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@Dr Gloom Just wanted to pop in say I should have listened to you! All those years ago when you were being ridiculed for your obsession with nutrition and nuts and good fats etc, you were bang on.

 

Somehow found my way on to a Keto diet and in only 10 days (I know :lol:  ), it’s quite incredible how it changes you.

 

So little hunger that I find myself unintentionally fasting for 18 hours.

 

Sweet tooth & carb cravings vanished

 

Unbelievable increase in energy and mental focus ( almost like the bloke off limitless). 
 

Eating nuts and flax seed etc

 

And of course weight dropping off.

 

It really is incredible how hunger just disappears and you get all these added side effects.

 

Anyway, well done trailblazer :)

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Well, at least the lack of calories isn't affecting your mood.

He’s dead. Found looking like Christopher McCandless

Must be the lack of meat fucking with your faculties. A veggie that can't do maths, the arcade creeper, and the Mexican Viagra muncher trying to tell me what I can and can't eat. Absolute fucking libe

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Cut out the fats and proteins too. 
 

 

 

 

( Funny how there’s just been a fat club programme on TV based on Keto-  Lose a Stone in 21 Days. Don’t watch it though, chaps, as the presenter has a lisp and you might catch The Gay.) 

 

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Tried low carb/high fat before but couldn’t keep it up long term as I’m a veggie.

It’s a good short term fix if you‘ve got six weeks to shed some fat before a beach holiday but not sustainable in my experience.

You definitely don’t want to be the douche bag who says they can’t go for pizza because they’re on paleo/keto/Atkins/whatever the latest fad diet is. 

These days, what works for me is healthy eating most of the time (I still snack on nuts and seeds and add flax to porridge) but I allow myself everything in moderation (and occasionally to excess). If you stick to that most of the time, and burn more calories than you consume, you’ll maintain that fabulous 32” waist 

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My lass wanted to do that Fast 800 thing to shift the lockdown timber fast, so I jumped on it as well cos I had a good bit to shift too. Down 15 pounds in the first two weeks. Think I'll stick with it til a stone and a half has gone - it's genuinely a piece of piss if you stick with the low carb approach cos you basically don't get hungry despite the massive undereating of calories. 

 

Can definitely see me trying normal keto once this is finished cos the alternative is I find myself back with all the weight on in 6 months. 

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Ketosis is just the natural way the body is meant to work. Energy from fats not carbs. It’s so easy and you basically find yourself naturally on one meal a day. Nearly one and half stone down in 6 weeks and just full of energy all the time.

 

Diet doctor on YouTube is a great explainer on all the benefits. Being used all over the world to get diabetics off medicine as well.

 

(Great Bond villain voice as well).

 

 

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It's the reported benefits for insulin resistance and heart disease that caught my attention though. Plus the fact that, lack of bread and pasta notwithstanding, dinners are lush cos they're full of butter and fat. 

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8 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

It's the reported benefits for insulin resistance and heart disease that caught my attention though. Plus the fact that, lack of bread and pasta notwithstanding, dinners are lush cos they're full of butter and fat. 


There’s a very good uk Facebook group (Keto fitness club), with lots of people who have “reversed” health issues be that diabetes, ibs etc. Full of recipes as well.

 

Some people have come off insulin in less than a week. Just have to be very careful in some circumstances to reduce medication prior to starting. All easy enough to get advice though through Diet Doctor of Keto Fitness club.

 

I’ve watched quite a few YouTube videos with Doctors discussing Keto and it’s quite shocking how the “norm” is still to throw medication at people rather than addressing their diets. It seems to be all the younger generation of Drs who are championing the many health benefits of Keto.

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Miracle cure for insulin dependent diabetics? Really? This sounds like dangerous quackery to me. Is there any hard data on this or just the usual collection of anecdotes? I mean, if its this effective it should be easy to measure. 

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4 minutes ago, Renton said:

Miracle cure for insulin dependent diabetics? Really? This sounds like dangerous quackery to me. Is there any hard data on this or just the usual collection of anecdotes? I mean, if its this effective it should be easy to measure. 

 

Prediabetics definitely. I don't know about full-blown. 

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Ahh, youtube, that well known repository of scientific facts. 

 

I mean there are actual doctors and scientists with YouTube channels. I deleted my post anyway cos it was meant to be in response to CT. So FUCK YOU FATTY. 

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5 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

 

Prediabetics definitely. I don't know about full-blown. 

I was quoting CT about people stopping insulin. People on insulin are full blown diabetics, normally type 1. They tend to die quite quickly if they stop taking it. 

 

There has been done good research on how diet changes can help type 2 diabetes and prediabetes. But I've not seen anything that suggests miraculous results. What I have seen over the years is many diets promoted as miracle interventions for weight loss and health. None last that long though, Atkins for instance. So I'll reserve my right to be skeptical.  

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"High carbohydrate intake was associated with higher risk of total mortality, whereas total fat and individual types of fat were related to lower total mortality. Total fat and types of fat were not associated with cardiovascular disease, myocardial infarction, or cardiovascular disease mortality, whereas saturated fat had an inverse association with stroke. Global dietary guidelines should be reconsidered in light of these findings."

 

Seems like a pretty straightforward conclusion. Anyway look I'm not here to evangelise, I'm just planning on doing it to keep weight off cos the other way (calorie restriction on a standard high carb diet) is basically impossible. 

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Fair enough,.just to point out that the research is observational so you can't really draw conclusions on causality. It's frustrating but diet research tends to be garbage. Agree about calorie counting too but I suspect a lot of your weight loss will actually be down to you de facto reducing your calorie count.

 

I need to lose weight like. Stopping beer at the weekend is too difficult at the moment, so I've decided to exercise more. I'm walking 5 miles a day including as many inclines as I can. I'm almost tempted to start running but getting showered and changed is a big issue. 

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17 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

"High carbohydrate intake was associated with higher risk of total mortality, whereas total fat and individual types of fat were related to lower total mortality. Total fat and types of fat were not associated with cardiovascular disease, myocardial infarction, or cardiovascular disease mortality, whereas saturated fat had an inverse association with stroke. Global dietary guidelines should be reconsidered in light of these findings."

 

Seems like a pretty straightforward conclusion. Anyway look I'm not here to evangelise, I'm just planning on doing it to keep weight off cos the other way (calorie restriction on a standard high carb diet) is basically impossible. 

you can eat as many carbs as you like as long as you burn more calories than you consume. 

macros are important, depending on what your goals are. but portion control beats everything else, in my experience. particularly because its sustainable. fad diets rarely are in the long term. 

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