ewerk 26247 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 No footballers, not watching. That's all you need to know about the general likeability of British footballers. Pity it wasn't a totally public vote, it'd have been nice to see Giggs up for it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Aye honestly, who gives a shit about it anymore. I wouldn't care if the show was still the sports review of the year, but it's utter fucking crap even outside of the nominations these days. I used to love it but I would actually struggle to remember the last time I watched it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetleftpeg 0 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Mark Cavendish for me. Proper sportsman, and knobbing a page 3 girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 16574 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Mark Cavendish for me. Proper sportsman, and knobbing a page 3 girl. I was stood next to her at the National Champs, god yes I would until it dropped off! Giggs deserves a shout now, more than when he won it. He was great for Man Ure last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26247 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Looks like there's going to be a bit of a fuss made over the fact that there's no women on the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 16574 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Looks like there's going to be a bit of a fuss made over the fact that there's no women on the list. Just had a women on 5Live. "The sports writers even wrote their articles for the men" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Would like to see Darren Clarke win it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34351 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Can't help but think that the BBC have done this no women thing to try and get a bit of publicity for a concept that is dying on its arse. Nobody is making a bigger fuss about the fact that it's caused a big fuss than BBC News. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26247 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 The BBC don't create the shortlist though, it's journos all over the country afaik. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleeToonFan 1 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 What woman ever deserves anything like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26247 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Zara Phillips won it entirely on merit and because of the nation's love of horse cantering over fences. Not because she's a royal, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13830 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I bet there's been plenty of years where women haven't had a look in because in a sporting context they haven't deserved it. However on a personal level I really couldn't care about SPOTY and I can't say I ever really have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14030 Posted November 30, 2011 Author Share Posted November 30, 2011 It's a bit rough that there's no women on the list when the likes of Amir Khan and Andy Murray have made it, but then a male taekwondo world champion wouldn't get on there either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13830 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Yes it's certainly a bit harsh there isn't one woman on there but you get the impression that if it's written by journalists then it's naturally going to satisfy popular demand which is the point of the competition. I'm sure women don't want to be there on tokenism & instead they want to be there on merit. So rather than criticise the public interest perhaps they could look at the efforts of female athletes or the promotion of their sports? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Why is Steven Taylor not on the list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinofbeans 86 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Mark Cavendish should win it, had a phenomenal year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14030 Posted November 30, 2011 Author Share Posted November 30, 2011 I'm sure women don't want to be there on tokenism & instead they want to be there on merit. So rather than criticise the public interest perhaps they could look at the efforts of female athletes or the promotion of their sports? This is one area where I do understand the complaints of Tanni Grey-Thompson et al - there's no doubt that in team sports, say, and even tennis/athletics to an extent, the male version gets the lion's share of the media coverage. On the other hand, the male version is always going to be the "elite" at a human level, and hence more interesting to the non-enthusiast - rightly or wrongly, nobody would really care if there was a female equivalent to Usain Bolt, for example (just ask the man on the street who Carmelita Jeter is - the fastest female ever if you ignore the clownish dope fiend that was FloJo, but no real public profile at all). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Zara Phillips won it entirely on merit and because of the nation's love of horse cantering over fences. Not because she's a royal, of course. Two horses, in her case. Also since when has Andy Murray had a personality? Dour bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13830 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Meenzer - Pretty much spot on I suppose, where there are fine female athletes the corresponding male version of the game tends to always be better for the spectator. In addition to this I would also say men have a bit better banter when it comes to sport & often have a laugh and take the piss which increases the entertainment value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 1 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 I'm sure women don't want to be there on tokenism & instead they want to be there on merit. So rather than criticise the public interest perhaps they could look at the efforts of female athletes or the promotion of their sports? This is one area where I do understand the complaints of Tanni Grey-Thompson et al - there's no doubt that in team sports, say, and even tennis/athletics to an extent, the male version gets the lion's share of the media coverage. On the other hand, the male version is always going to be the "elite" at a human level, and hence more interesting to the non-enthusiast - rightly or wrongly, nobody would really care if there was a female equivalent to Usain Bolt, for example (just ask the man on the street who Carmelita Jeter is - the fastest female ever if you ignore the clownish dope fiend that was FloJo, but no real public profile at all). The crux of the matter is that female sportstars just aren't as good as their male equivalents. McEnroe reckoned a few years ago that he would still comfortably beat the top women tennis players. Serena Williams criticised him for it but didn't fancy having a game to prove him wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 16574 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 I'm sure women don't want to be there on tokenism & instead they want to be there on merit. So rather than criticise the public interest perhaps they could look at the efforts of female athletes or the promotion of their sports? This is one area where I do understand the complaints of Tanni Grey-Thompson et al - there's no doubt that in team sports, say, and even tennis/athletics to an extent, the male version gets the lion's share of the media coverage. On the other hand, the male version is always going to be the "elite" at a human level, and hence more interesting to the non-enthusiast - rightly or wrongly, nobody would really care if there was a female equivalent to Usain Bolt, for example (just ask the man on the street who Carmelita Jeter is - the fastest female ever if you ignore the clownish dope fiend that was FloJo, but no real public profile at all). The crux of the matter is that female sportstars just aren't as good as their male equivalents. McEnroe reckoned a few years ago that he would still comfortably beat the top women tennis players. Serena Williams criticised him for it but didn't fancy having a game to prove him wrong. It doesnt help either that there isnt many female sports jurnos too in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 That's because they're shit too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 16574 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 That's because they're shit too. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 1 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 That's because they're shit too. Agreed Whenever they have that Amy Lawrence bird on the Guardian Football Podcast I put my foot through the ipod and send AC Jimbo the bill. They were arguing over which is better, halloumi or feta yesterday btw. Only the Guardian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 16574 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 That's because they're shit too. Agreed Whenever they have that Amy Lawrence bird on the Guardian Football Podcast I put my foot through the ipod and send AC Jimbo the bill. They were arguing over which is better, halloumi or feta yesterday btw. Only the Guardian. How awful is she man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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