Newcastle United 1-2 Stoke City

[MattM4 0]

Chris Hughton forgot his brain again this afternoon...

[loonyTOON 10]

I'm so fucking pissed off right now. What the fuck is Perch and Nolan doing on the pitch?????? Nolan's a fast bastard that couldn't even outrun a snail and perch does one thing right, and three wrong!! Whats the problem is Raylor?

[acrossthepond 703]

Shite defending from set pieces cost us this match. Wonder what we were doing in training over the past week.

 

Disagree, shite going forward. You can't defend a 1-0 lead vs Stoke at home for 45 minutes. Routledge should have come off for Guti, he was shite, and Ameobi on for Nolan, can't drop the captain though.

 

Spot on, Nolan was useless except for a well taken penalty that Barton could've taken just as well, and Routledge gave us nothing. Jonas on the other hand was killing them down the left side and Tiote was one of our best players.

 

Hughton's got that one wrong, no excuses. We should never have lost that game.

[@yourservice 67]

Bringing Tiote off was the baffler like!

[Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1]

Perch is an easy scapegoat. We lost our control of the midfield when Arfa/Tiote came off and were even more infertile going forward. Routledge was shit and picked the ball up moving into our own half all the time. The only time he makes a forward run he's offside, either goes backwards or sideways and his final delivery is shit. Should start with Guti on the right imo and Routledge on the bench.

[Andrew 4212]

Fucks sake, Blackpool all over again.

 

And some please break Perch's legs before the next game. He does nothing but get booked and put the ball in his own net.

 

james perch, was being climbed on for the first by huth, scored their second

 

has been booked in EVERY game so far

 

is shit and shouldnt not play if we have ANY other player fit to play there

[TicTacWoe 0]

think everyone's going a bit overboard here, yeah we've lost to two of the beatable teams but weve also beaten two of the teams we wernt expected to beat so Id say were still on course for a stunning 13th place finish this season.

[Kevin 1]

Bringing Tiote off was the baffler like!

 

[XVentura 0]

Shite defending from set pieces cost us this match. Wonder what we were doing in training over the past week.

 

Disagree, shite going forward. You can't defend a 1-0 lead vs Stoke at home for 45 minutes. Routledge should have come off for Guti, he was shite, and Ameobi on for Nolan, can't drop the captain though.

 

Agreed about us being shite going forward, but our defending on the two set pieces prior to Jones' goal was just a sign of things to come. You could feel a goal coming from them because we had look so shaky from set pieces. None of our players seemed to have been designated someone to mark, it was just mark the man next to you, which was why Perch ended up marking Huth.

[Anorthernsoul 1221]

Why did he take both Tiote and Ben Arfa off?

 

I've never rated Perch, he's suspect as fuck and this afternoon proved it.

 

Fucking Stoke man.

[Kevin 1]

wait

tiote came offff????????

[Andrew 4212]

I'm so fucking pissed off right now. What the fuck is Perch and Nolan doing on the pitch?????? Nolan's a fast bastard that couldn't even outrun a snail and perch does one thing right, and three wrong!! Whats the problem is Raylor?

[TicTacWoe 0]

Fucks sake, Blackpool all over again.

 

And some please break Perch's legs before the next game. He does nothing but get booked and put the ball in his own net.

 

james perch, was being climbed on for the first by huth, scored their second

 

has been booked in EVERY game so far

 

is shit and shouldnt not play if we have ANY other player fit to play there

 

Ryan Taylor is at least good at free kicks and has the odd good game, Perch just doesnt look up to this league whatsoever

[JaMoUsE 0]

you have to play 2 centre forwards at home.

 

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[TicTacWoe 0]

Also, I'd really like to see Nolan dropped

[Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1]

I hate how lackadaisical we got after scoring the pen, same thing happened when we went 3-1 up vs chelsea and they went down to 10, Hughton needs to start firing some rockets up some arses

[jaythesouthernmag 0]

Possibly the 2 worst substitutions ever and cost the game, Houghton showing a complete lack of nouse/bottle

[Wavey Davey 0]

Ugh..... Just Ugh....

[loonyTOON 10]

Perch is an easy scapegoat. We lost our control of the midfield when Arfa/Tiote came off and were even more infertile going forward. Routledge was shit and picked the ball up moving into our own half all the time. The only time he makes a forward run he's offside, either goes backwards or sideways and his final delivery is shit. Should start with Guti on the right imo and Routledge on the bench.

 

Routledge wasn't shit! What game were you watching? His pace alone causes problems, so he doesn't cut defences apart like championship, so what? He works so hard, beats his man most times and gets back and defends.

[Deano 0]

In the past under KK, SBR and to some extent RH we were undone by being too "gung ho" albeit entertaining for the fans and the neutrals.

 

Now though we are being undone, AT HOME, because we are being too fuckin cautious...the ironic thing is though we actually are quite good attacking wise.

 

Holding our nerve and concentration are massive attributes in games like this and its proven once again that although we look a good side, the problem still remains.

[Bizza 105]

Perch and Nolan to be dropped for the next game.

 

Off the Tyne Bridge preferably.

[Anorthernsoul 1221]

you have to play 2 centre forwards at home.

 

Close thread

 

True, we looked much more of a threat attacking wise with two up front on Wednesday, a lot more options going forward.

[Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1]

Perch is an easy scapegoat. We lost our control of the midfield when Arfa/Tiote came off and were even more infertile going forward. Routledge was shit and picked the ball up moving into our own half all the time. The only time he makes a forward run he's offside, either goes backwards or sideways and his final delivery is shit. Should start with Guti on the right imo and Routledge on the bench.

 

Routledge wasn't shit! What game were you watching? His pace alone causes problems, so he doesn't cut defences apart like championship, so what? He works so hard, beats his man most times and gets back and defends.

 

Every time he got the ball he was making a run towards his own goal. He is too cowardly to make runs in behind because he knows his delivery/end product is shit, Arfa put it on a plate for him in the box and he took a terrible first touch. I don't hate Routledge but he's a very limited player, he will carry the ball around at pace (most sideways/backwards), but that's it.

[NJS 3977]

I also have to say that I agree with all the opinions on Routledge as a championship player - not good enough.

 

In a completely OTT/pissed off vain I'd also say I didn't see that much difference today between Tiote and Amdy Faye.

[OTF 6139]

What a spectacular capitulation that was. It was almost like Stoke were employing the rope a dope tactic from the start. Letting us get a false sense of security despite having a largely toothless attack.

 

Really have to question the tactics behind the substitutions. Why Ben Arfa instead of Routledge. Ben Arfa was clearly the more potent of the two, unless your measure of potentcy is ability to run into empty channels. And Tiote, why take him off when he'd been one of our better players? Substituting an attacking player for a defensive one does not mean that you'll get more attacking play. It was Tiote's movement that helped to facilitate the movement of the ball from side to side in the first half allowing our wing men to penetrate. If he was kept out there we might have seen the benefit of having both Ameobi and Carroll out there. Carroll had a relatively poor game, didn't get into it early and his touch looked poor in the second half. Nothing more needs to be said about Perch - There's a point where effort isn't enough, he's found that point and continues to forage well past it time and time again.

 

Our defenders looked weak against their set plays time and time again. Maybe this would have been a handy game to have the physical presence of Campbell out there?

 

In the end that was some very critical points that we let get away from ourselves from a team that effectively played the exact tactics that anyone would expect from them.