Guest alex Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Pardew probably has about as much affection for this bloke as KK has for Dennis Wise tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrossthepond 699 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Harry Harris's usual made-up garbage. "Newcastle are reported to have..." -- yes, the Sunday People have 'reported' it, but that doesn't make it true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 He's up there with Brian Woolnough in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13817 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Exactly. + Newcastle United are reported to have appointed controversial Iranian businessman Kia Joorabchian as a football advisor at a time of speculation about a potential clear-out at St James' Park. Originally leaked by The People for fucks sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19744 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Pardew probably has about as much affection for this bloke as KK has for Dennis Wise tbh. i was just thinking the same about the striking similarities. another masterstroke by ashley. all he needs now is some ridiculous title to complete the parallels. executive advisor (football) or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13817 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Except it's probably not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Source of that article. http://myespn.go.com/s/conversations/show/story/snet-864018 Do you ever Sober up before writing Harry? you guys realize, that the more you comment on HH articles, the more he writes this crap HHarris is a fine fiction author. Sometimes he writes about things that seem to be going on. Akin to historical fiction, but in the present tense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 3588 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Stuff from the People tends to have an element of truth. That cunt Rob Beasley is one of Ashleys cronies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8950 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Except it's probably not true. Simon Bird says it's true and that Joorabchian has been trying for deals this week. He (Bird) hasn't written his piece about it yet but is going to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentAxeman 82 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Fuck, RIP to the squad morale built up under CH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8950 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Fuck, RIP to the squad morale built up under CH. We don't know that for sure, but yeah it's not the way I'd run a club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sniffer 0 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 We'll get the Xiscos, other teams will get the Tevezs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolly Potter MD 0 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 (edited) Oh dear. Guardian podcast had a spiel about him in mid December. Was great mates with Gary Cooke at City, but they had a big falling out over Kia having too much sway around the club and Cooke not being happy about it. I think Kia(not going to attempt the surname on my phone) got Cooke the job at Man city too. His contacts are supposed to be fantastic throughout football, but defo a shady character. If true thats all that matters. Let Ashley worry about dodgy dealings, we'll just enjoy any players he coughs up. ................... for limited periods. Kia engineers/instigates transfers [of those that are on his books] with the sort of regularity which is alarming to say the least. One just has to look at Tevez' track record to clarify this point - regularly cashing in on his tradeable commodities, as he is an owner of players, is how this bloke makes his living. So much for the notion of maintaining any sense of stability within the squad, by being able to keep key palyers. Also, what's to stop Ashley from selling our players' registration papers to KJ [or part ownership rights at least, for a short-term profit or quick quid], so that KJ [an adept mover & shaker in the transfer market] can further profit later as a player moves from club to club, in the case of a youngster as they progress. Ashley is an unconventional operator, a maverick of sorts, so i would place this type of scenario [or business arrangement] within the realm of possibility. Edited January 12, 2011 by Year Zero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 6 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 like.... WEST HAM no points deduction but effectively £25m fine. and look at them now They got a £5.5m fine at the time http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...utd/6594613.stm Then a few years later agreed to pay Sheffield United 25m. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/foo...icle5904470.ece They also had to pay £2.2million in compensation to Curbishley in-between. Not a well run club! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolly Potter MD 0 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 (edited) He's probably stepping into Jimenez' former role, as the club's advisory wheeler & dealer in the player market, and Jimenez was known to have alot of contacts [in Spain in particular]. The failed system [as it was under KK] is indeed alive & well. Apart from tha fact that it's [KJ's involvement in the club's transfer market affairs, in a now official capacity as 'Football Advisor'] a business related decision, but it in all honesty it also spells that of Ashley handing out the proverbial 'up yours' toward the ruling establishment, a pointed two fingered salute at the FA, at the new chairman/Bernstein [a noted enemy of Ashley] in particular. It's a pretty defiant move on the club's part to be in such close cahoots with a shady operator [KJ], whose previous & close involvement [way of conducting transfer dealings] with West Ham brought about the fall wrath of the FA coming atop of them & subsequent legal action. Admittedly the Tevez-West Ham transfer attracted sanctions under a previous chairman. Such is the stigma attached to this bloke it's a risky & defiant move, with Bernstein now at the helm it's all the more pointed. It's a relationship that's one part business [for the benefit of the club's balance sheets], and one part antagonistic/designed to take the mick out of another party. It's classic Mike Ashley. Edited January 12, 2011 by Year Zero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 3588 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 ................... for limited periods. Kia engineers/instigates transfers [of those that are on his books] with the sort of regularity which is alarming to say the least. One just has to look at Tevez' track record to clarify this point - regularly cashing in on his tradeable commodities, as he is an owner of players, is how this bloke makes his living. So much for the notion of maintaining any sense of stability within the squad, by being able to keep key palyers. Also, what's to stop Ashley from selling our players' registration papers to KJ [or part ownership rights at least, for a short-term profit or quick quid], so that KJ [an adept mover & shaker in the transfer market] can further profit later as a player moves from club to club, in the case of a youngster as they progress. Ashley is an unconventional operator, a maverick of sorts, so i would place this type of scenario [or business arrangement] within the realm of possibility. Thats a very interesting and worrying point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 He's probably stepping into Jimenez' former role, as the club's advisory wheeler & dealer in the player market, and Jimenez was known to have alot of contacts [in Spain in particular]. The failed system [as it was under KK] is indeed alive & well. Apart from tha fact that it's [KJ's involvement in the club's transfer market affairs, in a now official capacity as 'Football Advisor'] a business related decision, but it in all honesty it also spells that of Ashley handing out the proverbial 'up yours' toward the ruling establishment, a pointed two fingered salute at the FA, at the new chairman/Bernstein [a noted enemy of Ashley] in particular. It's a pretty defiant move on the club's part to be in such close cahoots with a shady operator [KJ], whose previous & close involvement [way of conducting transfer dealings] with West Ham brought about the fall wrath of the FA coming atop of them & subsequent legal action. Admittedly the Tevez-West Ham transfer attracted sanctions under a previous chairman. Such is the stigma attached to this bloke it's a risky & defiant move, with Bernstein now at the helm it's all the more pointed. It's a relationship that's one part business [for the benefit of the club's balance sheets], and one part antagonistic/designed to take the mick out of another party. It's classic Mike Ashley. Hmm, only one winner there like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26192 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Thankfully third party ownership is now illegal in the PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinnieq 0 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Tevez to Newcastle eh? I wonder is this in any way linked to the deal that was made when Gonzalez was signed there 2 seasons ago.. i.e. loan Gonzalez and you'll get first rights on a load of South American players... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolly Potter MD 0 Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Thankfully third party ownership is now illegal in the PL. Hasn't KJ claimed that many players & clubs conceal their third party ownership of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8950 Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Pardew states "no truth" in story that Joorabchian will be involved in transfer window dealings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Pardew states "no truth" in story that Joorabchian will be involved in transfer window dealings. Whey that's a bit like hiring Gordon Ramsay and saying he'll have nowt to do with the catering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Pardew states "no truth" in story that Joorabchian will be involved in transfer window dealings. Whey that's a bit like hiring Gordon Ramsay and saying he'll have nowt to do with the catering. Have we actually hired him though? Genuine question as I've not heard it confirmed. I could imagine Pardew being the last to know owt as well like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Pardew states "no truth" in story that Joorabchian will be involved in transfer window dealings. Whey that's a bit like hiring Gordon Ramsay and saying he'll have nowt to do with the catering. Have we actually hired him though? Genuine question as I've not heard it confirmed. I could imagine Pardew being the last to know owt as well like. I've only read what's in this thread in the last 10 minutes, but I thought if we hadn't, Pardew would state there was no truth in the story that Joorabchian was being employed by the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8950 Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Pardew states "no truth" in story that Joorabchian will be involved in transfer window dealings. Whey that's a bit like hiring Gordon Ramsay and saying he'll have nowt to do with the catering. Have we actually hired him though? Genuine question as I've not heard it confirmed. I could imagine Pardew being the last to know owt as well like. I've only read what's in this thread in the last 10 minutes, but I thought if we hadn't, Pardew would state there was no truth in the story that Joorabchian was being employed by the club. Simon bird seemed to think there was weight to the story, but I've heard nowt since Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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