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I guess it comes down to whether you think Bruce is adding any positives at all to the team. For me, he's taking a team of players and somehow managing to make them less than the sum of their parts. As such, getting rid of him means that we at least won't be any worse than we already are, and might even get a bit better.

 

If he's managing the club and getting pelters from all angles of the stadium, he's going to start phoning it in more than he already is, looking for the sack.

 

He just adds nothing, at least as far as I can see.

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I know we're all celebrating but no matter what you think of him he's a human being. Yes we all know he'll a useless cunt but to go through months of abuse and then receive this crushing news this mor

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Just now, Ayatollah Hermione said:

I think the fact he’s taking training today and not giving them a day off is a sign that something they’ve said to him yesterday has sunk in somewhere. The way I see it is that they’re probably going to have a couple of meetings with him to see what ideas, if any he has about improving the squad and training ground etc. He’s still a contracted employee, may as well see if he has any ounce of a good idea in him.

 

Aye. There's every chance he was as jaded by being an Ashley employee as anyone else. I'm not under any illusion that he's about to become a competent manager, but maybe they can get him operating on at least a more motivated level for a week or two. Listen to the bloke, fix some things that he calls out as issues, and you might just get him a bit engaged. 

 

THEN. Then you sack the cunt. 

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2 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

 

The point is that there's no guarantee of a replacement in a few weeks. That's the unknown part of the equation. What if it becomes 6 weeks and we're still losing games and our preferred candidate starts blowing hot and cold, or worse pulls out altogether? 

 

I totally get that people want Bruce out, and I don't think we've got a moment to waste, but it's finding a replacement that is the real matter of urgency, not just sacking the current bloke. 

Yeah I get what you're saying but what benefit do you see in sticking with him?  If we aren't able to get a top target in a matter of a couple of weeks and we stick with Bruce until Christmas or whatever, are we likely to be better off that we would be getting shot of him and having Jones as caretaker until then?  Personally I think just no having Bruce will at least give the hope of a bounce.  I can't see him being able to turn things around himself.  We all know from actually watching the games rather than just looking at the results, that any upturns in form that we've seen in spells over the last two season have been down to luck and brilliance from individuals, rather than anything he has done to positively influence things.

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Seems to me like I'm Keegan about to get world beating performances out of a bloke we all know isn't good enough. And you lot are Joe Kinnear, farting into your own hands and forcing the players to smell it. 

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1 minute ago, David Kelly said:

Yeah I get what you're saying but what benefit do you see in sticking with him?  If we aren't able to get a top target in a matter of a couple of weeks and we stick with Bruce until Christmas or whatever, are we likely to be better off that we would be getting shot of him and having Jones as caretaker until then?  Personally I think just no having Bruce will at least give the hope of a bounce.  I can't see him being able to turn things around himself.  We all know from actually watching the games rather than just looking at the results, that any upturns in form that we've seen in spells over the last two season have been down to luck and brilliance from individuals, rather than anything he has done to positively influence things.

 

I'm not suggesting Christmas or giving him a chance to turn things around. He absolutely has to go. But I can fully understand if the new owners want to at least make some progress on talking to a potential replacement first. 

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I’m sure the new owners have inherited an absolutely shambolic corporate structure that is taking some working through as well. If we’re so understaffed on the playing side, imagine the other departments. Charnley was pretty much overseeing every single area, no wonder it was a nightmare

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3 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

 

I'm not suggesting Christmas or giving him a chance to turn things around. He absolutely has to go. But I can fully understand if the new owners want to at least make some progress on talking to a potential replacement first. 

I can understand them wanting to do that, and while I also agree that they might want, and probably need, to get some information from him about the squad etc, I think it will be a massive mistake to have him in charge on Sunday.  And leaving it too long between now and then only makes it harder for Jones to prepare the team.

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If results go against us this weekend with Bruce in charge, we could be cut adrift . Plus I'd imagine the crowd would quickly turn very toxic towards Bruce if Spurs knock in an early goal. Get rid off him now & give Jones a go until there real target manager is sorted 

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Don't like the idea of Brendan Rodgers taking charge, but as stated before on the thread, the new owners will need time to strip out the old regime and install a more professional operation. So a decent manager and what looks like the beginnings of a decent spine of the team for signings I'm happy enough. Steve Bruce, although I have nothing personal against him, just strikes me as a wetwipe. 

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18 minutes ago, Ayatollah Hermione said:

I’m sure the new owners have inherited an absolutely shambolic corporate structure that is taking some working through as well. If we’re so understaffed on the playing side, imagine the other departments. Charnley was pretty much overseeing every single area, no wonder it was a nightmare

 

Don't they want to keep Charnley on though? I'm sure I read something to that effect. I could maybe, just about, see the logic in that on the basis that I guess they do need some manner of continuity so that they can tackle the day to day operational challenges without needing to reinvent the wheel. 

 

I suppose we just have to hope that they know what they're doing, but Bruce being in charge for our next game would set off alarm bells for me. And we'd get fucking stomped as well, which isn't how I'd want to start the new era personally.

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13 minutes ago, Rayvin said:

 

Don't they want to keep Charnley on though? I'm sure I read something to that effect. I could maybe, just about, see the logic in that on the basis that I guess they do need some manner of continuity so that they can tackle the day to day operational challenges without needing to reinvent the wheel. 

 

I suppose we just have to hope that they know what they're doing, but Bruce being in charge for our next game would set off alarm bells for me. And we'd get fucking stomped as well, which isn't how I'd want to start the new era personally.


Charnley has basically been the sole operator at board room level for about 5 years, he has to be part of the transition since he’ll have to tell them the crack, introduce them all to the different departments and probably, very swiftly, be demoted or given a hefty redundancy. 

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3 minutes ago, Ayatollah Hermione said:


Charnley has basically been the sole operator at board room level for about 5 years, he has to be part of the transition since he’ll have to tell them the crack, introduce them all to the different departments and probably, very swiftly, be demoted or given a hefty redundancy. 

Probably have to show them were he keeps his crayons & collection of paper planes Ashley made him pick up from SJP the other week

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