Deano 0 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Regardless of how the game used to be played and how it is played now...from a footballing point of view...should tiote of been sent off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flair 0 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Two sides to it: The tackle itself he lunged out and if he hadn't got the ball, it could have been a serious injury for the player. In that respect, yes and no. However, he didn't get the player so no and yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Should it have been a red: No Will it be rescinded: No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Essenbtially he kicked the ball away from the player. If that is a red card then send off all 22 men before the game starts and let's pack our bags and go to communist china Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inglez 0 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Should it have been a red: NoWill it be rescinded: No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Is he on something like eight yellows and a red now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Serious business here guys. He's got to learn to control himself. This isn't the first time we've seen this. It's should have not should of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8989 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Serious business here guys. He's got to learn to control himself. This isn't the first time we've seen this. It's should have not should of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo 0 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 No way was that a red and I recon once they look at it again it'll be recinded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Let's see if we appeal for it first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia 0 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 (edited) Tiote's momentum made it look much, much, much worse than it actually was. The FA wont admit Marriner was probably incorrect to send him off though. I'm going by the laws of De Jong - if a player makes contact with the ball as well as the man then any tackle is fair game. Considering Tiote didn't even make contact with the man then it's never a foul. Edited January 9, 2011 by Ketsbaia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26282 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Once both feet leave the ground it's a red card. Whether it should be or not is irrelevant, the fact is that a red card is the punishment and Tiote would have known that. Whether he got the ball or not is no longer taken into consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavey Davey 0 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 I've seen worse go unpunished. Proper defenders tackle, that. but we deserved to go out regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 By the modern day laws of the game it's unfortunately a red. No point in bringing him on at all though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 6139 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Once both feet leave the ground it's a red card. Whether it should be or not is irrelevant, the fact is that a red card is the punishment and Tiote would have known that. Whether he got the ball or not is no longer taken into consideration. I don't know where this misconception has come from, but the laws of the game In reference to serious foul play say 'Any player who lunges at an opponent when challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both feet with excessive force and endangering the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious fouls play.' Tiote didn't lunge at another player and didn't endanger another player, end of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon_Man 0 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Pardew has already confirmed an appeal will be launched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26282 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Once both feet leave the ground it's a red card. Whether it should be or not is irrelevant, the fact is that a red card is the punishment and Tiote would have known that. Whether he got the ball or not is no longer taken into consideration. I don't know where this misconception has come from, but the laws of the game In reference to serious foul play say 'Any player who lunges at an opponent when challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both feet with excessive force and endangering the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious fouls play.' Tiote didn't lunge at another player and didn't endanger another player, end of story. Once both feet leave the ground you lose control and are endangering your opponent. Whether you do damage or not doesn't come into it, the challenge had the 'potential' to do damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 6139 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 By your reckoning if you're completely on your own and dive two footed to stop the ball (say to stop it from going out) you should be sent off. If it doesn't endanger another player, and isn't at[/] an opposition player then according to the laws of the game it isn't serious foul play and therefore isn't a red card. They're the indisputable facts. De Jong came across and went through Ben Arfa using excessive force and obviously more than just endangered his safety. The FA deemed that there was no foul committed there and so if they uphold this red it's further confirmation that they're limp wristed beurocrats with no balls. Unfortunately I fully believe that the farce will continue and they won't rescind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26282 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 By your reckoning if you're completely on your own and dive two footed to stop the ball (say to stop it from going out) you should be sent off. If it doesn't endanger another player, and isn't at[/] an opposition player then according to the laws of the game it isn't serious foul play and therefore isn't a red card. They're the indisputable facts. De Jong came across and went through Ben Arfa using excessive force and obviously more than just endangered his safety. The FA deemed that there was no foul committed there and so if they uphold this red it's further confirmation that they're limp wristed beurocrats with no balls. Unfortunately I fully believe that the farce will continue and they won't rescind it. Don't be ridiculous, when the opponent is in such close proximity to the ball when you're going for it then yes you are endangering the opponent. Whether it is right or wrong, that is the interpretation of the law that is currently being implemented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobbySol 0 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 By your reckoning if you're completely on your own and dive two footed to stop the ball (say to stop it from going out) you should be sent off. If it doesn't endanger another player, and isn't at[/] an opposition player then according to the laws of the game it isn't serious foul play and therefore isn't a red card. They're the indisputable facts. De Jong came across and went through Ben Arfa using excessive force and obviously more than just endangered his safety. The FA deemed that there was no foul committed there and so if they uphold this red it's further confirmation that they're limp wristed beurocrats with no balls. Unfortunately I fully believe that the farce will continue and they won't rescind it. My thoughts entirely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 for those who want another look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26282 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Beautiful tackle, unfortunately illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5902 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 It was a silly tackle whichever way you look at it and it was luck rather than judgement that meant the Stevenage player wasn't injured. You cant possibly be in control of the tackle when you are 3feet off the floor. If the Stevenage player got there first how was Tiote going to pull out? Also, it was in the opposition half, why take the risk? Not like it was an inevitable goal if he didn't put the tackle in. As someone who has just missed 3 months of the season with torn ankle ligaments due to a similar tackle that was a fraction later than that one, I can see it from both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 6139 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Looking at it again Tiote got to the ball first and didn't go through their player, there was contact but it was as much initiated by their player as Tiote. I'm not saying their player fouled Tiote as the contact was incidental. Their player didn't have possession of the ball, and there was no chance of injury as Tiote feet were down before he got there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5902 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 As a side note to all of this Tiote needs to learn to reign it in. We cant afford to have a player picking up 8 yellows and 1 red card by new year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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