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Has already signed for Arsenal according to an ITK in my work. He's normally pretty good.

 

Honest to god we could've got this type of player 6 years ago you know. Souness the anti christ.

 

We actually bought quite a lot of players of that calibre. You must have been asleep.

 

 

idiot isn't presumably going to pursue this............. ;)

 

:angry:

 

Classic case of friendly fire.

 

Has Stevie responded to this yet? If anyone else had called him an idiot I'm fairly sure they would have got a barrel full of cunts in reply.

 

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If NUFC can't afford to buy the top footballers, being the 3rd best supported club in the country........give yourself a shake, in your desperate attempts to undermine the last board.

 

:angry: Cringe. Leazes dismissing all of the facts about the current financial state with a counter argument about the size of the club.

 

cringe. AShleysskidmarks showing no understanding of how football begins and ends with the team on the pitch especially when it has a huge support and should be above competing at the levels of clubs like Wigan, Burnley etc

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Somebody ring the Glaziers up and tell them to fuck the Man Utd debt off and go on a spending spree because they're the biggest club in the country.

 

thats how they have won all their titles and cups you daft get :angry:

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Leazes... when you mention the fact that we used to sign players like this... could it be argued that Damien Duff was one of those players? Exactly the same, a Chelsea winger leaving them because he is declining. Were you happy signing declining players on inflated wages at great expense to the clubs financial health?

 

you mean like Kieron Dyer, Laurent Robert, Craig Bellamy, James Milner, Charles N'Zogbia, Obafemi Martins, Scott Parker for starters.......remind yourself too that the specific player you mention, Damien Duff, left us for Fulham, yes Fulham, and has just played in a european Final while we have played in the 2nd division.

 

Your "opinion" is trounced by facts mate.

 

 

Boro got to that same European final :icon_lol:

 

Martins? The wages such an average player were earning were laughable. Scott Parker? You mean the player that got sold to accommodate Alan Smith by a man appointed by Shepherd? Dyer, paid thousands for 2 games a season? The other players you mentioned were signed by Bobby Robson, the only manager appointed whilst Shepherd was chairman that enjoyed any kind of success. Why talk about a small number of success stories that were clearly an expection to the rule?

 

Sadly, one person owning less than 30% of shares doesn't run a football club on his own and make managerial appointments on his own either.

 

Also unfortunately, no manager appointed by Mike Ashley will get anywhere near the success that Bobby Robson achieved, as did all the managers appointed by the predecessors to the Halls and Shepherd since the 1950's to put things into their correct perspective. Why do you talk about a small number of relative failures during the time of the Halls and Shepherd that were clearly an exception to the rule ?

 

At the end of the day, we were the 5th most successful side during their time owning the club, with the 5th highest average league position, the 5th most qualified team for europe, converted a club that could not be sold for 2.5m quid into one that had the 14th biggest turnover in world football, transformed the stadium into one of the best in the country and filled it every home game, signed world class footballers including breaking the world transfer record, and attracted managers like Bobby Robson to the club in the first place when they were not interested previously preferring to spend his career at a club like Ipswich. All of that from having one foot in the 3rd division when they found it.

 

If you seriously think you can undermine and undervalue all of this, look again at what has happened since they were bought out.

 

 

But they managed to do all that and then fuck it all up though :lol: That's the point you're missing. We got the dizzy heights (without any trophies to show for it) but at the end of his reign we had just finished bottom half of the table, had an extortionate wage bill and are, because of their reign, debt ridden. The fact is they did all of those things by taking big financial risks that didn't pay off. The only thing that they can be credited for is ambition, but even then, they had their own motives at heart throughout.

 

so you would rather not attempt it then ?

 

Don't mock ambition, the current owner has none, just like most other clubs, which is what we are back to being, as we were pre-1992.

 

Shame you don't see it.

 

I wouldn't call playing regularly in europe, signing top players that we did, expanding and filling the stadium, "not paying off" but if you do, thats up to you.

 

As for motives, doesn't everybody have their own motives in life, including you ?

 

 

Are we pre-1992 because of the current owners lack of ambition or because of the previous owners wreckless ambition? A combination of both. Ashley is fucking terrible, but to use that fact to paint Shepherd in a good light is just bollocks Leazes, and you know it.

 

The terrifying thing? He doesn't!

 

under 30% of shares doesn't own the club.

 

5th most qualified team for europe, 5th highest average league position, 14th biggest turnover, expaned stadium filled to capacity, attracting top players and managers to the club. Can't argue with facts, if that is terrible, what is now and what is the 87 clubs who would have swapped places with us.

 

 

A fair few of those 87 clubs could have swapped places with us had they chose to go shit-or-bust with future revenue. They had more responsible owners, however.

 

 

rubbish.

 

You have a "responsible owner" now. I hope you are happy with what has happened on the pitch under his ownership, the resulting fall in revenue, the lack of "trophy players" [laughable] and selling all our best players to smaller clubs than Newcastle United, the 3rd biggest supported club in the country.

 

Newcastle Online is where you should be posting such shite, its full of tossers who also support the balance sheet instead of the football team.

 

 

 

And the alternative was to continue to spend money that we didn't have and continue to get into more and more debt. Is that what you would prefer from a current owner, Leazes?

 

 

you really ought to have a word with the trophy winning clubs, and tell them how they are getting it all wrong.

 

And you should have a word with Portsmouth and tell them how they got it spot on!

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Leazes... when you mention the fact that we used to sign players like this... could it be argued that Damien Duff was one of those players? Exactly the same, a Chelsea winger leaving them because he is declining. Were you happy signing declining players on inflated wages at great expense to the clubs financial health?

 

you mean like Kieron Dyer, Laurent Robert, Craig Bellamy, James Milner, Charles N'Zogbia, Obafemi Martins, Scott Parker for starters.......remind yourself too that the specific player you mention, Damien Duff, left us for Fulham, yes Fulham, and has just played in a european Final while we have played in the 2nd division.

 

Your "opinion" is trounced by facts mate.

 

 

Boro got to that same European final :icon_lol:

 

Martins? The wages such an average player were earning were laughable. Scott Parker? You mean the player that got sold to accommodate Alan Smith by a man appointed by Shepherd? Dyer, paid thousands for 2 games a season? The other players you mentioned were signed by Bobby Robson, the only manager appointed whilst Shepherd was chairman that enjoyed any kind of success. Why talk about a small number of success stories that were clearly an expection to the rule?

 

Sadly, one person owning less than 30% of shares doesn't run a football club on his own and make managerial appointments on his own either.

 

Also unfortunately, no manager appointed by Mike Ashley will get anywhere near the success that Bobby Robson achieved, as did all the managers appointed by the predecessors to the Halls and Shepherd since the 1950's to put things into their correct perspective. Why do you talk about a small number of relative failures during the time of the Halls and Shepherd that were clearly an exception to the rule ?

 

At the end of the day, we were the 5th most successful side during their time owning the club, with the 5th highest average league position, the 5th most qualified team for europe, converted a club that could not be sold for 2.5m quid into one that had the 14th biggest turnover in world football, transformed the stadium into one of the best in the country and filled it every home game, signed world class footballers including breaking the world transfer record, and attracted managers like Bobby Robson to the club in the first place when they were not interested previously preferring to spend his career at a club like Ipswich. All of that from having one foot in the 3rd division when they found it.

 

If you seriously think you can undermine and undervalue all of this, look again at what has happened since they were bought out.

 

 

But they managed to do all that and then fuck it all up though :lol: That's the point you're missing. We got the dizzy heights (without any trophies to show for it) but at the end of his reign we had just finished bottom half of the table, had an extortionate wage bill and are, because of their reign, debt ridden. The fact is they did all of those things by taking big financial risks that didn't pay off. The only thing that they can be credited for is ambition, but even then, they had their own motives at heart throughout.

 

so you would rather not attempt it then ?

 

Don't mock ambition, the current owner has none, just like most other clubs, which is what we are back to being, as we were pre-1992.

 

Shame you don't see it.

 

I wouldn't call playing regularly in europe, signing top players that we did, expanding and filling the stadium, "not paying off" but if you do, thats up to you.

 

As for motives, doesn't everybody have their own motives in life, including you ?

 

 

Are we pre-1992 because of the current owners lack of ambition or because of the previous owners wreckless ambition? A combination of both. Ashley is fucking terrible, but to use that fact to paint Shepherd in a good light is just bollocks Leazes, and you know it.

 

The terrifying thing? He doesn't!

 

under 30% of shares doesn't own the club.

 

5th most qualified team for europe, 5th highest average league position, 14th biggest turnover, expaned stadium filled to capacity, attracting top players and managers to the club. Can't argue with facts, if that is terrible, what is now and what is the 87 clubs who would have swapped places with us.

 

 

A fair few of those 87 clubs could have swapped places with us had they chose to go shit-or-bust with future revenue. They had more responsible owners, however.

 

 

rubbish.

 

You have a "responsible owner" now. I hope you are happy with what has happened on the pitch under his ownership, the resulting fall in revenue, the lack of "trophy players" [laughable] and selling all our best players to smaller clubs than Newcastle United, the 3rd biggest supported club in the country.

 

Newcastle Online is where you should be posting such shite, its full of tossers who also support the balance sheet instead of the football team.

 

 

 

And the alternative was to continue to spend money that we didn't have and continue to get into more and more debt. Is that what you would prefer from a current owner, Leazes?

 

 

you really ought to have a word with the trophy winning clubs, and tell them how they are getting it all wrong.

 

And you should have a word with Portsmouth and tell them how they got it spot on!

 

why are you cherry picking out one example from all the clubs in history that have had to spend big money to succeed. Incidentally, you should have also told Portsmouth fans not to celebrate winning the FA Cup because they were on a path to disaster. I'm sure it would have put a real dampener on an experience they had waited decades for and possibly will never see again. :rolleyes:

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Leazes... when you mention the fact that we used to sign players like this... could it be argued that Damien Duff was one of those players? Exactly the same, a Chelsea winger leaving them because he is declining. Were you happy signing declining players on inflated wages at great expense to the clubs financial health?

 

you mean like Kieron Dyer, Laurent Robert, Craig Bellamy, James Milner, Charles N'Zogbia, Obafemi Martins, Scott Parker for starters.......remind yourself too that the specific player you mention, Damien Duff, left us for Fulham, yes Fulham, and has just played in a european Final while we have played in the 2nd division.

 

Your "opinion" is trounced by facts mate.

 

 

Boro got to that same European final :icon_lol:

 

Martins? The wages such an average player were earning were laughable. Scott Parker? You mean the player that got sold to accommodate Alan Smith by a man appointed by Shepherd? Dyer, paid thousands for 2 games a season? The other players you mentioned were signed by Bobby Robson, the only manager appointed whilst Shepherd was chairman that enjoyed any kind of success. Why talk about a small number of success stories that were clearly an expection to the rule?

 

Sadly, one person owning less than 30% of shares doesn't run a football club on his own and make managerial appointments on his own either.

 

Also unfortunately, no manager appointed by Mike Ashley will get anywhere near the success that Bobby Robson achieved, as did all the managers appointed by the predecessors to the Halls and Shepherd since the 1950's to put things into their correct perspective. Why do you talk about a small number of relative failures during the time of the Halls and Shepherd that were clearly an exception to the rule ?

 

At the end of the day, we were the 5th most successful side during their time owning the club, with the 5th highest average league position, the 5th most qualified team for europe, converted a club that could not be sold for 2.5m quid into one that had the 14th biggest turnover in world football, transformed the stadium into one of the best in the country and filled it every home game, signed world class footballers including breaking the world transfer record, and attracted managers like Bobby Robson to the club in the first place when they were not interested previously preferring to spend his career at a club like Ipswich. All of that from having one foot in the 3rd division when they found it.

 

If you seriously think you can undermine and undervalue all of this, look again at what has happened since they were bought out.

 

 

But they managed to do all that and then fuck it all up though :lol: That's the point you're missing. We got the dizzy heights (without any trophies to show for it) but at the end of his reign we had just finished bottom half of the table, had an extortionate wage bill and are, because of their reign, debt ridden. The fact is they did all of those things by taking big financial risks that didn't pay off. The only thing that they can be credited for is ambition, but even then, they had their own motives at heart throughout.

 

so you would rather not attempt it then ?

 

Don't mock ambition, the current owner has none, just like most other clubs, which is what we are back to being, as we were pre-1992.

 

Shame you don't see it.

 

I wouldn't call playing regularly in europe, signing top players that we did, expanding and filling the stadium, "not paying off" but if you do, thats up to you.

 

As for motives, doesn't everybody have their own motives in life, including you ?

 

 

Are we pre-1992 because of the current owners lack of ambition or because of the previous owners wreckless ambition? A combination of both. Ashley is fucking terrible, but to use that fact to paint Shepherd in a good light is just bollocks Leazes, and you know it.

 

The terrifying thing? He doesn't!

 

under 30% of shares doesn't own the club.

 

5th most qualified team for europe, 5th highest average league position, 14th biggest turnover, expaned stadium filled to capacity, attracting top players and managers to the club. Can't argue with facts, if that is terrible, what is now and what is the 87 clubs who would have swapped places with us.

 

 

A fair few of those 87 clubs could have swapped places with us had they chose to go shit-or-bust with future revenue. They had more responsible owners, however.

 

 

rubbish.

 

You have a "responsible owner" now. I hope you are happy with what has happened on the pitch under his ownership, the resulting fall in revenue, the lack of "trophy players" [laughable] and selling all our best players to smaller clubs than Newcastle United, the 3rd biggest supported club in the country.

 

Newcastle Online is where you should be posting such shite, its full of tossers who also support the balance sheet instead of the football team.

 

 

 

And the alternative was to continue to spend money that we didn't have and continue to get into more and more debt. Is that what you would prefer from a current owner, Leazes?

 

 

you really ought to have a word with the trophy winning clubs, and tell them how they are getting it all wrong.

 

And you should have a word with Portsmouth and tell them how they got it spot on!

 

why are you cherry picking out one example from all the clubs in history that have had to spend big money to succeed. Incidentally, you should have also told Portsmouth fans not to celebrate winning the FA Cup because they were on a path to disaster. I'm sure it would have put a real dampener on an experience they had waited decades for and possibly will never see again. :rolleyes:

 

Wasn't a big part with Pompey's downfall due to clauses in a lot of their players contracts stating that if they won any silverware that a bonus was to be paid to the teams that they were bought from? Something that they did not forsee happening?

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Leazes... when you mention the fact that we used to sign players like this... could it be argued that Damien Duff was one of those players? Exactly the same, a Chelsea winger leaving them because he is declining. Were you happy signing declining players on inflated wages at great expense to the clubs financial health?

 

you mean like Kieron Dyer, Laurent Robert, Craig Bellamy, James Milner, Charles N'Zogbia, Obafemi Martins, Scott Parker for starters.......remind yourself too that the specific player you mention, Damien Duff, left us for Fulham, yes Fulham, and has just played in a european Final while we have played in the 2nd division.

 

Your "opinion" is trounced by facts mate.

 

 

Boro got to that same European final :icon_lol:

 

Martins? The wages such an average player were earning were laughable. Scott Parker? You mean the player that got sold to accommodate Alan Smith by a man appointed by Shepherd? Dyer, paid thousands for 2 games a season? The other players you mentioned were signed by Bobby Robson, the only manager appointed whilst Shepherd was chairman that enjoyed any kind of success. Why talk about a small number of success stories that were clearly an expection to the rule?

 

Sadly, one person owning less than 30% of shares doesn't run a football club on his own and make managerial appointments on his own either.

 

Also unfortunately, no manager appointed by Mike Ashley will get anywhere near the success that Bobby Robson achieved, as did all the managers appointed by the predecessors to the Halls and Shepherd since the 1950's to put things into their correct perspective. Why do you talk about a small number of relative failures during the time of the Halls and Shepherd that were clearly an exception to the rule ?

 

At the end of the day, we were the 5th most successful side during their time owning the club, with the 5th highest average league position, the 5th most qualified team for europe, converted a club that could not be sold for 2.5m quid into one that had the 14th biggest turnover in world football, transformed the stadium into one of the best in the country and filled it every home game, signed world class footballers including breaking the world transfer record, and attracted managers like Bobby Robson to the club in the first place when they were not interested previously preferring to spend his career at a club like Ipswich. All of that from having one foot in the 3rd division when they found it.

 

If you seriously think you can undermine and undervalue all of this, look again at what has happened since they were bought out.

 

 

But they managed to do all that and then fuck it all up though :lol: That's the point you're missing. We got the dizzy heights (without any trophies to show for it) but at the end of his reign we had just finished bottom half of the table, had an extortionate wage bill and are, because of their reign, debt ridden. The fact is they did all of those things by taking big financial risks that didn't pay off. The only thing that they can be credited for is ambition, but even then, they had their own motives at heart throughout.

 

so you would rather not attempt it then ?

 

Don't mock ambition, the current owner has none, just like most other clubs, which is what we are back to being, as we were pre-1992.

 

Shame you don't see it.

 

I wouldn't call playing regularly in europe, signing top players that we did, expanding and filling the stadium, "not paying off" but if you do, thats up to you.

 

As for motives, doesn't everybody have their own motives in life, including you ?

 

 

Are we pre-1992 because of the current owners lack of ambition or because of the previous owners wreckless ambition? A combination of both. Ashley is fucking terrible, but to use that fact to paint Shepherd in a good light is just bollocks Leazes, and you know it.

 

The terrifying thing? He doesn't!

 

under 30% of shares doesn't own the club.

 

5th most qualified team for europe, 5th highest average league position, 14th biggest turnover, expaned stadium filled to capacity, attracting top players and managers to the club. Can't argue with facts, if that is terrible, what is now and what is the 87 clubs who would have swapped places with us.

 

 

A fair few of those 87 clubs could have swapped places with us had they chose to go shit-or-bust with future revenue. They had more responsible owners, however.

 

 

rubbish.

 

You have a "responsible owner" now. I hope you are happy with what has happened on the pitch under his ownership, the resulting fall in revenue, the lack of "trophy players" [laughable] and selling all our best players to smaller clubs than Newcastle United, the 3rd biggest supported club in the country.

 

Newcastle Online is where you should be posting such shite, its full of tossers who also support the balance sheet instead of the football team.

 

 

 

And the alternative was to continue to spend money that we didn't have and continue to get into more and more debt. Is that what you would prefer from a current owner, Leazes?

 

 

you really ought to have a word with the trophy winning clubs, and tell them how they are getting it all wrong.

 

And you should have a word with Portsmouth and tell them how they got it spot on!

 

why are you cherry picking out one example from all the clubs in history that have had to spend big money to succeed. Incidentally, you should have also told Portsmouth fans not to celebrate winning the FA Cup because they were on a path to disaster. I'm sure it would have put a real dampener on an experience they had waited decades for and possibly will never see again. :rolleyes:

 

Wasn't a big part with Pompey's downfall due to clauses in a lot of their players contracts stating that if they won any silverware that a bonus was to be paid to the teams that they were bought from? Something that they did not forsee happening?

 

I think I read something like this, was it not bonuses to the players ? Daft thing to do anyway I suppose, but so far as supporters of the club are concerned, you support your team in the hope they will be successful on the pitch. I don't think any football fan anywhere would give a thought to the financial position a few years down the road if the club is successful. How many NUFC fans gave a thought to the future financial side of things when we were playing in the Champions League. Many supporters of the club, on here too, supported the backing of Souness, and the signings of players like Owen, so to turn around now and criticise the club for doing it is a huge u-turn and the biggest hypocrisy imagineable. Even more mind boggling is the fact that they appear to be settling for regular relegation battles in the fight to stop the club going into debt.

Do you want to support a football club, living up to being the 3rd best supported in the country, attempting to punch their weight and win trophies and play in europe or do you want to support them living with financial restraints and operating in the same financial leagues as teams such as Bolton, Burnley and Wigan ?

 

it was the drive and ambition of the last board that transformed NUFC from being a club on the way to bankruptcy and the 3rd division into one with the 14th biggest turnover in world football, and some people are criticising the way they approached their running of the club. It defies belief :razz:

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Anyway, to get back on track, Pompey, for all they won the FA Cup aren't the biggest of clubs anyway, so they should be grateful they got their big day that they will never forget. They can think about it when they are back in the 2nd division, but what a memory.

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Leazes... when you mention the fact that we used to sign players like this... could it be argued that Damien Duff was one of those players? Exactly the same, a Chelsea winger leaving them because he is declining. Were you happy signing declining players on inflated wages at great expense to the clubs financial health?

 

you mean like Kieron Dyer, Laurent Robert, Craig Bellamy, James Milner, Charles N'Zogbia, Obafemi Martins, Scott Parker for starters.......remind yourself too that the specific player you mention, Damien Duff, left us for Fulham, yes Fulham, and has just played in a european Final while we have played in the 2nd division.

 

Your "opinion" is trounced by facts mate.

 

 

Boro got to that same European final :icon_lol:

 

Martins? The wages such an average player were earning were laughable. Scott Parker? You mean the player that got sold to accommodate Alan Smith by a man appointed by Shepherd? Dyer, paid thousands for 2 games a season? The other players you mentioned were signed by Bobby Robson, the only manager appointed whilst Shepherd was chairman that enjoyed any kind of success. Why talk about a small number of success stories that were clearly an expection to the rule?

 

Sadly, one person owning less than 30% of shares doesn't run a football club on his own and make managerial appointments on his own either.

 

Also unfortunately, no manager appointed by Mike Ashley will get anywhere near the success that Bobby Robson achieved, as did all the managers appointed by the predecessors to the Halls and Shepherd since the 1950's to put things into their correct perspective. Why do you talk about a small number of relative failures during the time of the Halls and Shepherd that were clearly an exception to the rule ?

 

At the end of the day, we were the 5th most successful side during their time owning the club, with the 5th highest average league position, the 5th most qualified team for europe, converted a club that could not be sold for 2.5m quid into one that had the 14th biggest turnover in world football, transformed the stadium into one of the best in the country and filled it every home game, signed world class footballers including breaking the world transfer record, and attracted managers like Bobby Robson to the club in the first place when they were not interested previously preferring to spend his career at a club like Ipswich. All of that from having one foot in the 3rd division when they found it.

 

If you seriously think you can undermine and undervalue all of this, look again at what has happened since they were bought out.

 

 

But they managed to do all that and then fuck it all up though :lol: That's the point you're missing. We got the dizzy heights (without any trophies to show for it) but at the end of his reign we had just finished bottom half of the table, had an extortionate wage bill and are, because of their reign, debt ridden. The fact is they did all of those things by taking big financial risks that didn't pay off. The only thing that they can be credited for is ambition, but even then, they had their own motives at heart throughout.

 

so you would rather not attempt it then ?

 

Don't mock ambition, the current owner has none, just like most other clubs, which is what we are back to being, as we were pre-1992.

 

Shame you don't see it.

 

I wouldn't call playing regularly in europe, signing top players that we did, expanding and filling the stadium, "not paying off" but if you do, thats up to you.

 

As for motives, doesn't everybody have their own motives in life, including you ?

 

 

Are we pre-1992 because of the current owners lack of ambition or because of the previous owners wreckless ambition? A combination of both. Ashley is fucking terrible, but to use that fact to paint Shepherd in a good light is just bollocks Leazes, and you know it.

 

The terrifying thing? He doesn't!

 

under 30% of shares doesn't own the club.

 

5th most qualified team for europe, 5th highest average league position, 14th biggest turnover, expaned stadium filled to capacity, attracting top players and managers to the club. Can't argue with facts, if that is terrible, what is now and what is the 87 clubs who would have swapped places with us.

 

 

A fair few of those 87 clubs could have swapped places with us had they chose to go shit-or-bust with future revenue. They had more responsible owners, however.

 

 

rubbish.

 

You have a "responsible owner" now. I hope you are happy with what has happened on the pitch under his ownership, the resulting fall in revenue, the lack of "trophy players" [laughable] and selling all our best players to smaller clubs than Newcastle United, the 3rd biggest supported club in the country.

 

Newcastle Online is where you should be posting such shite, its full of tossers who also support the balance sheet instead of the football team.

 

 

 

And the alternative was to continue to spend money that we didn't have and continue to get into more and more debt. Is that what you would prefer from a current owner, Leazes?

 

 

you really ought to have a word with the trophy winning clubs, and tell them how they are getting it all wrong.

 

And you should have a word with Portsmouth and tell them how they got it spot on!

 

why are you cherry picking out one example from all the clubs in history that have had to spend big money to succeed. Incidentally, you should have also told Portsmouth fans not to celebrate winning the FA Cup because they were on a path to disaster. I'm sure it would have put a real dampener on an experience they had waited decades for and possibly will never see again. :rolleyes:

 

Wasn't a big part with Pompey's downfall due to clauses in a lot of their players contracts stating that if they won any silverware that a bonus was to be paid to the teams that they were bought from? Something that they did not forsee happening?

 

I think I read something like this, was it not bonuses to the players ? Daft thing to do anyway I suppose, but so far as supporters of the club are concerned, you support your team in the hope they will be successful on the pitch. I don't think any football fan anywhere would give a thought to the financial position a few years down the road if the club is successful. How many NUFC fans gave a thought to the future financial side of things when we were playing in the Champions League. Many supporters of the club, on here too, supported the backing of Souness, and the signings of players like Owen, so to turn around now and criticise the club for doing it is a huge u-turn and the biggest hypocrisy imagineable. Even more mind boggling is the fact that they appear to be settling for regular relegation battles in the fight to stop the club going into debt.

Do you want to support a football club, living up to being the 3rd best supported in the country, attempting to punch their weight and win trophies and play in europe or do you want to support them living with financial restraints and operating in the same financial leagues as teams such as Bolton, Burnley and Wigan ?

 

it was the drive and ambition of the last board that transformed NUFC from being a club on the way to bankruptcy and the 3rd division into one with the 14th biggest turnover in world football, and some people are criticising the way they approached their running of the club. It defies belief :razz:

 

Couldnt agree more - the lack of ambition shown by the current owner is mind boggling and the fact that so many people seem to accept it and be satisfied with survival and mid table mediocrity at best for the forseeable future is even more staggering

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Oh dear you really have lost the plot. How many successful clubs do you know that achieved it by spending their future earnings on players that only joined for the money? In fact, provide any example of where a business model similar to Shepherds has ended in anything other than disaster.

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I don't think a lot pf people WANTED Souness but we did back him because he was our manager. More in hope that expectancy.

 

We Blackburn fans wanted him.........................to leave :icon_lol:

 

We couldn't believe our luck.

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Anyway, to get back on track, Pompey, for all they won the FA Cup aren't the biggest of clubs anyway, so they should be grateful they got their big day that they will never forget. They can think about it when they are back in the 2nd division, but what a memory.

 

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Oh dear you really have lost the plot. How many successful clubs do you know that achieved it by spending their future earnings on players that only joined for the money? In fact, provide any example of where a business model similar to Shepherds has ended in anything other than disaster.

 

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how old are you son ?

 

Do you have a ticket to watch this club ? Are you looking forward to years (however long he is here) of watching relegationg scrapping while following your "business model" which Mike Ashley has set up, buying championship players ?

 

Why don't you outline your grand plan for the football club :lol:

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Anyway, to get back on track, Pompey, for all they won the FA Cup aren't the biggest of clubs anyway, so they should be grateful they got their big day that they will never forget. They can think about it when they are back in the 2nd division, but what a memory.

 

:icon_lol:

 

Indeed. Surely 'back on track' would be talking about Joe Cole? :lol:

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Oh dear you really have lost the plot. How many successful clubs do you know that achieved it by spending their future earnings on players that only joined for the money? In fact, provide any example of where a business model similar to Shepherds has ended in anything other than disaster.

 

:icon_lol:

 

how old are you son ?

 

Do you have a ticket to watch this club ? Are you looking forward to years (however long he is here) of watching relegationg scrapping while following your "business model" which Mike Ashley has set up, buying championship players ?

 

Why don't you outline your grand plan for the football club :lol:

 

 

What you aren't grasping though, you senile old cunt, is that we're resigned to not spending now because Freddy spent all of our future earnings. Are you fucking stupid or what?

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Here's my grand plan then, as you asked.

 

 

Don't spend money that you don't have.

 

Don't pay players more than the club can afford.

 

Don't live beyond our means.

 

Have ambition, but not to the extent of jeopardising the financial future of the club.

 

 

 

 

Another interesting point here. Shepherd claimed that he'd have fought Ashley's takeover had he not been ill in hospital. Surely, a man of his wealth could have had 'people' to do that for him? I think you'll find the reality is he fucking bolted, because he knew what a mess he was leaving.

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Here's my grand plan then, as you asked.

 

 

Don't spend money that you don't have.

 

Don't pay players more than the club can afford.

 

Don't live beyond our means.

 

Have ambition, but not to the extent of jeopardising the financial future of the club.

 

 

 

 

Another interesting point here. Shepherd claimed that he'd have fought Ashley's takeover had he not been ill in hospital. Surely, a man of his wealth could have had 'people' to do that for him? I think you'll find the reality is he fucking bolted, because he knew what a mess he was leaving.

 

You mean like when we bought Craig Bellamy and Laurent Robert ? You think we should have sat in mid table and not took a risk or showed ambition :icon_lol:

 

please tell me who wins trophies buying championship standard footballers and refusing to pay the going rate to compete with the other trophy winners

 

You are living in a dreamland. The limit of your ambition is premiership survival. One thing I will give a lot of people on here who slated the old board for massively raising the clubs fortunes and expectations, is that they now realise they were harsh to say the least. Not you though.

 

You don't answer my question anyway. Do you watch the club, or are you supporting the balance sheet from the comfort of your armchair, without having to spend your money sitting watching the 3rd best supported club in the country (courtesy of the Halls and Shepherd) compete with the balance sheets of clubs like Burnley and Wigan, and existing by their rules.

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Anyway, to get back on track, Pompey, for all they won the FA Cup aren't the biggest of clubs anyway, so they should be grateful they got their big day that they will never forget. They can think about it when they are back in the 2nd division, but what a memory.

 

:icon_lol:

 

Indeed. Surely 'back on track' would be talking about Joe Cole? :lol:

 

no, trying to divert Ashleysskidmarks from his absurd attacks on the old board, as he clearly hasn't got a clue what they did for the club.

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Here's my grand plan then, as you asked.

 

 

Don't spend money that you don't have.

 

Don't pay players more than the club can afford.

 

Don't live beyond our means.

 

Have ambition, but not to the extent of jeopardising the financial future of the club.

 

 

 

 

Another interesting point here. Shepherd claimed that he'd have fought Ashley's takeover had he not been ill in hospital. Surely, a man of his wealth could have had 'people' to do that for him? I think you'll find the reality is he fucking bolted, because he knew what a mess he was leaving.

 

You mean like when we bought Craig Bellamy and Laurent Robert ? You think we should have sat in mid table and not took a risk or showed ambition :icon_lol:

 

please tell me who wins trophies buying championship standard footballers and refusing to pay the going rate to compete with the other trophy winners

 

You are living in a dreamland. The limit of your ambition is premiership survival. One thing I will give a lot of people on here who slated the old board for massively raising the clubs fortunes and expectations, is that they now realise they were harsh to say the least. Not you though.

 

You don't answer my question anyway. Do you watch the club, or are you supporting the balance sheet from the comfort of your armchair, without having to spend your money sitting watching the 3rd best supported club in the country (courtesy of the Halls and Shepherd) compete with the balance sheets of clubs like Burnley and Wigan, and existing by their rules.

 

 

Jesus Christ. Holy fucking shit. You're actually unbelievable. WE CAN ONLY AFFORD CHAMPIONSHIP STANDARD FOOTBALLERS. BECAUSE SHEPHERD SPENT ALL THE DOLLARSSSSSSSSZZZZZZZZZ $$$$$$$$$

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Here's my grand plan then, as you asked.

 

 

Don't spend money that you don't have.

 

Don't pay players more than the club can afford.

 

Don't live beyond our means.

 

Have ambition, but not to the extent of jeopardising the financial future of the club.

 

 

 

 

Another interesting point here. Shepherd claimed that he'd have fought Ashley's takeover had he not been ill in hospital. Surely, a man of his wealth could have had 'people' to do that for him? I think you'll find the reality is he fucking bolted, because he knew what a mess he was leaving.

 

You mean like when we bought Craig Bellamy and Laurent Robert ? You think we should have sat in mid table and not took a risk or showed ambition :lol:

 

please tell me who wins trophies buying championship standard footballers and refusing to pay the going rate to compete with the other trophy winners

 

You are living in a dreamland. The limit of your ambition is premiership survival. One thing I will give a lot of people on here who slated the old board for massively raising the clubs fortunes and expectations, is that they now realise they were harsh to say the least. Not you though.

 

You don't answer my question anyway. Do you watch the club, or are you supporting the balance sheet from the comfort of your armchair, without having to spend your money sitting watching the 3rd best supported club in the country (courtesy of the Halls and Shepherd) compete with the balance sheets of clubs like Burnley and Wigan, and existing by their rules.

 

 

Jesus Christ. Holy fucking shit. You're actually unbelievable. WE CAN ONLY AFFORD CHAMPIONSHIP STANDARD FOOTBALLERS. BECAUSE SHEPHERD SPENT ALL THE DOLLARSSSSSSSSZZZZZZZZZ $$$$$$$$$

 

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Anyway, to get back on track, Pompey, for all they won the FA Cup aren't the biggest of clubs anyway, so they should be grateful they got their big day that they will never forget. They can think about it when they are back in the 2nd division, but what a memory.

 

:icon_lol:

 

Indeed. Surely 'back on track' would be talking about Joe Cole? :lol:

 

no, trying to divert Ashleysskidmarks from his absurd attacks on the old board, as he clearly hasn't got a clue what they did for the club.

 

 

Fleeced money from it and left it in shit loads of debt?

 

Why did the Shepherd sell up Leazes? Surely no cash sum would make you want to leave the club you love and support?

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Anyway, to get back on track, Pompey, for all they won the FA Cup aren't the biggest of clubs anyway, so they should be grateful they got their big day that they will never forget. They can think about it when they are back in the 2nd division, but what a memory.

 

:icon_lol:

 

Indeed. Surely 'back on track' would be talking about Joe Cole? :lol:

 

no, trying to divert Ashleysskidmarks from his absurd attacks on the old board, as he clearly hasn't got a clue what they did for the club.

 

 

Fleeced money from it and left it in shit loads of debt?

 

Why did the Shepherd sell up Leazes? Surely no cash sum would make you want to leave the club you love and support?

 

eer.........because the Halls had already sold out and Ashley had control already :rolleyes:

 

You've got a strange grudge against Shepherd son. See your GP. How old are you ?

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Anyway, to get back on track, Pompey, for all they won the FA Cup aren't the biggest of clubs anyway, so they should be grateful they got their big day that they will never forget. They can think about it when they are back in the 2nd division, but what a memory.

 

:icon_lol:

 

Indeed. Surely 'back on track' would be talking about Joe Cole? :lol:

 

no, trying to divert Ashleysskidmarks from his absurd attacks on the old board, as he clearly hasn't got a clue what they did for the club.

 

 

Fleeced money from it and left it in shit loads of debt?

 

Why did the Shepherd sell up Leazes? Surely no cash sum would make you want to leave the club you love and support?

 

eer.........because the Halls had already sold out and Ashley had control already :rolleyes:

 

You've got a strange grudge against Shepherd son. See your GP. How old are you ?

 

 

I think you'll find he wasn't obliged to sell. He did hold out for an extra penny per share iirc

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He sold up because Ashley had a controlling majority and he was clearly told he would be a peripheral figure. Doesn't mean he wanted to go. It's the Halls you need to be looking at on that score. Don't buy the bit about him having spent all our money either but don't really fancy getting into that again.

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