Wages are the core of our demise.

[Fop 1]

Administration isn't going to happen.

 

You'd have to hope so, but loses can still force it, even to a club owned like ours. Especially with someone like Ashley who probably enjoys high speed drunk driving on alpine roads in a car flooded with water and filled with piranha and nitroglycerine as a relaxing evening out.

[Park Life 70]

My gut feeling is that we have never had continuity or any kind of bluprint or structure (no boot room) no alliances with Euro clubs with regard to scouting etc...The underlying issues are huge. Over the last decade people in power have just been lazy.

 

In all honesty maybe we didn't need it with the likes of Keegan, Daglish and Robson, they probably were scouting networks on their own to a degree.

 

But the lack of youth development (local and imported) and scouting is plain ridiculous (it's not like Fergy or Wenger is personally searching out young players he likes the look of).

 

And stability.... how much different would things be looking now in just that context if Keegan had stayed.

 

 

 

 

Which is the one good thing at the moment if the Shearer rumours are true, 4 year contract. Of course that assumes he isn't sacked (or isn't just rubbish).

 

 

I agee, the lack of scouting has aggravated the bad buy huge wage cycle.

[Park Life 70]

Nicos the cycle is bigger than that IMO. There seems to be an underlying disadvantage we have which we didn't have under KK 2, then it was cause we did buy some good players and basically outspent the competition, which we can no longer do. I don't think as Leazes does it just comes down to getting a good manager, the problem is bigger and more underlying...Whether it's location or lack of success it has been with us for a while.

 

The mind boggles that we couldn't compete with the likes of Fulham and Wigan.

 

It helps to have a manager you don't have to sack after they've blown your wad on their shite players. We've ripped it up and started again half a dozen times since the stability of SBR

 

Of course by default that is a case for a DOF.

 

Or not fucking up in appointing a manager. Again and again and again.

 

 

Again, even with a goodish manager and had we still been in the PL we were probably about 8th choice for a player in this league and about 30th choice for a player if clubs of similar standing in Euro are taken into account.

 

Yes, but Rome wasn't built in a day. Unless you're Chelsea. What's wrong with stability and steady improvement?

 

We've had the whole of the PL time to build Rome.

[Guest alex]

Let's sunset that now. We need a thought grenade, etc.

[Kitman 2188]

My gut feeling is that we have never had continuity or any kind of bluprint or structure (no boot room) no alliances with Euro clubs with regard to scouting etc...The underlying issues are huge. Over the last decade people in power have just been lazy.

 

In all honesty maybe we didn't need it with the likes of Keegan, Daglish and Robson, they probably were scouting networks on their own to a degree.

 

But the lack of youth development (local and imported) and scouting is plain ridiculous (it's not like Fergy or Wenger is personally searching out young players he likes the look of).

 

And stability.... how much different would things be looking now in just that context if Keegan had stayed.

 

 

 

 

Which is the one good thing at the moment if the Shearer rumours are true, 4 year contract. Of course that assumes he isn't sacked (or isn't just rubbish).

 

 

I agee, the lack of scouting has aggravated the bad buy huge wage cycle.

 

And the lack of yoof development

[Park Life 70]

Nicos the cycle is bigger than that IMO. There seems to be an underlying disadvantage we have which we didn't have under KK 2, then it was cause we did buy some good players and basically outspent the competition, which we can no longer do. I don't think as Leazes does it just comes down to getting a good manager, the problem is bigger and more underlying...Whether it's location or lack of success it has been with us for a while.

 

The mind boggles that we couldn't compete with the likes of Fulham and Wigan.

 

It helps to have a manager you don't have to sack after they've blown your wad on their shite players. We've ripped it up and started again half a dozen times since the stability of SBR

 

Aye we wouldn't have been relegated with a decent manager that was actually in charge (and not being undermined by Wise et al) that had a bit to spend (or at least could spend what he sold) this season.

 

We'd still have been in the danger zone with wages, but with a non-relegation Premiership finish we should have been able to move on.

 

We're always going to have to pay more because we're not in London (or near it) and not Manchester Utd or Liverpool, but the trick is not paying loads for rubbish (which is what we've become - a place that pays well for other peoples out of date crap).

Although again presently the issue is going to be surviving the wage bill in the Championship, until that's sorted little else matters.

 

 

But this has been endemic and not the fault of one or other regime is my point.

Rubbish. It's the fault of both Shepherd/the Halls and the current regime.

 

Enedemic in the sense there is no easy way round it.

That's different to saying people aren't to blame.

 

The people we find it so easy to blame aren't football people and often with other businesses. It isn't really their fault as such, only in the sense that they didn't hire good advisors.

[Monkeys Fist 38570]

Administration isn't going to happen.

 

You'd have to hope so, but loses can still force it, even to a club owned like ours. Especially with someone like Ashley who probably enjoys high speed drunk driving on alpine roads in a car flooded with water and filled with piranha and nitroglycerine as a relaxing evening out.

[Fop 1]

My gut feeling is that we have never had continuity or any kind of bluprint or structure (no boot room) no alliances with Euro clubs with regard to scouting etc...The underlying issues are huge. Over the last decade people in power have just been lazy.

 

In all honesty maybe we didn't need it with the likes of Keegan, Daglish and Robson, they probably were scouting networks on their own to a degree.

 

But the lack of youth development (local and imported) and scouting is plain ridiculous (it's not like Fergy or Wenger is personally searching out young players he likes the look of).

 

And stability.... how much different would things be looking now in just that context if Keegan had stayed.

 

 

 

 

Which is the one good thing at the moment if the Shearer rumours are true, 4 year contract. Of course that assumes he isn't sacked (or isn't just rubbish).

 

 

I agee, the lack of scouting has aggravated the bad buy huge wage cycle.

 

 

Aye, you'd have to hope that this is something Shearer will sort out, he certainly talks the talk in those sort of respects (and doesn't seem afraid to get people in that know more than him in whatever aspect - which may be the sign of a good manager ).

[Guest alex]

Nicos the cycle is bigger than that IMO. There seems to be an underlying disadvantage we have which we didn't have under KK 2, then it was cause we did buy some good players and basically outspent the competition, which we can no longer do. I don't think as Leazes does it just comes down to getting a good manager, the problem is bigger and more underlying...Whether it's location or lack of success it has been with us for a while.

 

The mind boggles that we couldn't compete with the likes of Fulham and Wigan.

 

It helps to have a manager you don't have to sack after they've blown your wad on their shite players. We've ripped it up and started again half a dozen times since the stability of SBR

 

Aye we wouldn't have been relegated with a decent manager that was actually in charge (and not being undermined by Wise et al) that had a bit to spend (or at least could spend what he sold) this season.

 

We'd still have been in the danger zone with wages, but with a non-relegation Premiership finish we should have been able to move on.

 

We're always going to have to pay more because we're not in London (or near it) and not Manchester Utd or Liverpool, but the trick is not paying loads for rubbish (which is what we've become - a place that pays well for other peoples out of date crap).

Although again presently the issue is going to be surviving the wage bill in the Championship, until that's sorted little else matters.

 

 

But this has been endemic and not the fault of one or other regime is my point.

Rubbish. It's the fault of both Shepherd/the Halls and the current regime.

 

Enedemic in the sense there is no easy way round it.

That's different to saying people aren't to blame.

 

The people we find it so easy to blame aren't football people and often with other businesses. It isn't really their fault as such, only in the sense that they didn't hire good advisors.

Cop-out tbh. Barely a point worth making.

[Monkeys Fist 38570]

My gut feeling is that we have never had continuity or any kind of bluprint or structure (no boot room) no alliances with Euro clubs with regard to scouting etc...The underlying issues are huge. Over the last decade people in power have just been lazy.

 

In all honesty maybe we didn't need it with the likes of Keegan, Daglish and Robson, they probably were scouting networks on their own to a degree.

 

But the lack of youth development (local and imported) and scouting is plain ridiculous (it's not like Fergy or Wenger is personally searching out young players he likes the look of).

 

And stability.... how much different would things be looking now in just that context if Keegan had stayed.

 

 

 

 

Which is the one good thing at the moment if the Shearer rumours are true, 4 year contract. Of course that assumes he isn't sacked (or isn't just rubbish).

 

 

I agee, the lack of scouting has aggravated the bad buy huge wage cycle.

 

 

Aye, you'd have to hope that this is something Shearer will sort out, he certainly talks the talk in those sort of respects (and doesn't seem afraid to get people in that know more than him in whatever aspect - which may be the sign of a good manager ).

Agreed,tho I would say its the starting block of being a good manager.

[Park Life 70]

My gut feeling is that we have never had continuity or any kind of bluprint or structure (no boot room) no alliances with Euro clubs with regard to scouting etc...The underlying issues are huge. Over the last decade people in power have just been lazy.

 

In all honesty maybe we didn't need it with the likes of Keegan, Daglish and Robson, they probably were scouting networks on their own to a degree.

 

But the lack of youth development (local and imported) and scouting is plain ridiculous (it's not like Fergy or Wenger is personally searching out young players he likes the look of).

 

And stability.... how much different would things be looking now in just that context if Keegan had stayed.

 

 

 

 

Which is the one good thing at the moment if the Shearer rumours are true, 4 year contract. Of course that assumes he isn't sacked (or isn't just rubbish).

 

 

I agee, the lack of scouting has aggravated the bad buy huge wage cycle.

 

 

Aye, you'd have to hope that this is something Shearer will sort out, he certainly talks the talk in those sort of respects (and doesn't seem afraid to get people in that know more than him in whatever aspect - which may be the sign of a good manager ).

 

 

It's not just about Shearer. Stuff needs to be put in place that will be there for 20 years.

[Monkeys Fist 38570]

My gut feeling is that we have never had continuity or any kind of bluprint or structure (no boot room) no alliances with Euro clubs with regard to scouting etc...The underlying issues are huge. Over the last decade people in power have just been lazy.

 

In all honesty maybe we didn't need it with the likes of Keegan, Daglish and Robson, they probably were scouting networks on their own to a degree.

 

But the lack of youth development (local and imported) and scouting is plain ridiculous (it's not like Fergy or Wenger is personally searching out young players he likes the look of).

 

And stability.... how much different would things be looking now in just that context if Keegan had stayed.

 

 

 

 

Which is the one good thing at the moment if the Shearer rumours are true, 4 year contract. Of course that assumes he isn't sacked (or isn't just rubbish).

 

 

I agee, the lack of scouting has aggravated the bad buy huge wage cycle.

 

 

Aye, you'd have to hope that this is something Shearer will sort out, he certainly talks the talk in those sort of respects (and doesn't seem afraid to get people in that know more than him in whatever aspect - which may be the sign of a good manager ).

 

 

It's not just about Shearer. Stuff needs to be put in place that will be there for 20 years.

True, but at the moment, Shearer seems to be the only one at the club driving this kind of approach thru.

Hope they listen to him , at the very least.

[Kitman 2188]

Nicos the cycle is bigger than that IMO. There seems to be an underlying disadvantage we have which we didn't have under KK 2, then it was cause we did buy some good players and basically outspent the competition, which we can no longer do. I don't think as Leazes does it just comes down to getting a good manager, the problem is bigger and more underlying...Whether it's location or lack of success it has been with us for a while.

 

The mind boggles that we couldn't compete with the likes of Fulham and Wigan.

 

It helps to have a manager you don't have to sack after they've blown your wad on their shite players. We've ripped it up and started again half a dozen times since the stability of SBR

 

Of course by default that is a case for a DOF.

 

Or not fucking up in appointing a manager. Again and again and again.

 

 

Again, even with a goodish manager and had we still been in the PL we were probably about 8th choice for a player in this league and about 30th choice for a player if clubs of similar standing in Euro are taken into account.

 

Yes, but Rome wasn't built in a day. Unless you're Chelsea. What's wrong with stability and steady improvement?

 

We've had the whole of the PL time to build Rome.

 

Mate, we're not talking about the same thing. Imagine the money was there to build Rome, but the architects held wild orgies and feasts, built themselves some big mansions and spunked the rest away on shoddy building materials, lean to's and gimmicky pre-fabs. Then when the money was gone they sodded off and left everyone to it. It might take the new blokes a bit longer to build Rome properly unless they're Roman sodding Abramovich, innit

[Fop 1]

Agreed,tho I would say its the starting block of being a good manager.

 

 

Aye, the problem with Shearer is that realistically there's the scale below and as of yet it's impossible to really place Shearer on it.

 

 

 

Souness..............................................................Fergy

 

 

 

Hopefully he'll prove himself to be towards the Fergy end.

Edited May 26, 2009 by Fop

[Park Life 70]

Nicos the cycle is bigger than that IMO. There seems to be an underlying disadvantage we have which we didn't have under KK 2, then it was cause we did buy some good players and basically outspent the competition, which we can no longer do. I don't think as Leazes does it just comes down to getting a good manager, the problem is bigger and more underlying...Whether it's location or lack of success it has been with us for a while.

 

The mind boggles that we couldn't compete with the likes of Fulham and Wigan.

 

It helps to have a manager you don't have to sack after they've blown your wad on their shite players. We've ripped it up and started again half a dozen times since the stability of SBR

 

Of course by default that is a case for a DOF.

 

Or not fucking up in appointing a manager. Again and again and again.

 

 

Again, even with a goodish manager and had we still been in the PL we were probably about 8th choice for a player in this league and about 30th choice for a player if clubs of similar standing in Euro are taken into account.

 

Yes, but Rome wasn't built in a day. Unless you're Chelsea. What's wrong with stability and steady improvement?

 

We've had the whole of the PL time to build Rome.

 

Mate, we're not talking about the same thing. Imagine the money was there to build Rome, but the architects held wild orgies and feasts, built themselves some big mansions and spunked the rest away on shoddy building materials, lean to's and gimmicky pre-fabs. Then when the money was gone they sodded off and left everyone to it. It might take the new blokes a bit longer to build Rome properly unless they're Roman sodding Abramovich, innit

 

 

That cycle happens at almost every club. How did they get through it?

[Fop 1]

It's not just about Shearer. Stuff needs to be put in place that will be there for 20 years.

Aye hopefully that is what he'll do, although frankly if he's decent enough maybe he'll be here for 20 years.

 

 

It would certainly make a refreshing change.

[Tom 13811]

If that's the case he really will need that wig from the adidas advert.

[Monkeys Fist 38570]

It's not just about Shearer. Stuff needs to be put in place that will be there for 20 years.

Aye hopefully that is what he'll do, although frankly if he's decent enough maybe he'll be here for 20 years.

 

 

It would certainly make a refreshing change.

Lets say shearer does a decent job of re-building, but we don't go back up next year.

will the board have the patience and cojones to stick with him, learn from the past, or will they get rid and say it was what the fans wanted?

I guess I'm also saying, if it doesn't go perfectly 1st attempt, will we be patient.

[Kitman 2188]

Nicos the cycle is bigger than that IMO. There seems to be an underlying disadvantage we have which we didn't have under KK 2, then it was cause we did buy some good players and basically outspent the competition, which we can no longer do. I don't think as Leazes does it just comes down to getting a good manager, the problem is bigger and more underlying...Whether it's location or lack of success it has been with us for a while.

 

The mind boggles that we couldn't compete with the likes of Fulham and Wigan.

 

It helps to have a manager you don't have to sack after they've blown your wad on their shite players. We've ripped it up and started again half a dozen times since the stability of SBR

 

Of course by default that is a case for a DOF.

 

Or not fucking up in appointing a manager. Again and again and again.

 

 

Again, even with a goodish manager and had we still been in the PL we were probably about 8th choice for a player in this league and about 30th choice for a player if clubs of similar standing in Euro are taken into account.

 

Yes, but Rome wasn't built in a day. Unless you're Chelsea. What's wrong with stability and steady improvement?

 

We've had the whole of the PL time to build Rome.

 

Mate, we're not talking about the same thing. Imagine the money was there to build Rome, but the architects held wild orgies and feasts, built themselves some big mansions and spunked the rest away on shoddy building materials, lean to's and gimmicky pre-fabs. Then when the money was gone they sodded off and left everyone to it. It might take the new blokes a bit longer to build Rome properly unless they're Roman sodding Abramovich, innit

 

 

That cycle happens at almost every club. How did they get through it?

 

Not sure what to make of such a massive generalisation. But the point is, it's happened to us now, at a time when ourselves and others simply can't spend our way out of it, because the money isn't there. So as an overall strategy we either have to take the Everton route to success, or find a real sugar daddy. Whichever way we go, doesn't mean the fundamentals of the club don't need to be sound, and that won't change overnight if you're starting from a low base.

[Kitman 2188]

It's not just about Shearer. Stuff needs to be put in place that will be there for 20 years.

Aye hopefully that is what he'll do, although frankly if he's decent enough maybe he'll be here for 20 years.

 

 

It would certainly make a refreshing change.

Lets say shearer does a decent job of re-building, but we don't go back up next year.

will the board have the patience and cojones to stick with him, learn from the past, or will they get rid and say it was what the fans wanted?

I guess I'm also saying, if it doesn't go perfectly 1st attempt, will we be patient.

 

You have to wonder who we could get in to replace Shearer at this point

[Park Life 70]

Nicos the cycle is bigger than that IMO. There seems to be an underlying disadvantage we have which we didn't have under KK 2, then it was cause we did buy some good players and basically outspent the competition, which we can no longer do. I don't think as Leazes does it just comes down to getting a good manager, the problem is bigger and more underlying...Whether it's location or lack of success it has been with us for a while.

 

The mind boggles that we couldn't compete with the likes of Fulham and Wigan.

 

It helps to have a manager you don't have to sack after they've blown your wad on their shite players. We've ripped it up and started again half a dozen times since the stability of SBR

 

Of course by default that is a case for a DOF.

 

Or not fucking up in appointing a manager. Again and again and again.

 

 

Again, even with a goodish manager and had we still been in the PL we were probably about 8th choice for a player in this league and about 30th choice for a player if clubs of similar standing in Euro are taken into account.

 

Yes, but Rome wasn't built in a day. Unless you're Chelsea. What's wrong with stability and steady improvement?

 

We've had the whole of the PL time to build Rome.

 

Mate, we're not talking about the same thing. Imagine the money was there to build Rome, but the architects held wild orgies and feasts, built themselves some big mansions and spunked the rest away on shoddy building materials, lean to's and gimmicky pre-fabs. Then when the money was gone they sodded off and left everyone to it. It might take the new blokes a bit longer to build Rome properly unless they're Roman sodding Abramovich, innit

 

 

That cycle happens at almost every club. How did they get through it?

 

Not sure what to make of such a massive generalisation. But the point is, it's happened to us now, at a time when ourselves and others simply can't spend our way out of it, because the money isn't there. So as an overall strategy we either have to take the Everton route to success, or find a real sugar daddy. Whichever way we go, doesn't mean the fundamentals of the club don't need to be sound, and that won't change overnight if you're starting from a low base.

 

 

Where's our fukin head of opponent analysis??!!

 

 

 

LFC » SQUAD » LFC COACHING STAFF

LFC COACHING STAFF

Rafael Benitez - Manager

Sammy Lee - Assistant Manager

Mauricio Pellegrino- First Team Coach

Gary Ablett - Reserve Team Manager

Angel Vales - Head of Technical Analysis

Dave McDonough - Head of Opponent Analysis

Paco De Miguel - Fitness Coach

Gerard Nus - Assistant Fitness Coach

Xavi Valero - Goalkeeping Coach

Hughie McAuley - Reserve Team Coach

Eduardo Macia - Chief Scout

Mike McGlynn - Assistant Chief Scout

Ron Yeats - Scout

John Wright - Club Masseur

Rob Price - Senior Physiotherapist

Mark Browes - Assistant Physiotherapist

Paul Small - Masseur

Stuart Welsh - Masseur

Mark Waller - Club Doctor

Graham Carter - Kit Manager

[Park Life 70]

Wigan

COACHING STAFF

Posted on: Wed 13 Aug 2008

Football & Coaching Staff

 

Steve Bruce, Manager

Eric Black, Assistant Manager

Frank Barlow, 1st Team Coach

John Benson, General Manager

Keith Bertschin, Reserve Team Manager

Will Royall, First Team Fitness Conditioner

Nigel Spink, Goalkeeping Coach

Dave Watson, Youth Team Manager

Bill Collier, Centre of Excellence Manager

Alan Jackson, Chief Kit Manager

Fred Sephton, Assistant Kit Manager

Hayley Turner, Community Trust Manager

 

Medical Staff

 

Dr. Ansar Zaman, Head of Medicine

Dave Galley, Head of Physiotherapy

Alex Cribley, First Team Physiotherapist

Dave Hallam, First Team Masseur

Mike Ashworth, Club Doctor

Neil Fitzhenry, Reserve Team Physiotherapist

[Kitman 2188]

Nicos the cycle is bigger than that IMO. There seems to be an underlying disadvantage we have which we didn't have under KK 2, then it was cause we did buy some good players and basically outspent the competition, which we can no longer do. I don't think as Leazes does it just comes down to getting a good manager, the problem is bigger and more underlying...Whether it's location or lack of success it has been with us for a while.

 

The mind boggles that we couldn't compete with the likes of Fulham and Wigan.

 

It helps to have a manager you don't have to sack after they've blown your wad on their shite players. We've ripped it up and started again half a dozen times since the stability of SBR

 

Of course by default that is a case for a DOF.

 

Or not fucking up in appointing a manager. Again and again and again.

 

 

Again, even with a goodish manager and had we still been in the PL we were probably about 8th choice for a player in this league and about 30th choice for a player if clubs of similar standing in Euro are taken into account.

 

Yes, but Rome wasn't built in a day. Unless you're Chelsea. What's wrong with stability and steady improvement?

 

We've had the whole of the PL time to build Rome.

 

Mate, we're not talking about the same thing. Imagine the money was there to build Rome, but the architects held wild orgies and feasts, built themselves some big mansions and spunked the rest away on shoddy building materials, lean to's and gimmicky pre-fabs. Then when the money was gone they sodded off and left everyone to it. It might take the new blokes a bit longer to build Rome properly unless they're Roman sodding Abramovich, innit

 

 

That cycle happens at almost every club. How did they get through it?

 

Not sure what to make of such a massive generalisation. But the point is, it's happened to us now, at a time when ourselves and others simply can't spend our way out of it, because the money isn't there. So as an overall strategy we either have to take the Everton route to success, or find a real sugar daddy. Whichever way we go, doesn't mean the fundamentals of the club don't need to be sound, and that won't change overnight if you're starting from a low base.

 

 

Where's our fukin head of opponent analysis??!!

 

 

 

LFC » SQUAD » LFC COACHING STAFF

LFC COACHING STAFF

Rafael Benitez - Manager

Sammy Lee - Assistant Manager

Mauricio Pellegrino- First Team Coach

Gary Ablett - Reserve Team Manager

Angel Vales - Head of Technical Analysis

Dave McDonough - Head of Opponent Analysis

Paco De Miguel - Fitness Coach

Gerard Nus - Assistant Fitness Coach

Xavi Valero - Goalkeeping Coach

Hughie McAuley - Reserve Team Coach

Eduardo Macia - Chief Scout

Mike McGlynn - Assistant Chief Scout

Ron Yeats - Scout

John Wright - Club Masseur

Rob Price - Senior Physiotherapist

Mark Browes - Assistant Physiotherapist

Paul Small - Masseur

Stuart Welsh - Masseur

Mark Waller - Club Doctor

Graham Carter - Kit Manager

 

He wouldn't have had much work to do on wor lot this season. In fact he probably took the week off.

 

I think we can agree we haven't got a lot in common with Liverpool.

[Park Life 70]

Nicos the cycle is bigger than that IMO. There seems to be an underlying disadvantage we have which we didn't have under KK 2, then it was cause we did buy some good players and basically outspent the competition, which we can no longer do. I don't think as Leazes does it just comes down to getting a good manager, the problem is bigger and more underlying...Whether it's location or lack of success it has been with us for a while.

 

The mind boggles that we couldn't compete with the likes of Fulham and Wigan.

 

It helps to have a manager you don't have to sack after they've blown your wad on their shite players. We've ripped it up and started again half a dozen times since the stability of SBR

 

Of course by default that is a case for a DOF.

 

Or not fucking up in appointing a manager. Again and again and again.

 

 

Again, even with a goodish manager and had we still been in the PL we were probably about 8th choice for a player in this league and about 30th choice for a player if clubs of similar standing in Euro are taken into account.

 

Yes, but Rome wasn't built in a day. Unless you're Chelsea. What's wrong with stability and steady improvement?

 

We've had the whole of the PL time to build Rome.

 

Mate, we're not talking about the same thing. Imagine the money was there to build Rome, but the architects held wild orgies and feasts, built themselves some big mansions and spunked the rest away on shoddy building materials, lean to's and gimmicky pre-fabs. Then when the money was gone they sodded off and left everyone to it. It might take the new blokes a bit longer to build Rome properly unless they're Roman sodding Abramovich, innit

 

 

That cycle happens at almost every club. How did they get through it?

 

Not sure what to make of such a massive generalisation. But the point is, it's happened to us now, at a time when ourselves and others simply can't spend our way out of it, because the money isn't there. So as an overall strategy we either have to take the Everton route to success, or find a real sugar daddy. Whichever way we go, doesn't mean the fundamentals of the club don't need to be sound, and that won't change overnight if you're starting from a low base.

 

 

Where's our fukin head of opponent analysis??!!

 

 

 

LFC » SQUAD » LFC COACHING STAFF

LFC COACHING STAFF

Rafael Benitez - Manager

Sammy Lee - Assistant Manager

Mauricio Pellegrino- First Team Coach

Gary Ablett - Reserve Team Manager

Angel Vales - Head of Technical Analysis

Dave McDonough - Head of Opponent Analysis

Paco De Miguel - Fitness Coach

Gerard Nus - Assistant Fitness Coach

Xavi Valero - Goalkeeping Coach

Hughie McAuley - Reserve Team Coach

Eduardo Macia - Chief Scout

Mike McGlynn - Assistant Chief Scout

Ron Yeats - Scout

John Wright - Club Masseur

Rob Price - Senior Physiotherapist

Mark Browes - Assistant Physiotherapist

Paul Small - Masseur

Stuart Welsh - Masseur

Mark Waller - Club Doctor

Graham Carter - Kit Manager

 

He wouldn't have had much work to do on wor lot this season. In fact he probably took the week off.

 

I think we can agree we haven't got a lot in common with Liverpool.

 

But why?

 

For a long time we had the same amount of cash as them.

[Tino 0]

For what its worth and being brutally honest about it all, there is so much that needs changing at the club it makes me sick thinking about it.

 

Heres just a few things we all know are wrong :

 

1. Paying high wages to attract players to come to the club in the first place - patently the wrong way to do it, even if we had stayed up.

2. Paying inflated transfer fees to get the players in the first place - again, totally wrong, but needs must if we wanted the player in the first place.

3. Buying the wrong players at the wrong time - See point 2 partly, but this is mainly down to mis-management at the club, Wise, Ashley and his cronies.

4. Not giving KK the control he wanted - Relates to point 3, but the manager has to be able to manage the club and not just the team on the pitch.

5. Injuries - Am I the only one who thinks its too much of a coincidence that we seem to suffer injury prone players? Surely this comes down to better medicals before they join, better training (to avoid getting injured) and better physios to get them up and running when they are ready (rather than rushing them back and getting injured again). Surely no team has ever been as unlucky as us for injuries and I dont believe in bad luck that runs that long... The list is endless for inuries over the last 10 years...

6. Youth policy - Do we even have one? Its not hard to create a good youth academy with decent scouts, proper coaching and development plans in place. Look at some of the smaller teams throughout the league who regularly churn out quality young players who get snapped up to bigger clubs. We have produced two players of any note in the last 10 years... There is something fundamentally wrong here.

7. Scouting - partly relates to point 2 and 3, but again, we used to sign great players, even when we werent in the premier league (Andy Cole from Bristol City for example) and when we went up, we took on players who wanted to play for us. These days we seem content to simply sign players for their name and hope they fit in, there is no chemistry checking, no assessing what the squad or the team needs and certainly no bargaining going on to keep the wage bill reasonable.

8. Transfer money - Trickier to hold anyone accountable because we have had money to spend, its just been poorly used and whilst I despise Ashley for his decisions, you cant blame the man for not wanting to sink even more money in when its spent so badly. That said, with Wise gone, perhaps control of that spending power can be given to the manager now. After all, only he really knows what he wants to build as a team and who would fit in to his preferred style of play.

 

I pray we now do the right thing, get rid of the over paid prima donas, get rid of the over age failures hanging on to one last golden hand shake and get rid of the injury prone gutless wankers who still collect 50k a week. But more than that, I hope we take a real look at the entire structure of the club and assess all of it, from the policy on buying players, training, coaching, youth policy and scouting.

 

god knows we need something to cheer us up right now and just clearing out the crap would be a good start.