.3 (7th)

Can't find date limited stats for the others.

 

xGA is still 20th (13.27)

G 5th (12)

GA 18th (14)

 

Edited July 16, 2020 by The Fish

[sammynb 2929]

2 hours ago, Isegrim said:

I wonder who kept banging about having more points than last season as a benchmark...

 

@Howmanheyman any chance of hoying the article up so we can be as clever as Luke cantankerous Edwards?

[Howmanheyman 26605]

@sammynb

 

"Agonisingly close, yet also frustratingly far away. That magical 46-point mark is still within sight.

Newcastle United are three points short of that magnificent milestone. True, that has been the case for the past 10 days but three successive defeats and a ballooning injury list have seen a tantalising tally which, at one stage, looked inevitable appear eminently unattainable.

But, in their remaining fixtures at Brighton and Hove Albion and at home against Liverpool, the champions, Newcastle must accrue those final three points. Otherwise, this season has been an indisputable write-off.

That is how it has been portrayed by some, at least. For reasons passing comprehension, the “success” or otherwise of Newcastle’s entire campaign is dependent upon them reaching that target.

Why an arbitrary 46 points, I hear you ask?

Well, because that is one more than last season’s tally under Rafa Benitez. So, as well as facing the other 19 Premier League teams this season, Steve Bruce’s Newcastle are also, in the eyes of some, fighting against the 2018-19 incarnation of themselves.

This is, of course, ludicrous. Even if Newcastle as a club does so often appear to be wrestling with itself, the barometer for progress should not be a painstaking comparison between the current and former managers.

The debate that has raged about whether Bruce’s Newcastle are better than Benitez’s Newcastle has become as tedious as it is pointless. It is almost as wearisome as the interminable takeover saga, which continues to leave the club in damaging stasis.

There is no Bruce vs Benitez. There is no Newcastle United Mk. 2019-20 vs Newcastle United Mk. 2018-19. Or at least there shouldn’t be. It isn’t, and shouldn’t be, that superficial.

It is Newcastle United against the rest of the league, most specifically those teams immediately above and below them — just as it was last season and is during every campaign.

But that is not been how it has been presented in some quarters, by those pundits, including Sam Allardyce, Chris Sutton and Jamie Redknapp, who seem determined to compare them at every possible juncture. This season-long debate was frustrating to begin with and, as it has continued across the course of a campaign that has lasted almost a year, it has become thoroughly exasperating.

Does it really matter if Newcastle finish with 43 points? Or 46 points? Or 49 points? Other than a few million in prize money here and there, it is almost utterly meaningless.

Will this season really be viewed as a success or a failure depending on whether Newcastle better last season’s points tally or position? No, it will not and it should not.

For a start, it is a completely false economy. Points are compared between seasons but they are only one measure — and, to be perfectly honest, they are a fairly poor one at that.

In 2001-02, when Newcastle finished fourth under Sir Bobby Robson and qualified for the Champions League, they accrued 71 points. The following season, they picked up two fewer, with 69, yet they finished a position higher in third. So which was the better campaign?

When Newcastle finished fifth in 2003-04, they did so with just 56 points. But, under Alan Pardew, they ended the 2011-12 season nine points better off with 65 points — yet that still only saw them finish fifth.

This season, Liverpool could end with fewer than the 97 points they reached when they finished second last year. But this time, they have won the title at a canter. It is impossible to solely use points alone as a metric to contrast one campaign against another. It is, to an extent, irrational and even counterproductive.

Now, this is certainly not intended to denigrate anyone at the club who uses an increased points haul — or a desire to better last season — as internal motivation. Far from it.

That is exactly what should happen. Every club, and members of staff within them, should strive for constant self-improvement. Newcastle are coming towards the end of their third season back in the Premier League and so they should, in theory, be better than last year and the year before that.

But this is not a normal club. The Mike Ashley regime have never given off the impression that they themselves hold such aspirations of advancement. Survival seems to suffice, even if they have failed even to achieve that twice. However, the coaching staff and the players certainly do want to progress. Bruce himself reiterated again this week that his goal is to “take the club forward” and that is what now needs to happen.

Bruce, his coaching staff and players deserve credit for comfortably keeping a team many feared would be relegation fodder in the Premier League.

It was chaotic at Newcastle last summer once Benitez departed and he was followed by Salomon Rondon and Ayoze Perez, who between them, scored 54.8 per cent of Newcastle’s 42 Premier League goals in 2018-19. And, although £65 million was spent on four permanent signings, £40 million of that was lavished on Joelinton, a forward whose head coach even admits feels “more comfortable” out wide and is “not a natural goalscorer”.

The only recruit made over the past 12 months who has undoubtedly improved the starting XI is Allan Saint-Maximin, who has injected pace, excitement and, recently, end product into this Newcastle side.

It has been anything but aesthetically pleasing — for most of the season, the football has been painful on the eyes — but the ends have, to an extent, justified the means. Belatedly, Bruce has even tried to evolve Newcastle’s style. In the deflating context of what Newcastle have become under Ashley, that warrants recognition.

That does not mean this season has been a “success”, just as last year was not a “success” and nor, particularly, was the 10th-placed finish in 2017-18, either.

In fact, Newcastle, who are 13th with 43 points after a 3-1 defeat to Tottenham Hotspur which left them with an injury-ravaged squad and two fixtures merely left to fulfil, are pretty much on course to finish off what will be yet another indifferent season under a regime that appears content with mediocrity.

Across the 10 full Premier League campaigns throughout Ashley tenure, Newcastle’s average finishing position is 12.9th in the table, with 44.3 points. A middle-of-the-road return for what, under Ashley, has become a middle-of-the-road, survival-will-do football club.

Some fans have even come to ask the question of: “What is the purpose of Newcastle United under Mike Ashley?” If 46 points this season really is the zenith that it has been portrayed, then Newcastle United really are going through an existential crisis."

 

Chris 'I survived Ryder' Waugh.

 

[Howmanheyman 26605]

I tell you what though, shades of carver and pardew teams in the goals going in and the manner of them. It's almost as if the longer the side don't have Benitez on their case, the more calamitous the goals?

[sammynb 2929]

Cheers HMHM.

[Kevin Carr's Gloves 3181]

I thought that was a shit article tbh.

[Ayatollah Hermione 12736]

 He’s a bit of a Netto Caulkin, like.

[Howmanheyman 26605]

13 minutes ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said:

I thought that was a shit article tbh.

 

It was so-so. 

 

"Shades of Ryder, there! Absolutely jumping in Thomson house! Meat and drink for Chris Waugh! Wibble."