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Think they could be coming up this time like, they had a blip but are now playing well and scoring goals. Play offs at least. I think if they do come up they'd be far more susceptible to be relegated than we were last season.

Wishful thinking?

 

As much as I dislike them, at least it's a game that gets your back up and provides a bit of atmosphere. Wigan, Fulham etc are very tame by comparison.

Aye, spot on.

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Forgot about Bates. Bates and Leeds deserve each other. You wouldn't see bigger bunch cunts coming together in fat lesbian porn.

Bates bought Chelsea for a quid and sold his stake to Abramovic for £80m. Look like he's going to do similar with Leeds. I think he's probably learned his lesson with overstretching a club, Chelsea were going bankrupt when Abramovic bought them. Not many people remember this but Newcastle were on the verge of signing John Terry for £10m when Roman bought the club. I think for a club like Leeds it's important to live within their means given their past, and I don't know what Bates has done wrong so far, do they want a Ridsdale situation again. Leeds can come up live between their means and be at their natural level of 14th-17th. Bates has done nowt wrong.

 

That said while Leeds home support has always been shit, their away support isn't bad, was never that good in the Prem but strangely it's improved while they've been in the lower leagues, probably like a Man City siege mentality thing, and it's normally a good atmosphere at both grounds when we play them, as opposed to playing your Wolves' and your Fulhams'.

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Aye, I remember that about Terry. Signed Woodgate instead.

We tried to sign Terry as an addition to Woodgate. We signed Woody in the January, Terry was only a few days from signing for us in the June when Abramovic bought Chelsea.

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Aye, I remember that about Terry. Signed Woodgate instead.

We tried to sign Terry as an addition to Woodgate. We signed Woody in the January, Terry was only a few days from signing for us in the June when Abramovic bought Chelsea.

Ah right. I thought it was around the same time or maybe we were linked with him in the January too, perhaps? Would've been a canny partnership like.

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Aye, I remember that about Terry. Signed Woodgate instead.

We tried to sign Terry as an addition to Woodgate. We signed Woody in the January, Terry was only a few days from signing for us in the June when Abramovic bought Chelsea.

Ah right. I thought it was around the same time or maybe we were linked with him in the January too, perhaps? Would've been a canny partnership like.

Aye slightly more solid than Bramble and O'Brien.

 

Too many near misses like this in our history for me to think we're anything other than cursed. Up there with that time Keegan was offered Zidane for £1.8m but thought he wasn't good enough.

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Forgot about Bates. Bates and Leeds deserve each other. You wouldn't see bigger bunch cunts coming together in fat lesbian porn.

 

That said while Leeds home support has always been shit, their away support isn't bad, was never that good in the Prem but strangely it's improved while they've been in the lower leagues, probably like a Man City siege mentality thing, and it's normally a good atmosphere at both grounds when we play them, as opposed to playing your Wolves' and your Fulhams'.

 

A good point always ignored by these Knackers on the likes of Talksport/shit journalists etc who sometimes dig the odd poor attendance out by us and have a pop. Man City averaged 28K, (not the often stated 30K plus) in their Div 3 promotion year in 1999. We had averaged 29K in our div 2 promotion season in 1984. There is a hell of a difference between those figures as 29K in 1984 was a far more impressive figure for a club outside the top flight. It was in fact only slightly bettered by a Liverpool side who won everything bar the FA cup, including the European Cup, and Man Utd. Football in 1999 was far more popular. That's not a dig at Man City more the usual suspects who can't stand NUFC.

 

 

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Woodgate, one of the best players Ive seen in the Black and White.

 

Aye, he was brilliant the short time he was here. If he wasn't so injury prone I think he would have gone on to be a NUFC legend. That wasn't to be, now he's barely remembered as a Newcastle player (by non-NUFC fans).

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Aye the comparisons made with attendances by the people you're on about regarding us, i.e. only getting x amount in a certain season whereas Man City (or whoever got x amount in the 3rd tier) are never fair. It's always one era against another. Take any season by us, have a look at the circumstances etc. and compare it to other teams in the same season and we always do well. Again, like you, I'm not that bothered about the my Dad's bigger than your Dad nature of such debates, it's just the inherent inaccuracy / lack of fairness in any such discussion on the radio etc.

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Forgot about Bates. Bates and Leeds deserve each other. You wouldn't see bigger bunch cunts coming together in fat lesbian porn.

 

That said while Leeds home support has always been shit, their away support isn't bad, was never that good in the Prem but strangely it's improved while they've been in the lower leagues, probably like a Man City siege mentality thing, and it's normally a good atmosphere at both grounds when we play them, as opposed to playing your Wolves' and your Fulhams'.

 

A good point always ignored by these Knackers on the likes of Talksport/shit journalists etc who sometimes dig the odd poor attendance out by us and have a pop. Man City averaged 28K, (not the often stated 30K plus) in their Div 3 promotion year in 1999. We had averaged 29K in our div 2 promotion season in 1984. There is a hell of a difference between those figures as 29K in 1984 was a far more impressive figure for a club outside the top flight. It was in fact only slightly bettered by a Liverpool side who won everything bar the FA cup, including the European Cup, and Man Utd. Football in 1999 was far more popular. That's not a dig at Man City more the usual suspects who can't stand NUFC.

Man City have always been a poorly supported club when you look through their history. Their away support has generally always been shit too, and I don't accept the argument that they have the biggest club in the world 5 miles away, why bleat on about Manchester being blue then? 4m people within 25 minutes drive. Newcastle are and always will be relatively speaking the best supported club in England, in terms of profile of fan, and the astonishing amount of shit we've had / actual match going fans. I don't even see how anyone could argue about that.

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Aye, I remember that about Terry. Signed Woodgate instead.

We tried to sign Terry as an addition to Woodgate. We signed Woody in the January, Terry was only a few days from signing for us in the June when Abramovic bought Chelsea.

Ah right. I thought it was around the same time or maybe we were linked with him in the January too, perhaps? Would've been a canny partnership like.

Aye slightly more solid than Bramble and O'Brien.

 

Too many near misses like this in our history for me to think we're anything other than cursed. Up there with that time Keegan was offered Zidane for £1.8m but thought he wasn't good enough.

Where did you hear this about us and Zidane?

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Aye, I remember that about Terry. Signed Woodgate instead.

We tried to sign Terry as an addition to Woodgate. We signed Woody in the January, Terry was only a few days from signing for us in the June when Abramovic bought Chelsea.

Ah right. I thought it was around the same time or maybe we were linked with him in the January too, perhaps? Would've been a canny partnership like.

Aye slightly more solid than Bramble and O'Brien.

 

Too many near misses like this in our history for me to think we're anything other than cursed. Up there with that time Keegan was offered Zidane for £1.8m but thought he wasn't good enough.

Where did you hear this about us and Zidane?

It's a known fact amongst toon fans. Well toon fans 30 and over. Alan Oliver mentioned it in 1996 we'd been offered Zidane, and his agent pressed the Hall's to sign him, but Keegan said he didn't think he was good enough. It was backed up by this agents' crack last year.

The future World Player of the Year proved to be the 'one that got away' from a rueful Bazza when Zizou was looking for a way out of French Ligue 1 side Bordeaux back in the 90's.

"I offered him [Zidane] to Newcastle at the beginning of the 1996 season for £1.2 million,'' he said. ''And they watched him and said that he wasn't good enough to play in the First Division which is the Championship now. Three months later he went to Juventus for £1.2 million and two years later he went for £48 million. So I think the people at Newcastle got it slightly wrong."

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Cheers. I'd never heard that before.

 

I know there was a similar story around the time about Ferguson deciding not to sign him as well.

 

Iirc Bordeaux played Bayern in the Uefa Cup final in the 95/96 season beating Meelan on the way.

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Cheers. I'd never heard that before.

 

I know there was a similar story around the time about Ferguson deciding not to sign him as well.

 

Iirc Bordeaux played Bayern in the Uefa Cup final in the 95/96 season beating Meelan on the way.

Aye two legged affair in those days, Klinsmann was absolutely immense, think Bayern beat Forest 6-1 at the City Ground on the way to that final.

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Warnock has taken over there. Shame I like NW, honest bloke always with a bit crack and a smile on his face. I'm no Leeds lover but it would be mint if he went up and Barton went down.

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On the Leeds vacancy, a letter in the local rag.

 

I couldn't help but notice that Neil Warnock is the favourite for the vacant Nasty Leeds job. Would this be the same Neil Warnock that, upon hearing Nasty Leeds' relegation to the third tier, was quoted as saying: 'As a proud Yorkshireman, I'll be among the first to offer [Nasty] Leeds my commiserations. Well, I will as soon as I can stop laughing, anyway'

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Warnock has a great record of getting teams promoted plus he has the right attitude to whip our spineless lot into shape, something Mr. Nice Guy Grayson couldn't do. Pleased with the appointment.

 

To be honest I'm just waiting for this season to be over with then to see who Warnock brings in during the summer transfer window. I'm confident, given we sign the right players, that we'll go up next season.

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Warnock has a great record of getting teams promoted plus he has the right attitude to whip our spineless lot into shape, something Mr. Nice Guy Grayson couldn't do. Pleased with the appointment.

 

To be honest I'm just waiting for this season to be over with then to see who Warnock brings in during the summer transfer window. I'm confident, given we sign the right players, that we'll go up next season.

I think what your support needs to do is get your gates within say 10,000 of what ours were in the CCC (44,000) then perhaps Ken would invest more in the team. You can't expect Bates to spend millions on gates of 19-21,000 mate, and that's why I take issue with anyone who says Leeds are a big club. They're not and never were, because you don't have the local support of a Man Utd, Newcastle or even Sunderland.

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Warnock has a great record of getting teams promoted plus he has the right attitude to whip our spineless lot into shape, something Mr. Nice Guy Grayson couldn't do. Pleased with the appointment.

 

To be honest I'm just waiting for this season to be over with then to see who Warnock brings in during the summer transfer window. I'm confident, given we sign the right players, that we'll go up next season.

I think what your support needs to do is get your gates within say 10,000 of what ours were in the CCC (44,000) then perhaps Ken would invest more in the team. You can't expect Bates to spend millions on gates of 19-21,000 mate, and that's why I take issue with anyone who says Leeds are a big club. They're not and never were, because you don't have the local support of a Man Utd, Newcastle or even Sunderland.

 

Bates has the money, he just gives nothing to the manager, instead ploughing it into a "new look" East Stand. So some of our fans feel that there's no point lining his pockets if he doesn't even use the money to build a team.

 

When (or if) we go back up our attendances will skyrocket. We're the 3rd biggest city in England with one football club. I understand that your attendances were outstanding in your season in the Championship but would they have dwindled if you'd spent as long away from the Premiership as we have, or if you weren't nailed on to win automatic promotion? Not questioning how great Newcastle's support is because I'd actually argue it's the best in the country, but the fact is, every football club has part time fans who are only interested in "their team" when the times are good. It's no co-incidence that when we got promoted the other year against Bristol Rovers there were more people at Elland Road than usual, and people on my Facebook who I didn't even know were into football were acting like it was the best day of their lives.

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