Howmanheyman 26720 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Pipe down Uncle Albert, I said I was disappointed and by inference indicated we should have bought a defender in this window in the post you've quoted so don't paint me as thinking otherwise, I also said to others that if we didn't sign Mariappa we wouldn't sign anyone, so you didn't tell me anything I didn't already know and have known for the past 4 years. and the grey man, true to form, has absolutely nothing to say So to sum this thread up, you have....... LM: ......Arguing with...... Fish; ......Whilst at the same time giving....... Manc Mag; ......some stick as well. Am I still on track with the thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Pipe down Uncle Albert, I said I was disappointed and by inference indicated we should have bought a defender in this window in the post you've quoted so don't paint me as thinking otherwise, I also said to others that if we didn't sign Mariappa we wouldn't sign anyone, so you didn't tell me anything I didn't already know and have known for the past 4 years. pipe down yourself dickbrain, i've been telling you and an assorted bunch of fuckwits something you haven't known for longer than the past 4 years, and if the rubbish you have posted in the last 24 hours is anything to go by, nothing much is going to change. I'm pointing out the limited ambitions of the club, and how they are competing at small club levels, again, in case you haven't got the brains to work it out. Livid Liar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 we have a small squad, we have had injuries that is pushing it and an outside chance of getting into europe, and they didn't think it was worth a gamble ? For the sake of half a million quid, a player the manager [presumably] thought was good enough for Newcastle United has been lost, and maybe the subsequent chance of getting that european place ? This is not the first time Mike Ashley or someone at the club will pass up the chance to push ahead and look to complete the task for the sake of false economy and not understanding or caring about the footballing side of things. Don't say you weren't told, and don't call me a liar when I bring this up in the future, like other things I have said in the past. What happens if it doesnt affect anything and another of your fanciful "I told you so" predictions floats away on a summer breeze? which one has done that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Fish 8973 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 (edited) pipe down yourself dickbrain, i've been telling you and an assorted bunch of fuckwits something you haven't known for longer than the past 4 years, and if the rubbish you have posted in the last 24 hours is anything to go by, nothing much is going to change. I'm pointing out the limited ambitions of the club, and how they are competing at small club levels, again, in case you haven't got the brains to work it out. Livid Liar hypocrite (I could do this all day ) Edited February 2, 2012 by The Fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Livid Liar hypocrite (I could do this all day ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8973 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Liar hypocrite (I could do this all day ) Obsessed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio 0 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Backing him on a £9m striker which I guess was paying what he was worth. They offered £2.5m for a championship cb, that was below Watfords valuation. They could have wanted £5m, who knows. They obviously have players they want in summer and this guy was a stop gap until then. Would have had Bassong on loan tho, missed a trick there I think Aye, I'd have taken Bassong on loan. This is a serious question before any nutsack bites my head off, but how do u reckon the crowd would have taken to that given how he left?? Apparently he refused to play in a friendly to push through a move to Spurs which is why we wouldn't touch him. It was a gamble not getting another centre back and fingers crossed it doesn't come back to bite us on the arse, even if we have to wait until the summer for Douglas we still should have got someone in on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Backing him on a £9m striker which I guess was paying what he was worth. They offered £2.5m for a championship cb, that was below Watfords valuation. They could have wanted £5m, who knows. They obviously have players they want in summer and this guy was a stop gap until then. Would have had Bassong on loan tho, missed a trick there I think Aye, I'd have taken Bassong on loan. This is a serious question before any nutsack bites my head off, but how do u reckon the crowd would have taken to that given how he left?? Apparently he refused to play in a friendly to push through a move to Spurs which is why we wouldn't touch him. It was a gamble not getting another centre back and fingers crossed it doesn't come back to bite us on the arse, even if we have to wait until the summer for Douglas we still should have got someone in on loan. its called "not pushing on and being more than happy with what you have". Get used to it, this won't be the first time they will put the tight financial ship before speculating to accumulate, before the slide starts as a result. Unfortunately, you need to buy the quality players [ie "trophy players"] if you want to make the breakthrough. It will NEVER happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaythesouthernmag 0 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 (edited) I'm hardly going to worry we wouldn't be held to ransom over a championship centre back who would have been a stop gap until the summer. I am excited to see our new centre forward team up with our very impressive current centre forward, especially when our 2 world class centre midfielders are back together. Not bad when you consider Krul,BA,Collo,Tiote and Cabaye could easily get in any side other than City Edited February 2, 2012 by jaythesouthernmag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donaldstott 0 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 It's a gamble, but probably a gamble worth taking. I'd far rather we got a first choice transfer target for £8m, rather than £5m and a stop gap, who there is no guarantee of selling. We should be buying first team players and promising youngsters, not journeymen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I'm hardly going to worry we wouldn't be held to ransom over a championship centre back who would have been a stop gap until the summer. I am excited to see our new centre forward team up with our very impressive current centre forward, especially when our 2 world class centre midfielders are back together. ...international class at any rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 It's a gamble, but probably a gamble worth taking. I'd far rather we got a first choice transfer target for £8m, rather than £5m and a stop gap, who there is no guarantee of selling. We should be buying first team players and promising youngsters, not journeymen. indeed. So why were we interested in this player ? Think about it. I realise it may be difficult, or that you may reject the obvious for not suiting your "opinion". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donaldstott 0 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 It's a gamble, but probably a gamble worth taking. I'd far rather we got a first choice transfer target for £8m, rather than £5m and a stop gap, who there is no guarantee of selling. We should be buying first team players and promising youngsters, not journeymen. indeed. So why were we interested in this player ? Because we a dangerously light on defenders and he was seen as a stopgap until the summer when we have a sniff of getting the player we actually want, who presumably will be a first choice centre half. The problem occurred because Watford's valuation of the stop gap was too high. If the budget is £8m for defensive cover then paying £3m is not leaving a lot for a first choice defender is it? Filling the squad with unsellable, ordinary players is not going to do anyone any good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaythesouthernmag 0 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Most teams don't like doing business in the January transfer window unless it suits them or the offer is too good to turn down, which generally means a club paying over the odds for a player, we all know Ashley won't do that hence why that deal never happend, they also won't sign a player knee jerk style if the target can't be landed. Yes its a gamble but that's Ashley and to be fair recent transfer history proves he's been right to stick with his policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 6 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 It's a gamble, but probably a gamble worth taking. I'd far rather we got a first choice transfer target for £8m, rather than £5m and a stop gap, who there is no guarantee of selling. We should be buying first team players and promising youngsters, not journeymen. indeed. So why were we interested in this player ? Because we a dangerously light on defenders and he was seen as a stopgap until the summer when we have a sniff of getting the player we actually want, who presumably will be a first choice centre half. The problem occurred because Watford's valuation of the stop gap was too high. If the budget is £8m for defensive cover then paying £3m is not leaving a lot for a first choice defender is it? Filling the squad with unsellable, ordinary players is not going to do anyone any good. That was my understanding aswell. Pardew said in an interview it was now or never for the lad, as we'd look elsewhere in the summer. I think if we'd have bought him. We wouldnt have recruited a CB in the summer, so i'm not fussed we missed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 If he was a stopgap, we'd still have been looking elsewhere in the summer, shirley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 It's a gamble, but probably a gamble worth taking. I'd far rather we got a first choice transfer target for £8m, rather than £5m and a stop gap, who there is no guarantee of selling. We should be buying first team players and promising youngsters, not journeymen. indeed. So why were we interested in this player ? Because we a dangerously light on defenders and he was seen as a stopgap until the summer when we have a sniff of getting the player we actually want, who presumably will be a first choice centre half. The problem occurred because Watford's valuation of the stop gap was too high. If the budget is £8m for defensive cover then paying £3m is not leaving a lot for a first choice defender is it? Filling the squad with unsellable, ordinary players is not going to do anyone any good. I know we are light on defenders. Sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donaldstott 0 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Ok but why buy second rate at over market prices just for the sake of it. Is he good enough to take us to the next level? No. Would it help us in the long term? No. Might we be stuck with a squad player who we can't shift cos he never plays? Yes. Its a gamble, but a calculated gamble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio 0 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 its called "not pushing on and being more than happy with what you have". Get used to it, this won't be the first time they will put the tight financial ship before speculating to accumulate, before the slide starts as a result. Unfortunately, you need to buy quality players [ie "trophy players"] if you want to make the breakthrough. It will NEVER happen. The point being the player we want isn't available yet apparently, so we have to wait until the summer until he is. I don't see that as not pushing on, it's similar to the Cisse situation as he's come out and said he was close to joining in the summer but his club blocked it, meaning he had to wait until January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUGATRON1000 0 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 we have a small squad, we have had injuries that is pushing it and an outside chance of getting into europe, and they didn't think it was worth a gamble ? For the sake of half a million quid, a player the manager [presumably] thought was good enough for Newcastle United has been lost, and maybe the subsequent chance of getting that european place ? This is not the first time Mike Ashley or someone at the club will pass up the chance to push ahead and look to complete the task for the sake of false economy and not understanding or caring about the footballing side of things. Don't say you weren't told, and don't call me a liar when I bring this up in the future, like other things I have said in the past. What happens if it doesnt affect anything and another of your fanciful "I told you so" predictions floats away on a summer breeze? which one has done that ? "Collocini Tiote / Cabaye etc will be gone before January is out, Doom, Doom, Doomity, Doom!! Doomity Doom!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flair 0 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 (edited) Demba Cisse was £9million not £7.5million and Santon £5.3million as opposed to £5million. Edited February 2, 2012 by Flair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8973 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Demba Cisse was £9million not £7.5million and Santon £5.3million as opposed to £5million. accuracy is important, but not just in figures. It's worth while realising the difference between statements, hyperbole and just outright bollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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