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Dekka for the bullet ?

 

Would be the best move Ashley could make but it wont happen.

 

The cock ups of the striker situation may force a re-think in transfer negotiation or personnel but I would be surprised if that but Llambias under threat.

This is who we should be directing any protest at.

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Pardew will not leave while he is still getting results on the pitch. If the results don't come then the pressure will mount, but of anyone it's likely to be Ashley that pulls the pin on it. Despite the 5 year contract I would imagine that there would only be a nominal payout figure in the case of a sacking as Pardew was not negotiating from a position of power.

 

In terms of his work as a manager, he's been neither spectacular nor miserable. The experienced players in the side saw things through last season, and this season despite poor performances the results have been coming. Across a full season it will be telling. I'm sure he had hoped that additional players were signed, and was probably told that they would be, but at the end of the day he knows he's manager in name only so will continue to do the best he can under the circumstances. I'm yet to be convinced that his best will be good enough.

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Pardew will not leave while he is still getting results on the pitch. If the results don't come then the pressure will mount, but of anyone it's likely to be Ashley that pulls the pin on it. Despite the 5 year contract I would imagine that there would only be a nominal payout figure in the case of a sacking as Pardew was not negotiating from a position of power.

 

In terms of his work as a manager, he's been neither spectacular nor miserable. The experienced players in the side saw things through last season, and this season despite poor performances the results have been coming. Across a full season it will be telling. I'm sure he had hoped that additional players were signed, and was probably told that they would be, but at the end of the day he knows he's manager in name only so will continue to do the best he can under the circumstances. I'm yet to be convinced that his best will be good enough.

 

I think he's mediocre at best and always will be. That said mediocre is the best we can hope for. I sincerely doubt any top manager would be interested in working with our scumbag owner and his sidekick. As others have said, we could do infinitely worse and probably will do if and when Pardoo goes. The best you can hope for under the current lot would be an up and coming manager who proves to be a winner. More likely is a fat dissolute washed up old has-been like Kinnear.

 

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The first manager Ashley has appointed that knows what the job is and will be under no illusions about what just happened in the window.

 

He'll not walk because of that...and he'll not be sacked. His contract is up for renewal in 4 years time....and we might get someone else in then who won't ask for more money

 

We could be in the Championship by that time and it wouldn't matter.

 

This is something I'm 99% sure of and have in the predictions thread.

 

The other 1% is based on him getting us in the Champions League and being poached, Ashley would gladly take compensation in that scenario...but can't really see it happening.

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Dekka for the bullet ?

 

Would be the best move Ashley could make but it wont happen.

 

The cock ups of the striker situation may force a re-think in transfer negotiation or personnel but I would be surprised if that but Llambias under threat.

This is who we should be directing any protest at.

 

Wonder how happy Llambias is getting all the stick he does for £100k a year or whatever paltry sum he's on.

 

Wouldn't be surprised to see him say he's had enough before Ashley pushes him. 54 year old now, hoping at the end of the season he just kicks back and enjoys the Casino business....or retires early.

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Wouldn't be surprised to see him say he's had enough before Ashley pushes him. 54 year old now, hoping at the end of the season he just kicks back and enjoys the Casino business....or retires early.

 

 

Why would he leave? Being MD at NUFC must be a cushy number, no real decisions to make, all he has to do is deal with the minor day to day shit.

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The sight of Mike Ashley doing a strip tease at a bash for his Sports Direct staff revealed more than his ample beer gut.

 

Even if you found it tacky and tasteless, here was a boss who mucks in at a party with a tight-knit core of trusted staff.

 

A boss who thinks nothing of making a fool of himself, and being one of the lads, his billionaire fortune irrelevant.

 

He’s popular with his Sports Direct workforce, knows his market inside out, rewards staff handsomely for success, and has their total loyalty (apart from the one who took the pics).

 

Contrast that with his other empire, Newcastle United.

 

Ashley still trusts few people in football. He keeps plenty of them at arms length, not respecting football’s way of doing things.

 

And he thinks he’s been had over, business-wise, by too many footballing rivals in recent years.

 

All of this explains to some extent - but doesn’t excuse - last week’s failure to sign a striker.

 

All Ashley, and MD Derek Llambias needed to do was lay down an extra couple of million quid or so for their chosen striker targets – whether that be Mevlut Erdinc who they chased for months, Modibo Maiga, or Papiss Demba Cisse.

 

They’d screwed the maximum out of Liverpool for Andy Carroll, got decent money for Kevin Nolan and bought French international Yohan Cabaye for what could be a bargain.

 

With £30million in cash from the Carroll deal in the bank, they perhaps should have realised they may have to pay over the odds, just this once to complete their squad.

 

With that new striker, they’d have had a content manager, a squad happy with new faces, and a fan base thinking the club was being ambitious.

 

Instead, despite some decent arrivals (balanced by heavy weight departures), Ashley and Llambias have sold the club short again this summer.

 

They’ve taken a gamble that the likes of Leon Best, Shola Ameobi and Demba Ba can see the club through until January in good shape.

 

The famous No9 shirt will remain vacant, but is still sponsored by a local dental business!

 

Cynics suggest it is retired in honour of Alan Shearer and Jackie Milburn. Another way to save a few bob?

 

The club have let down Pardew who has provided a strong start to build on.

 

They have sent another signal that their regime isn’t about having a crack at finishing best of the rest – just outside the top six.

 

In fact they’ve shown that they will spend the minimum amount to stay in the top flight, while keeping the balance sheet looking healthy.

 

There is plenty of merit in Newcastle’s transfer policy. Discover young players who will increase in value and make their name on Tyneside.

 

(Admittedly to be sold on at a huge profit a couple of years later, but at least they will have meant they’ve done well.)

 

During the summer Pardew did his best to delicately press the right buttons with his bosses and get a striker signed.

 

That was why he went on record to say he needed a new front man and a left back to make his squad stronger than last season (he got the left back in Davide Santon).

 

It is an occupational hazard for any manager at St James’ Park that such quotes comes back to haunt you – just like his declarations that Andy Carroll wouldn’t be sold.

 

The conclusion, from Pardew’s quote is that Newcastle are now have a weaker squad than in May.

 

But it is not Pardew‘s doing that a deal couldn’t be sealed. He has been left frustrated and angry at being left a striker short.

 

Llambias explained that: “We will not make knee jerk decisions at the last minute which are not in the best interests of the club.”

 

But having been presented with a list of a dozen possible targets, and had seven months to secure one after Carroll’s departure, that doesn’t wash.

 

One of those stop gap targets was Arsenal’s Niklas Bendtner who was secured late on by Sunderland on a loan deal and would surely have done a job for Newcastle too.

 

So where does Pardew go from here?

 

He has a strong hand personally - boosted by a good start to the season. He deserved to be backed and will feel aggrieved he wasn’t.

 

He has the balancing act of dealing with those who run the club, and the players and fans, often with conflicting agendas. And he’s the only person left to face the music in public.

 

Can he persuade key players to sign extended deals? The events of last Wednesday won’t help.

 

Thankfully Pardew is a fine coach.

 

This season he’s got his selections right, his tactics spot on, used his substitutes well and kept a team ethic bubbling on the surface.

 

Now he just needs some loyalty and backing from above when January (hardly the best month to do business) comes around.

 

That doesn’t have to come in the form of a birthday party strip-tease, but in the form of a fresh striking talent.

 

Simon Bird copying my posts again. :icon_lol:

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What Bird mentions is that Ashley is happy to have a bit of craic with the workers and pick up the bar tab until SD figures are down and cuts have to be made, at which point he will have no problem in slashing jobs and wages and won't give a fuck what the workers think of him.

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:icon_lol:

(which I am)

 

[ a bit of a tit with nothing much to say about anything ]

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Exhibition?

 

no idea wtf you are harping on about kiddah

 

 

 

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what about it ?

 

You were getting a mention on Newcastle Online this morning.

 

are they still obsessed with me, do they now realise I was right all along ? :icon_lol: [like mancmag, gloomy etc but won't admit it either]

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All Ashley, and MD Derek Llambias needed to do was lay down an extra couple of million quid or so for their chosen striker targets – whether that be Mevlut Erdinc who they chased for months, Modibo Maiga, or Papiss Demba Cisse.

 

They’d screwed the maximum out of Liverpool for Andy Carroll, got decent money for Kevin Nolan and bought French international Yohan Cabaye for what could be a bargain.

 

With £30million in cash from the Carroll deal in the bank, they perhaps should have realised they may have to pay over the odds, just this once to complete their squad.

 

With that new striker, they’d have had a content manager, a squad happy with new faces, and a fan base thinking the club was being ambitious.

 

Spot-on.

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:icon_lol:

(which I am)

 

[ a bit of a tit with nothing much to say about anything ]

:o

Exhibition?

 

no idea wtf you are harping on about kiddah

 

 

 

logo.jpg

 

what about it ?

 

You were getting a mention on Newcastle Online this morning.

 

are they still obsessed with me, do they now realise I was right all along ? :icon_lol: [like mancmag, gloomy etc but won't admit it either]

 

Didnt really take a lot of notice it was just something about you and someone called Ozzie?

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Carver: Pardew won't walk away from NUFC

 

GEORDIE coach John Carver has described talk of Alan Pardew walking away from St James’ Park as “simply absurd” following Newcastle United’s best start to a Premier League season since the 1995/96 campaign.

 

Some bookmakers slashed Pardew’s odds of becoming the first manager to leave his job from 12/1 to 3/1 last week.

 

But the Chronicle can reveal that Pardew is currently out of the country and scouting international matches during the Premier League break, with preparations for January already under way.

 

Carver and fellow Tyneside native Steve Stone have been an integral part of Pardew’s tenure with the Magpies, with the Londoner helping to make the black-and-whites a hard-to-beat unit.

 

And just eight defeats from 27 matches in charge is testament to the work at the club’s Benton base.

 

Carver told the Chronicle: “Why is his position in doubt?

 

 

“This has been a good start for us, we have picked up seven points from three matches and we’re into the third round of the Carling Cup. We are going in the right direction.

 

“If you had told people we would have what we have now they would have snapped your hands off.

 

“How can people question the position of the manager? It’s absurd.”

 

Carver has been looking after training at the club’s Benton base with players who aren’t on international duty, and United yesterday recalled Michael Richardson from his loan stint with Leyton Orient.

 

Carver and Pardew were disappointed not to bring in a No 9 on transfer deadline day but, while the frustration of not luring a striker still persists, the assistant manager says building the team is work in progress.

 

He said: “Just because the window is shut it doesn’t mean that the work stops.

 

“The manager is away looking at games this week and out of the country.

 

“We work with what we have now until January and then go from there.”

 

The former assistant to Sir Bobby Robson was part of the backroom set-up 10 years ago when the Magpies solidified their place in the top flight before pushing on to bigger things.

 

And he said he was satisfied with the work behind the scenes.

 

He said: “The window is shut, but the training work has been great.

 

 

“Sometimes it is difficult during an international break when people are away and you haven’t got a game.

 

“But everybody is together here and determined to keep up this great start.

 

“We have QPR next and winning that game is our next target.”

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Pardew is currently out of the country and scouting international matches during the Premier League break, with preparations for January already under way.

 

 

:icon_lol: Save yourself the hassle Alan and get a few days on a beach somewhere.

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Pardew is currently out of the country and scouting international matches during the Premier League break, with preparations for January already under way.

 

 

:icon_lol: Save yourself the hassle Alan and get a few days on a beach somewhere.

 

 

Probably gone to watch Erik Pieters again just for a laugh. I hear Roeder is out there too, on the lookout for someone called Dirk Kuyt.

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I know every now and again we compare Managers and was wondering how Pardew is doing against the normal list.

 

I have him down as played 25 won 10 drawn Drawn 10 Lost 5 with a win ratio of 40%

 

Just a rough tot up so may be out.

 

Anyone know where the other manager stats are for comparison.

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I know every now and again we compare Managers and was wondering how Pardew is doing against the normal list.

 

I have him down as played 25 won 10 drawn Drawn 10 Lost 5 with a win ratio of 40%

 

Just a rough tot up so may be out.

 

Anyone know where the other manager stats are for comparison.

 

Nicos normally has all that shit to hand. :icon_lol:

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I know every now and again we compare Managers and was wondering how Pardew is doing against the normal list.

 

I have him down as played 25 won 10 drawn Drawn 10 Lost 5 with a win ratio of 40%

 

Just a rough tot up so may be out.

 

Anyone know where the other manager stats are for comparison.

 

Nicos normally has all that shit to hand. :icon_lol:

 

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_New...d_F.C._managers

 

Half as good as hughton. Worse than roeder and allardyce.

 

Nowt to write home about

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