MickMartin 0 Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 Perch is the replacement for STaylor so that will be 1million out for Perch and 6 million in from STaylor which equals 5 million in the fat cunts pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 We already knew Hughton wanted to strengthen at right-back, so Perch is probably meant to be an improvement on Simpson. If he is, then 1 million isnt bad business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13808 Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 I doubt Taylor is going anywhere like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 31 Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 Didnt Perch also do quite well as a defensive midfielder? Maybe replacing Butt and giving cover for the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish_Out_Of_Water 0 Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 Hey guys, Forest fan here. I'm really quite unsure what to make of this. I know Calderwood liked JP when he was with us, so I imagine that had an impact on the signing, aswell as him having his best game for us at your place. I'll start with the positives. He will work his arse off and he's a really genuine guy who will be a good person to have around, wont complain and is willing to always learn. He is very good at making late/recovering tackles, which is mostly what you saw at your place. He's got a pretty good leap on him too, perhaps needs to bulk up a bit, but isn't too bad at winning headers. Given time, he looks to play the right pass too. However, he is prone to getting caught ball watching and often leaves a big gap in behind him, which is why a lot of attention is towards his very good ability to slide in with some last ditch tackles. His first touch isn't too sharp, and the words, 'second touch a tackle' are ones which have often been attributed to him. He also doesn't cope too well on the ball when pressed, it can tend to end up out of play. Obviously, all weaknesses with a game can be worked on, but at 24 he's not a young lad, and I think more was probably expected of him by now. I think the biggest dissapointment for us is that he has all the athletic atributes to be a good player. He's pretty quick, no weakling, can throw himseld into a tackle, but it's the more mental/technical aspects which he lacks. With regards to him being a centre-mid. I think it can work if he's in a midfield 5, and his main focus is to break things up, but in the Prem where those type of players are expected to then start the play, in a sort of 'playmaker' role, I think you'd see him struggle. His short passing game isn't all that great and often plays other players into trouble. I am quite suprised you've gone for him (well, not as much after you did in Jan) but we assumed that was to try and mess with his head and unsettle a player who was well liked by all the players/staff when we were a threat to automatic promotion. (although that threat quickly died down, so maybe it did have an impact?) As I said, he's someone who will be well liked by all your staff and players as he's a good chap who doesn't step out of line, always gives his all and doesn't complain. I see he wishes to cement himself a place in your team as a right-back, so good luck to the lad. But hand on heart, I don't think he'll prove to be someone who can cope with the Prem all too well, although I suppose if people like Craig Fagan can have 3 years in the Prem, there's hope for all of us. Good luck to him, and to you guys for the season ahead. Hughton's done a good job and deserves credit for steadying the ship and getting you back up at the first time of asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds 0 Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 Honesty and humility. It's like a breath of fresh air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibble 0 Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 Honesty and humility. It's like a breath of fresh air. Aye. Objectivity rules. Problem is it'll never last in the premier league bubble, sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8949 Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 ... I think the biggest dissapointment for us is that he has all the athletic atributes to be a good player. He's pretty quick, no weakling, can throw himseld into a tackle, but it's the more mental/technical aspects which he lacks... I smell a Bramble... cheers for the post though FooW where do you reckon you'll end up this season? what do you reckon you need to sign to ensure your promotion? What do you think went wrong last season? Who do you think are the danger teams for you this year? Who would you want from Newcastle United (that you would reasonably get?) Which players do you want to sign (reasonably) Which players do you think you'll sign? How do you think Pompey will do this year? Not being funny but do you think the Championship will get less attention now that West Brom and ourselves are back in the Premiership? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8949 Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 by the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2188 Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 Oh dear, don't like that appraisal from FooW (cheers for taking the trouble by the way). Sounds a bit like a makeweight fished from the CCC bargain bucket. Hope he turns out better than he sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2188 Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 by the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38559 Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 by the way Points go to NZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish_Out_Of_Water 0 Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 (edited) ... I think the biggest dissapointment for us is that he has all the athletic atributes to be a good player. He's pretty quick, no weakling, can throw himseld into a tackle, but it's the more mental/technical aspects which he lacks... I smell a Bramble... cheers for the post though FooW where do you reckon you'll end up this season? what do you reckon you need to sign to ensure your promotion? What do you think went wrong last season? Who do you think are the danger teams for you this year? Who would you want from Newcastle United (that you would reasonably get?) Which players do you want to sign (reasonably) Which players do you think you'll sign? How do you think Pompey will do this year? Not being funny but do you think the Championship will get less attention now that West Brom and ourselves are back in the Premiership? It's hard to say where we'll end up. With no signing, top half, if we get what we need top 6 again. To have a real shot at promotion, we need a left-back, centre-mid, left-mid and maybe a striker if the others leave. We're after Shorey, Pratley and Whittingham at the min and if we got those 3, I think we'll be contenders. What went wrong was mainly behind losing Shorey, we were unbeaten in his spell and he was top drawer, it was like having a an extra centre-mid on the pitch, so good was his touch, passing and awareness. Dangers teams are obviously the three coming down, regardless of their troubles, Boro' seem to have organised themselves, QPR will be there or thereabouts too. I don't know if there's anyone at your club who we could realistically get as it stands. I'd like us to sign Pratley, Shorey (although I think we'll see him wait for a Prem move) Jay Bothroyd and a left-mid, i'm not overly fussed by Peter Whittingham, despite his goals last season I don't think he'd fit into our team and what we need on the wing. I think we'll get Pratley, we'll get a left-back, but it's more likely to be this Norwegian fella we've been looking at than Shorey I imagine, dont see us getting Whittingham, think he'll go to Celtic. I can see Pompey being up there. They've not lost many yet and they've kept their core. Although i'd like to see them struggle for morale and selfish reasons. I would have said yes, however I think with Leeds coming back up and Pompey coming down, that will maintain a lot of the attention. With regards to Perch look-a-likes, his nickname from the other players was... Edited July 8, 2010 by Fish_Out_Of_Water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 13968 Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34167 Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 Away with a few Forest fans this weekend, three of them season ticket holders. When I first asked what they thought they all laughed. They eventually gave a serious answer which was that he's a useful player to have around as he can fill in in various positions, but he's very average in all of them. He's error-prone apparently, and according to them cost them the match in the playoff semi-final. They all said they hoped he did well though as he is a genuinely decent lad who puts the yards in. They won't be missing him though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 by the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jusoda Kid 1 Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 Got a skinny, weaker bramble wrote all over it this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gejon 2 Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 Got a skinny, weaker bramble wrote all over it this Sounds good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 12736 Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 I'm seeing this as the cue for Ryan Taylor to be shown the door tbh. And, let's be honest, Perch couldn't be any worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 Away with a few Forest fans this weekend, three of them season ticket holders. When I first asked what they thought they all laughed. They eventually gave a serious answer which was that he's a useful player to have around as he can fill in in various positions, but he's very average in all of them. He's error-prone apparently, and according to them cost them the match in the playoff semi-final. They all said they hoped he did well though as he is a genuinely decent lad who puts the yards in. They won't be missing him though. Not sure how much faith i put into these sort of anecdotes, if a Wigan fan had been out with me the weekend they signed N'Zogbia i'd have told them he was shite. Same for Villa and Milner (well not shite but not worth 12m anyway). I'd have been fairly wrong. Not saying they are wrong but its important to keep some perspective on comments on players leaving a club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay 8 Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 I missed this - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...est/8806001.stm It could be worse for us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sniffer 0 Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 Acquisitions panel? Never heard of that before and I'm surprised it doesn't include the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggiespaws 0 Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 Away with a few Forest fans this weekend, three of them season ticket holders. When I first asked what they thought they all laughed. They eventually gave a serious answer which was that he's a useful player to have around as he can fill in in various positions, but he's very average in all of them. He's error-prone apparently, and according to them cost them the match in the playoff semi-final. They all said they hoped he did well though as he is a genuinely decent lad who puts the yards in. They won't be missing him though. That's pretty much the same story I've heard from the 2 Forest ST holders I know. Not inspiring..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giraffidae 0 Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 Acquisitions panel? Never heard of that before and I'm surprised it doesn't include the manager. David Pleat is the head of their Acquisitions Panel which was set up after David Platt wasted millions when he was in charge. Billy Davies accepted this set up when he was appointed, as the manager he does recommend potential targets to the panel — they ignore him — and he then goes on one of his infamous rants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen 0 Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 May I just add this to the thread... Jesus. Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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