ewerk 26192 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Did you see the one where he gave the woman 10 winners in a row at the horses? On the last one she was ready to put her house and her parents house on the result. According to The Times he did this with over 7,500 people, it was just that they showed the one woman where it came off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walliver 0 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Surely this is just bog standard writing the numbers on a "hand held" which then displays on the monitor, mocked up to look like ping pong balls? Can't be that, he writes '2' on his card but '02' comes up on the ball. You seem to have dismissed this idea anyway, but just in case someone else comes along, like. Surely he has to have done something more special than split screen? That's the sort of stuff regional news reporters do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Okay, having watched it again Im going 100% with the split screen theory. Used this years ago to make an advert using a blue screen, but these days its so much easier to do with all the technology. You will notice that while we are on the wide shot, the camerman is very shaky constantly moving. This never happens even with hand helds. Once Derren stands behind the balls the same camerman suddenly becomes rock steady eddy. The delay derren makes in writing down the numbers, even waiting for the bonus to be picked, that he isnt using, gives his assistant plenty of time to put the balls in place. Still a very good illusion......for the masses Quite amusing coming from someone who buys into that Anthony Robbins guff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6293 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 He managed to predict them then? How come he doesn't manage it every week Because it's a 'trick'? Howay man Craig, it's advertised as misdirection. I don't think anyone genuinely believes he knows what lottery numbers are coming out on a weekly basis. Aye I know man... It was a leading comment to those who believe it. Mind if he can predict them, his mates must be fucking pissed off he's not mentioned it before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Surely this is just bog standard writing the numbers on a "hand held" which then displays on the monitor, mocked up to look like ping pong balls? Can't be that, he writes '2' on his card but '02' comes up on the ball. You seem to have dismissed this idea anyway, but just in case someone else comes along, like. Surely he has to have done something more special than split screen? That's the sort of stuff regional news reporters do... The best misdirections are the simplest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6293 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Surely this is just bog standard writing the numbers on a "hand held" which then displays on the monitor, mocked up to look like ping pong balls? Can't be that, he writes '2' on his card but '02' comes up on the ball. You seem to have dismissed this idea anyway, but just in case someone else comes along, like. Surely he has to have done something more special than split screen? That's the sort of stuff regional news reporters do... The best misdirections are the simplest. Something your arguments can never claim to be.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Surely this is just bog standard writing the numbers on a "hand held" which then displays on the monitor, mocked up to look like ping pong balls? Can't be that, he writes '2' on his card but '02' comes up on the ball. You seem to have dismissed this idea anyway, but just in case someone else comes along, like. Surely he has to have done something more special than split screen? That's the sort of stuff regional news reporters do... The best misdirections are the simplest. Something your arguments can never claim to be.. Art can be complex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donaldstott 0 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Okay, having watched it again Im going 100% with the split screen theory. Used this years ago to make an advert using a blue screen, but these days its so much easier to do with all the technology. You will notice that while we are on the wide shot, the camerman is very shaky constantly moving. This never happens even with hand helds. Once Derren stands behind the balls the same camerman suddenly becomes rock steady eddy. The delay derren makes in writing down the numbers, even waiting for the bonus to be picked, that he isnt using, gives his assistant plenty of time to put the balls in place. Still a very good illusion......for the masses Quite amusing coming from someone who buys into that Anthony Robbins guff. Anthony Robbins isn't an illusionist, a mass hypnotherapist maybe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donaldstott 0 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Did you see the one where he gave the woman 10 winners in a row at the horses? On the last one she was ready to put her house and her parents house on the result. According to The Times he did this with over 7,500 people, it was just that they showed the one woman where it came off. Would there be a spate of people claiming Derrens mindbogglery never worked on me.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Thing is he had to reveal the no's before the draw...It isn't really magic otherwise. I don't fall for all the legal bullshit....Anyone can guess the no's without fear of legal claptrap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM4 0 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Anyone can guess the no's without fear of legal claptrap. That's what everyone who buys a ticket does, really. It's true it is a real shame he "had" to show his numbers after the draw. Takes away a lot of the wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Anyone can guess the no's without fear of legal claptrap. That's what everyone who buys a ticket does, really. It's true it is a real shame he "had" to show his numbers after the draw. Takes away a lot of the wow! Basically yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17633 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 It isn't really magic otherwise. Parky blatently believes in magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 It isn't really magic otherwise. Parky blatently believes in magic. You only have to wake up and look at the sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26192 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Did you see the one where he gave the woman 10 winners in a row at the horses? On the last one she was ready to put her house and her parents house on the result. According to The Times he did this with over 7,500 people, it was just that they showed the one woman where it came off. Would there be a spate of people claiming Derrens mindbogglery never worked on me.. It wasn't a secret, it was just his 'system', that if he had enough people backing different horses then one would win back all winners, nothing spectacular about it at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Did you see the one where he gave the woman 10 winners in a row at the horses? On the last one she was ready to put her house and her parents house on the result. According to The Times he did this with over 7,500 people, it was just that they showed the one woman where it came off. Would there be a spate of people claiming Derrens mindbogglery never worked on me.. It wasn't a secret, it was just his 'system', that if he had enough people backing different horses then one would win back all winners, nothing spectacular about it at all. A woman gambling away her parents home on a Derren Brown scam was pretty spectacular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Okay, having watched it again Im going 100% with the split screen theory. Used this years ago to make an advert using a blue screen, but these days its so much easier to do with all the technology. You will notice that while we are on the wide shot, the camerman is very shaky constantly moving. This never happens even with hand helds. Once Derren stands behind the balls the same camerman suddenly becomes rock steady eddy. The delay derren makes in writing down the numbers, even waiting for the bonus to be picked, that he isnt using, gives his assistant plenty of time to put the balls in place. Still a very good illusion......for the masses He's all over the shop throughout...I think purposely so, to dissuade people from the split screen theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Okay, having watched it again Im going 100% with the split screen theory. Used this years ago to make an advert using a blue screen, but these days its so much easier to do with all the technology. You will notice that while we are on the wide shot, the camerman is very shaky constantly moving. This never happens even with hand helds. Once Derren stands behind the balls the same camerman suddenly becomes rock steady eddy. The delay derren makes in writing down the numbers, even waiting for the bonus to be picked, that he isnt using, gives his assistant plenty of time to put the balls in place. Still a very good illusion......for the masses Quite amusing coming from someone who buys into that Anthony Robbins guff. Shows your ignorance of Robbins TBF Fair enough, it's not like you're the gullible type, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walliver 0 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 He fixed the Lottery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 133 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 He fixed the Lottery not sure I believe that but I'm more inclined to believe that than the other shit he was trapping on about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38588 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Duck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 6432 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 (edited) Whereas previously he got others to calculate, he did the averages for the live draw, making me believe he probably rigged the lottery. Would be interesting to see who won it? Edit: no-one won, but you'd have to be pretty ballsy to go for all 6. Edited September 11, 2009 by trophyshy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smooth Operator 10 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Blaine is magic, Brown is bullshit is you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInspiration 1 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 I like the way he didn't reveal the numbers on Wednesday before the lottery, stating it was because he couldn't legally reveal the numbers. That was supposed to be a 'prediction' that happened to be right - not exactly revealing the numbers, considering the draw hadn't been made. Then on tonight's show he has the opportunity to show everyone his team and people watching the show the predicted numbers beforehand when they're all in the room prior to the draw, but instead just rushes off. That way his team can't confirm whether he really did predict those numbers beforehand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8951 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Blaine is magic, Brown is bullshit is you ask me. Blaine is shit. His street stuff is hackery and the "staying in a box" is just utter dross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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