Papa Lazaru 0 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Job done away from home but not a game you'd want to sit through again! Enrique was class as usual, you don't really need to say it anymore its just a given. Smith did his job well, i thought Simpson had a good game and Nolan scored the winner so fair play there. The midfield as a whole created very little and Carrol due to sickness and Harewood due to being Harewood didn't offer much with Jonas showing his usual full range from good and awful. His pace and running causes defences big problems and relieves alot of pressure on our defence and he covered a hell of alot of ground for 90 mins, but on the other side his final ball and shooting was shocking most of the time. Providing January isn't a complete disaster in terms of players sales then there is no reason for us not to be proted as this division is so much worse than i ever thought it could be. With our defence hardly letting any in you have to wonder if Shola had stayed fit would we already be way out in front!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 3960 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Tbf to Ameobi (I know!) but didn't he score 5 goals in 4 games or something like that before he got injured? 3 in one game against a shit team at home (inc one pen) - of course that's harsh but anyone expecting him to score consistently has been on another planet for the last 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia 0 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 We are making it harder for ourselves by not starting with Ranger and not giving Lua Lua a bash. I've seen nothing from him to suggest he's any good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Can anyone tell me what Jonas does in training every day... Holy shit it's not rocket science? Get the fucker practicing crossing the ball and shooting all day every day! I used to say the same about Andy Cole and heading - coaches have a lot to answer for imo. He's 26, not 14. It's a bit late to be ironing out basic flaws like that. He plays like a converted full/wing back. That's where I'd play him anyway. Bring the ball out a bit and give it to the wide man to cross etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26168 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 He plays like a converted full/wing back. That's where I'd play him anyway. Bring the ball out a bit and give it to the wide man to cross etc.. Which wide man would that be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 16492 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I still beleive WBA will win it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 He plays like a converted full/wing back. That's where I'd play him anyway. Bring the ball out a bit and give it to the wide man to cross etc.. Which wide man would that be? I'm pontificating...Probably a foreign concept to you Ewok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I still beleive WBA will win it Don't matter as long as we get up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stevie Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I still beleive WBA will win it Don't matter as long as we get up. I must be the only one that firmly believes West Brom are pure shite. We'll do them here no bother at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26168 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 He plays like a converted full/wing back. That's where I'd play him anyway. Bring the ball out a bit and give it to the wide man to cross etc.. Which wide man would that be? I'm talking shite...Probably a foreign concept to you Ewok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I still beleive WBA will win it Don't matter as long as we get up. I must be the only one that firmly believes West Brom are pure shite. We'll do them here no bother at all. Seem to be a bit more free-scoring than us...We've become proper grinders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 He plays like a converted full/wing back. That's where I'd play him anyway. Bring the ball out a bit and give it to the wide man to cross etc.. Which wide man would that be? I'm talking shite...Probably a foreign concept to you Ewok. He's played full back before and maybe even for the Argies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26168 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I know he has and it's not the worst idea in the world but while we've no one else to play LW and no prospect of anyone decent coming in then it's a non-starter atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 We're a better side when he plays LW than when it's someone like Guthrie or Butt playing on the left and he does give us something a bit different. I know he's dead frustrating etc. Also, you wouldn't want to tinker with our back four anyway at present unless you had to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donaldstott 0 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 January is a concern, there is likely to be interest in the entire back four last night. As it stands Simpson returns to OT in January and Enrique, Colo and Taylor are far too good for this league.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14527 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 For all the Marlene and Guthrie doom sayers....have a look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb5bqkpMJ4A Harewood is crucially involved twice in the build up to the goal,and Guthrie puts a great cross in. Without those two bits of good play theres no goal and it's nowts each at FT. Also Nolan was guilty of giving the ball directly to a Preston player at least 3 times in the centre of the park last night...good job Preston are ultimately wank and couldnt captilise on it. Maybe we're being hard on Harewood in particular?...is there just a bit of the Shola about him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8947 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 West Brom are the only team I see challenging our place and even then it'd be us losing focus and stumbling, rather than finding ourselves bested by a team from this league. Looking at the next 8 games it's hard to see a game where we will fail to get at least a point. What did you expect before Blackpool, Scunthorpe and Forest though? A couple of injuries to key players and we know we struggle. I think we will go up though, but with the current situation frankly I hardly care. What a change from 1992-93. Fair point. As in the past, where wins would distract from our failings, this entire season is papering over our paper thin squad. However that paper thin squad should be enough to win this league... On paper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 For all the Marlene and Guthrie doom sayers....have a look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb5bqkpMJ4A Harewood is crucially involved twice in the build up to the goal,and Guthrie puts a great cross in. Without those two bits of good play theres no goal and it's nowts each at FT. Also Nolan was guilty of giving the ball directly to a Preston player at least 3 times in the centre of the park last night...good job Preston are ultimately wank and couldnt captilise on it. Maybe we're being hard on Harewood in particular?...is there just a bit of the Shola about him? Guthrie's got more assists (5 I think) than anyone else at the club despite not starting that many games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19735 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 We’re Chelsea-ing this league lads. No-one likes us, we’ve an insurmountable defence in this competition, our midfield is providing more goals than our front line, most of our goals are coming from our fat “attacking” midfielder who shouldn’t be played in the same team as Gerrard, we’re not playing attractive football but we’re winning... To be honest last night hammers home the fact that the gap between The Premier League and the Championship is huge. Preston aren’t a bad 2nd division side, it’s just that we’re still waddling around with a few 1st division players. Enrique is the best Left Back in the league, and while Taylor is certainly the best Centre Half, even Colo has got to be top five. In Nolan, Smith, Guthrie, and Barton we’ve four midfielders that would be a 1st team starter for any other team in this league and in many cases be their 1st name on the team sheet. Gutierrez has got pace and guile but no end product, but in this league simply winning a corner or a free kick or a throw in the final third is an end product; how many of our goals seems to come as a result of dead balls? There were flashes of genuine quality, moments where you thought “oh here we go, 2nd gear”, the passing between our players when they’re in synch is evidently better than our compatriots in this league and our defenders can look like titans wading through grass when the mood takes. And yet, despite all this is for damned sure, our team would be torn asunder by all but the very weakest in the premiership. Mellor was profligate of the few half chances that did fall to Preston, their defence would have been troubled by an inch of pace or strike of guile and while Chaplow and Tonge seemed to have more possession and more influence, in truth it looks like we allowed them possession until they broached a pre-determined area. They weren’t a bad side and their endeavour down the wing would have definitely worried a lesser back four. I think they played the more pleasing football, but our defence was too strong for them. It’s obvious that with a decent attacking midfielder or even just a good Right Winger, our style of play would change from grind-house workman-like 1-0 away victories, into more enjoyable football. However, if it’s working, why change it? Harper Simpson/Raylor Coloccini Saylor Enrique Raylor/Pancrate Smith Nolan Jonas Ameobi Carroll That’s a very good Championship side and if we were able to sell Smith or Nolan, I’ve faith in Barton and Guthrie (in this league). With kids like Kadar, Ranger, LuaLua giving our team the appearance of depth, we won’t be destroyed if two of the four midfielders left. What terrifies me are the noises coming for the sportsdirect.com@St James’ Park (God how I hate that). Houghton repeats he’s only planning for promotion and nothing after that. Well the thing with that is this: The team that gets you up can’t keep you up. Certainly given our owner’s allergic reaction to actually buying a player and there’s no way Taylor, Enrique et al will endure the second (inevitable) relegation. I dunno, but off the back of that win and more importantly that “performance” I’m pretty certain we’ll be promoted as champions and I’m convinced we’ll sink straight back down like a concrete shoed Mafia snitch unless huge changes affect our club. There's no long term plan, I think that's a given, the attitude is if we go up we'll cross that bridge when we come to it. When it does happen I think we'll be called Bosman City FC. To be fair some canny potential bosmans next season: Kuranyi, Hitzlsperger, Scharner, Kallstrom, Adam Johnson etc... bosman freebies@st james park stadium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8947 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 For all the Marlene and Guthrie doom sayers....have a look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb5bqkpMJ4A Harewood is crucially involved twice in the build up to the goal,and Guthrie puts a great cross in. Without those two bits of good play theres no goal and it's nowts each at FT. Also Nolan was guilty of giving the ball directly to a Preston player at least 3 times in the centre of the park last night...good job Preston are ultimately wank and couldnt captilise on it. Maybe we're being hard on Harewood in particular?...is there just a bit of the Shola about him? Guthrie's got more assists (5 I think) than anyone else at the club despite not starting that many games. 5 in 9 isn't it? Next is Carroll by my count with 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I wouldn't have any faith in the management to even get the best of the Bosmans though. Fucking yo-yo club (if we're lucky) if FMA sticks around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19735 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I still beleive WBA will win it Don't matter as long as we get up. I must be the only one that firmly believes West Brom are pure shite. We'll do them here no bother at all. Seem to be a bit more free-scoring than us...We've become proper grinders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 For all the Marlene and Guthrie doom sayers....have a look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb5bqkpMJ4A Harewood is crucially involved twice in the build up to the goal,and Guthrie puts a great cross in. Without those two bits of good play theres no goal and it's nowts each at FT. Also Nolan was guilty of giving the ball directly to a Preston player at least 3 times in the centre of the park last night...good job Preston are ultimately wank and couldnt captilise on it. Maybe we're being hard on Harewood in particular?...is there just a bit of the Shola about him? Guthrie's got more assists (5 I think) than anyone else at the club despite not starting that many games. 5 in 9 isn't it? Next is Carroll by my count with 3 The 5 is off the Football League site so it's only league games although I can't remember if he got one in the League Cup. According to .com he's started 11 league games + a couple of subs appearances. Pretty good in any case. I'd like to see him play more although you couldn't drop Smith or Nolan at present and he's a bit wasted out wide. I wouldn't be against playing the 3 of them in a match like last night with Nolan having a more free role / playing as a 2nd striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 For all the Marlene and Guthrie doom sayers....have a look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb5bqkpMJ4A Harewood is crucially involved twice in the build up to the goal,and Guthrie puts a great cross in. Without those two bits of good play theres no goal and it's nowts each at FT. Also Nolan was guilty of giving the ball directly to a Preston player at least 3 times in the centre of the park last night...good job Preston are ultimately wank and couldnt captilise on it. Maybe we're being hard on Harewood in particular?...is there just a bit of the Shola about him? Guthrie's got more assists (5 I think) than anyone else at the club despite not starting that many games. 5 in 9 isn't it? Next is Carroll by my count with 3 The 5 is off the Football League site so it's only league games although I can't remember if he got one in the League Cup. According to .com he's started 11 league games + a couple of subs appearances. Pretty good in any case. I'd like to see him play more although you couldn't drop Smith or Nolan at present and he's a bit wasted out wide. I wouldn't be against playing the 3 of them in a match like last night with Nolan having a more free role / playing as a 2nd striker. That was shirley the original idea before Raylor dropped out, wasn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 H seems to lack confidence and a few years ago there was a lot more fight about him. Need to sit him dowm and show him some Cyrille Regis vids (similar build, similar gifts). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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