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14 minutes ago, Alex said:

It's a bit like wine where a screw cap is better than a wooden or synthetic cork but people see the latter as being more 'high end'. 

 

I was talking to someone who works in the wine industry about this the other day regarding wines changing/maturing with time.

With a cork because it breathes older wines will change colour, nose and palete.

But now the first of the decent screw top wines are reaching the 15-20 years of age, they are finding there is less change to the wine, they are staying young longer.

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Just now, sammynb said:

 

I was talking to someone who works in the wine industry about this the other day regarding wines changing/maturing with time.

With a cork because it breathes older wines will change colour, nose and palete.

But now the first of the decent screw top wines are reaching the 15-20 years of age, they are finding there is less change to the wine, they are staying young longer.

I was saying it more with the majority of wines in mind, most of which are meant to be drunk when young (even if they have a cork stoppage). Even a screw cap will allow for some evaporation though. If you ever see old (unopened) bottles of spirits for sale online you'll note a lot have lost about 10% or more due to it. Spirits would be more prone to evaporation too though I think.

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11 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said:

 

Just sold it last Friday sadly. Last out about a month ago and was off work a week with shoulder pain. X-rays since have confirmed a degenerating shoulder joint so swinging a detectors a no no.

 

Spent the last few days desperately trying to come up with a new hobby but struggling. Very tempted to give home brewing another go and go down the grain and hops route but still badly scarred from my last home brewing disaster.

 

Even if I produce a quality product, there’s still no guarantee that I will like the taste.

CT. Confirmed degenerate. :D

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32 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said:

 

Spent the last few days desperately trying to come up with a new hobby but struggling.

I’d suggest Mushroom picking, but that’s probably what fucked your shoulder in the first place. :D

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1 hour ago, Alex said:

I was saying it more with the majority of wines in mind, most of which are meant to be drunk when young (even if they have a cork stoppage). Even a screw cap will allow for some evaporation though. If you ever see old (unopened) bottles of spirits for sale online you'll note a lot have lost about 10% or more due to it. Spirits would be more prone to evaporation too though I think.

 

Yeah, true and that is obviously being reflected in the way wines are being made now. But not 15 years ago when they first started using screw tops.

Alex we've got this great place we go and they have an amazing wine list where the owner has bought and cellared wines for the last 30 plus years.

Last time we were there we had something from 1998 with a cork and then the owner decided to share a screw top from 2002, both from SA, both similar blends and price but it was a real eye opener to how much younger the screw top wine was.

The owner also mentioned because of this people aren't buying/drinking the older screw top wines

 

Most decent spirits use corks as well, so that wouldn't help with evaporation.

Talking about whisky, did I read correctly that Blair Athol is no longer being released as part of Diageo's Flora and Fauna range?

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1 hour ago, Monkeys Fist said:

I’d suggest Mushroom picking, but that’s probably what fucked your shoulder in the first place. :D

 

Button mushrooms are quite fiddly to grasp.

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4 minutes ago, sammynb said:

 

Yeah, true and that is obviously being reflected in the way wines are being made now. But not 15 years ago when they first started using screw tops.

Alex we've got this great place we go and they have an amazing wine list where the owner has bought and cellared wines for the last 30 plus years.

Last time we were there we had something from 1998 with a cork and then the owner decided to share a screw top from 2002, both from SA, both similar blends and price but it was a real eye opener to how much younger the screw top wine was.

The owner also mentioned because of this people aren't buying/drinking the older screw top wines

 

Most decent spirits use corks as well, so that wouldn't help with evaporation.

Talking about whisky, did I read correctly that Blair Athol is no longer being released as part of Diageo's Flora and Fauna range?

That place looks amazing. Re: Blair Athol, I'm not sure but it's still widely available in the F&F Range. I know some of the Flora and Fauna range were discontinued because some of the distilleries had been sold but Diageo still own Blair Athol and there's no chance of them selling it because it forms such an important component in Bell's which, whatever you think of it, is still easily one of the best selling Scotch whiskies worldwide.

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15 minutes ago, Alex said:

Re: Blair Athol, I'm not sure but it's still widely available in the F&F Range. I know some of the Flora and Fauna range were discontinued because some of the distilleries had been sold but Diageo still own Blair Athol and there's no chance of them selling it because it forms such an important component in Bell's which, whatever you think of it, is still easily one of the best selling Scotch whiskies worldwide.

 

Mmm, what's this mean then?

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Blair Athol 12 yr old, is now a discontinued distillery bottling from Diageo’s Flora & Fauna series.

 

I seen that on a couple of different sites now? As I think I've mentioned before it's like rocking horse shite here in the antipodes but I recently found some so bought a bottle, now I just have to be able to drink it!!!

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30 minutes ago, sammynb said:

 

Mmm, what's this mean then?

 

I seen that on a couple of different sites now? As I think I've mentioned before it's like rocking horse shite here in the antipodes but I recently found some so bought a bottle, now I just have to be able to drink it!!!

Could well be discountinued if it never sold that well, I just know you can still get it and Diageo still own the distillery. You can get it here: https://www.masterofmalt.com/whiskies/blair-athol-12-year-old-whisky/?srh=1 for example. I think the Single Malt market has changed massively since the Flora and Fauna range came in with stuff like Mortlach and Caol Ila (the latter in particular) now being heavyweights in their own right. The big companies like Diageo and Pernod Ricard and the like are always fucking about with the lesser known distilleries (especially in terms of what they release as single malts). It's understandable because it's quite a commitment to continue to age something for 10, 12, 16 years or whatever if it's not selling in the current climate. It's a pain in the arse if you're a fan of that particular whisky though.

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@ewerk You had Chairman's Reserve before? It's a lovely drop and it would be up your street I think. It's St Lucian but very similar in style to the rums you get from Barbados. It's very good value anyway but Sainsbury's and Amazon Prime both have a couple of quid at the minute. Can't go wrong for £18. It's tropically aged for 5 years (which equates to about 10-15 years ageing in a more temperate climate). Good enough to sip but makes for a very affordable mixer, especially at that price.

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I haven’t had it before, I haven’t been drinking much rum lately but at that price I’ve a bottle ordered and looking forward to it. Certainly has good a review review from the Rum Pirate. :good: 

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Post graft, Almasty Echelon in the Free Trade. 

 

Whilst I’m here, why is every single fucking security guard obsessed with telling you, in great fucking detail, the exact details of their forthcoming shift patterns, as you’re attempting to get the fuck away from work? 

I DON’T FUCKING CARE, YOU EGG-SHAPED FUCK! 

 

All is now well :D

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43 minutes ago, Tooj said:

 

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In 1994 a group of wine connoisseurs, scientists and oenologists tested a bottle of the wine and declared it excellent

 

I've done that once or twice myself.

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