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I was checking for the scores on Twitter on Sat evening as I was out in the sticks. I loved the WBA v Bin Dippers score, then oddschecker threw some odds out for the Premiership, then I became confused.

 

Newcastle finished above Liverpool last season, correct?

Newcastle start the season with a win over Spurs a team vying for a top 4 finish, correct?

Newcastle have strengthened their squad, correct?

 

Liverpool finished below Newcastle last season, Correct?

Liverpool get beat 3-0 by a relegation candidate, correct?

Liverpool have a weaker squad than the toon, correct?

 

So why are Liverpool 40/1 for the league and Newcastle 125/1 (Odds from oddschecker and will be the shortest odds)?

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They'll actually be the longest odds ;)

 

The likes of ourselves, Liverpool and Spurs may as well be 1000/1 for what it's actually worth.

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They'll actually be the longest odds ;)

 

The likes of ourselves, Liverpool and Spurs may as well be 1000/1 for what it's actually worth.

 

Ah they put the better value odds on, righto, makes sense.

 

Aye we may well as be, but it still confuses me why they rate them a better chance of winning than us

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Ah they put the better value odds on, righto, makes sense.

 

Aye we may well as be, but it still confuses me why they rate them a better chance of winning than us

 

Bookies don't price outsiders on their chances of winning. They price them on the money being laid. They're exposed to a big loss if Liverpool do win because a lot of deluded scousers still think (like EVERY season) "this is the season we come back" and put money on it happening.

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Bookies don't price outsiders on their chances of winning. They price them on the money being laid. They're exposed to a big loss if Liverpool do win because a lot of deluded scousers still think (like EVERY season) "this is the season we come back" and put money on it happening.

 

They'll make a lot more money if Liverpool do win it than they would if it were Man U or Man City.

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Bookies don't price outsiders on their chances of winning. They price them on the money being laid. They're exposed to a big loss if Liverpool do win because a lot of deluded scousers still think (like EVERY season) "this is the season we come back" and put money on it happening.

 

:lol:

 

So basically after the bumming they got from WBA some daft cath words are still laying big money on them?

 

:lol:

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Aye. There's not going to be much spent on Newcastle or Liverpool either way, but the bookies will only offer a price their customers see as good value, encouraging them to have a daft, hopeful punt.

 

For a scouser that price is much lower because deep down they still feel entitled to win it, never a trait of a Newcastle fan.

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When John Solako comes on SSN with match updates I keep confusing him with Gary Charles .

Anyone know what became of him after his incident at all ? Canny tragic really .

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1452792/Ex-England-soccer-star-who-turned-to-alcohol-jailed.html

 

"Charles admitted dangerous driving, failing to provide a specimen... "

 

I beg to differ...

 

"He was sitting among torn-up money and pieces of the car's shattered steering column, and had smeared his own excrement on the interior."

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Just read this in an article about Ryan Taylor's injury:

 

Taylor's team-mates ran out for the Barclays Premier League clash with Aston Villa wearing tracksuits emblazoned with the message 'Ryan Taylor over the wall', a reference to the song the Toon Army sing about his derby-winning free-kick at Sunderland last season.

Pardew said: 'It was Colo's [skipper Fabricio Coloccini] idea, he called me yesterday. We didn't want to say "Get well" because there are people in a lot worse positions than Ryan as a professional footballer.

'It's just nice to have that sort of spirit within the group, and it was just something to say: "We support you Ryan, good luck and come back quickly".'

 

Great stuff from Colo as captain, he really seems to be loving the job and could be one of the best and most deserving captains we've ever chosen.

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Not looking good for Rodgers:

 

Linky

 

Liverpool's principal owner, John W Henry, has taken the unusual step of defending the club's calamitous end to the transfer window in an open letter to supporters that appears to condemn Brendan Rodgers' pursuit of Clint Dempsey.

 

Henry and Liverpool's chairman, Tom Werner, have faced the most hostile criticism of Fenway Sports Group's near-two year reign since Friday, when they failed to acquire a striker despite the manager's decision to loan Andy Carroll to West Ham United the night before. Rodgers had hoped to replace the striker with Dempsey but FSG would not offer more than £4m for the 29-year-old, who ultimately joined Tottenham Hotspur for £6m.

 

Fulham claim Liverpool offered only £3m for the United States international while a deal for Chelsea's Daniel Sturridge also collapsed due to the striker's insistence on a permanent transfer. The Liverpool manager, who has claimed finances were a factor in Carroll's departure, wanted a loan move before committing to a permanent deal for the Chelsea striker.

 

"Spending is not merely about buying talent," Henry writes. "Our ambitions do not lie in cementing a mid-table place with expensive, short-term quick fixes that will only contribute for a couple of years."

 

That comment reflects the rift that has developed between Liverpool's owner and their manager in recent days, although Henry describes Rodgers as a "talented young manager and we have valued highly his judgement about the make-up of the squad." The former Swansea City manager was granted control of all football matters upon his arrival at Anfield in June, having resisted FSG's attempts to install a sporting director such as Louis van Gaal before accepting the job, and has now found his judgement undermined on Dempsey. He has been left with just two first-team strikers, Luis Suárez and Fabio Borini, until the transfer window reopens in January.

 

Having spent almost £30m on new players this summer, albeit with almost £10m recouped in sales and loan fees and with the wage bill slashed under Rodgers, Henry defends FSG's work in the transfer window overall.

 

He says: "I am as disappointed as anyone connected with Liverpool Football Club that we were unable to add further to our strike force in this summer transfer window, but that was not through any lack of desire or effort on the part of all of those involved. They pushed hard in the final days of the transfer window on a number of forward targets and it is unfortunate that on this occasion we were unable to conclude acceptable deals to bring those targets in.

"But a summer window which brought in three young, but significantly talented starters in Joe Allen, Nuri Sahin and Fabio Borini as well as two exciting young potential stars of the future – Samed Yesil and Oussama Assaidi – could hardly be deemed a failure as we build for the future.

"Nor should anyone minimise the importance of keeping our best players during this window. We successfully retained Daniel Agger, Martin Skrtel and Luis Suárez. We greatly appreciate their faith and belief in the club. And we successfully negotiated new, long-term contracts with Luis and with Martin."

Henry reiterates claims that FSG are still dealing with the fall-out from the disastrous Liverpool ownership of Tom Hicks and George Gillett. Joe Cole, handed a £100,000-a-week contract by the former Liverpool managing director Christian Purslow, remains on the club's books. But he accepts that FSG have themselves erred in the transfer market. The Liverpool owners sanctioned a £120m outlay on new players under the former manager Kenny Dalglish and the former director of football Damien Comolli only to sack Dalglish after one full season in charge.

 

"We are still in the process of reversing the errors of previous regimes," he adds. "It will not happen overnight. It has been compounded by our own mistakes in a difficult first two years of ownership. It has been a harsh education, but make no mistake, the club is healthier today than when we took over."

The principal owner adds: "We will never place this club in the precarious position that we found it in when we took over at Anfield. This club should never again run up debts that threaten its existence. Most of all, we want to win. That ambition drives every decision. It is the Liverpool way. We can and will generate the revenues to achieve that aim. There will be short-term setbacks from time to time, but we believe we have the right people in place to bring more glory to Anfield."

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They bid 3mill for Dempsey....was that anything top do with the 120mill Dalglish pissed against the wall? :lol:

 

 

For the owners that employ Mr Moneyball Billy Beane at Boston Redsox theyve either been badly advised (Commoli) or lost leave of their finacial senses. Probably one as a result of the other.

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:lol: If Rodgers is a long term plan then they best get ready for a very poor season and no qualification for Europe next season.

 

I heard on 5Live yesterday that there is a clause in the loan contract of Carroll to bring him back in January.

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There was one on 606 last night bemoaning their window and when referring to the recent big spending it was 'the Comolli era'

 

There was actually a pause before he said Comolli (rather than Dalglish) . Sacrilege and all that maaate :)

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