Monroe Transfer 0 Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 (edited) Haye is so obnoxious. If the fight is anywhere near as entertaining as all this pre-fight buildup then we're in for an absolute classic. Edited June 19, 2011 by Tecato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 'Absolute classic'? It's not going to be a Ali vs Frazier mate, it's fucking Haye and Klitchko. It's funny how Haye keeps going on about Wladimir's fights being dull, the Harrison fight was one of the most abject sporting (and I use that word lightly) events I've ever witnessed. Thankfully I wasn't dumb enough to pay to watch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 To be fair I said if the fight happened to be as entertaining to me as the buildup, then it might be a classic. Chances of it actually being that good are pretty minimal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Aye I'm not having a go at you, just annoys me how much hype fights like Haye vs Valuev and Harrison got. Absolutely abysmal. The fact that this is the biggest draw other than Floyd vs Manny is an indicator of how poor boxing is atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 At least Haye is worth talking about/charismatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 His fights are absolute awful, which is what you're paying for if you buy a PPV with him on. If he's just going to be a guy doing funny schtick he should go into standup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5904 Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 How the fuck can you say a guy with 26 fights, 25 wins and 23 KOs is a boring fighter!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 (edited) Care to run through a list of his stellar opponents J69? Oh that's right, there aren't any. I'll see you outside in the main forums. The question should be how the fuck can you say a guy who fought Audley Harrison and Valuev in two of the dullest fights in recent memory--the Harrison fight didn't even border on a farce, it was an absolute embarrassment and the pair of them should be ashamed--isn't a boring fighter? He would not have been considered a good boxer in any era that had a mildly competitive heavyweight division; the fact that he is a big draw reflects the state of the sport (at a very low ebb) and the fact that British fans will buy into him and give him a level of attention and support a boxer of his calibre isn't worthy of. I have to admire his skills of self-promotion though, he is an entertaining presence outside of the ring, just a shame he can't match that level of entertainment during actual fights. Edited June 19, 2011 by Kevin S. Assilleekunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5904 Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 When has there ever been a huge number of great fighters in the heavyweight division? He has beaten everyone put in front of him. Hardly his fault he wasn't born 40 years earlier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 It is a particularly poor era for heavyweights though. Not Haye's fault like but America just isn't producing good heavyweight fighters any more. Probably a society thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 It is a particularly poor era for heavyweights though. Not Haye's fault like but America just isn't producing good heavyweight fighters any more. Probably a society thing. Maybe a lot of them are moving into different sports, MMA/kick-boxing etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 (edited) When has there ever been a huge number of great fighters in the heavyweight division? He has beaten everyone put in front of him. Hardly his fault he wasn't born 40 years earlier There's never been a 'huge number of great fighters' in any division at one time. You're being dumb again. I thought you were smarter than this. Edited June 20, 2011 by Kevin S. Assilleekunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13836 Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Hope haye gets the fuck knocked out of him tbh Same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetleftpeg 0 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I hate to say this but I really like Klitschko..he's really good craic, especially loving his spot on Borat impression and his 'shake my hand' antics. As much as I'm always gunning for the Brit and don't mind Haye, I really wouldn't be that arsed if Klitschko did him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 4849 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I hope Haye wins. He comes across well in non-boxing interviews. Its just a show for the cameras when he is acting like a dick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 What's Butterbean doing these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5904 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Hope haye gets the fuck knocked out of him tbh Same. Any particular reason? We have a Brit who has the chance of being the best at the world at something and we hope he gets beat He uses the hype machine to sell fights. Ali made Haye look shy and retiring and people are still up his arse 40 years later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooner 243 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Hope haye gets the fuck knocked out of him tbh Same. Any particular reason? We have a Brit who has the chance of being the best at the world at something and we hope he gets beat He uses the hype machine to sell fights. Ali made Haye look shy and retiring and people are still up his arse 40 years later. you should really wash your mouth out with soap......comparing Ali and Haye ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Either J69 is on the windup, or he's thick. The Ali comparison Fucking hell. J69 you're an absolute plum. As for 'being the best in the world at something', at the moment it'd be like winning 'the tallest dwarf competition'; personally I don't wish any harm to Haye, but I expect the fight to be dull given the quality of the two boxers. They'll be fighting for the WBA, WBO, IBF, IBO and The Ring heavyweight titles, and that still isn't all the major titles in the heavyweight division. All those titles and not one great champion, it just shows how much the sport has declined, particularly that division. The 2nd biggest fight that can be made after Money vs Pacman atm, and neither boxer is even approaching a world-class standard compared to the champions of the past. When I see the numbskulls who think the likes of Haye and Hatton are 'great boxers', it calls to mind the louts who were saying the same of Alan Minter when he got the shite beaten out of him by Hagler and started a riot. Absolute mongs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5904 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 (edited) Hope haye gets the fuck knocked out of him tbh Same. Any particular reason? We have a Brit who has the chance of being the best at the world at something and we hope he gets beat He uses the hype machine to sell fights. Ali made Haye look shy and retiring and people are still up his arse 40 years later. Ali wasn't average, it's grand to blow you're own trumpet like your one of the greatest to ever grace boxing when you actually are. Ali lost 5 and had to go the distance in 19. Haye has lost 1 and gone the distance 3 times. Did any of you watch Ali in his prime or have you just seen reruns of his 2-3 best fights through his entire careeer? Edited June 22, 2011 by J69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 surely a windup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5904 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I'm not claiming Haye is better than Ali by the way. Just pointing out the silliness in the argument that Haye is overrated/boring/should lose etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I'm not claiming Haye is better than Ali by the way. Just pointing out the silliness in the argument that Haye is overrated/boring/should lose etc. You're really not. Haye is overrated by British boxing fans, just as Hatton was and several others have been. Haye is boring: the fights against Valuev and Harrison rank amongst the worst I've personally seen and were given tremendous hype because Haye is overrated. The only thing you're succeeding in doing is making yourself look like a clueless idiot who doesn't know when he's wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5904 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 He beat Harrison with the first flurry of punches he threw man, Harrison only landed 2 or 3 punches in the entire fight. Haye also took Valuevs belt off him after the guy had lost 1 decision in 51 fights. Again, you are calling Haye boring for executing a gameplan against Valuev and pulling it off flawlessly Again, did you see Ali fight? He lost in the 15th round to Frazer. In the rematch Ali ran away from him for 7 rounds (Haye/Valuev anyone???). It took him another 15 rounds to beat Wepner and 14 to beat Frazer again. If finishing fights makes you exciting then Ali was far from it. 13 of his last 20 title fights went to a decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5904 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Plenty. I'm still waiting for a decent argument as to why Haye is boring/rubbish. Other than just 'cos I say he is'. 2 decisions in 26 fights says otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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