Gemmill 34196 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Don't you have Sky? He earns twice from them what he does from tickets so you're more of an enabler than i am "No my san, he doesn't have Sky. I get fack all off this pilchard." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I don't get any emotion out of this club anymore, I'm not even happy if we win and I'm not angry when we get beat. Just a feeling of nothingness and sometimes frustration that something that used to mean alot just doesn't anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3183 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 We're going to have a gash side next year with zero creativity. I'll still enjoy my rare days out at the match too. Support the club, not the dickhead that runs it. You can't seperate support both or neither Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19750 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 You can't seperate support both or neither Nah, you can want the team to win and enjoy a day out at the match while still thinking Ashley's a cunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I don't get any emotion out of this club anymore, I'm not even happy if we win and I'm not angry when we get beat. Just a feeling of nothingness and sometimes frustration that something that used to mean alot just doesn't anymore. Sums it up for me also. Just total apathy with something that used to mean so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 (edited) Nah, you can want the team to win and enjoy a day out at the match while still thinking Ashley's a cunt. You can Doctor, but this is a symptom of a vicious circle, as the team winning only empowers him. The prognosis being that he stays and goes nowhere! Edited March 31, 2014 by ClubSpinDoctor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 "No my san, he doesn't have Sky. I get fack all off this pilchard." Not sure I like where that sort-of arrow is pointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 You can Doctor, but this is a symptom of a vicious circle, as the team winning only empowers him. The prognosis being that he stays and goes nowhere! So you'd rather we lost if it helped get him out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 (edited) You have to fucking laugh at the crap being written between this thread and the Pardew thread. It's the FUCKING PLAYERS who are the ones letting us down on the pitch, not Ashley or Pardew. We were fucking flying until December and sure Cabaye got the move he DEMANDED, but that does not excuse the abysmal performance put in by the other 20 odd highly paid professionals. Is Carver a cunt too? Some so called very good players not giving a fuck at NUFC. Edited March 31, 2014 by Christmas Tree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 So you'd rather we lost if it helped get him out? Definitely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 You have to fucking laugh at the crap being written between this thread and the Pardew thread. It's the FUCKING PLAYERS who are the ones letting us down on the pitch, not Ashley or Pardew. We were fucking flying until December and sure Cabaye got the move he DEMANDED, but that does not excuse the abysmal performance put in by the other 20 odd highly paid professionals. Is Carver a cunt too? Some so called very good players not giving a fuck at NUFC. Wasn't part of our super scouting set-up signing players with the right character/attitude? Who signs the players? Not a single leader on the pitch. One or two good professionals, but we don't have an authoritarian figure and it's costing us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Suarez demanded a move last summer btw CT, ambitious clubs deal with matters differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Wasn't part of our super scouting set-up signing players with the right character/attitude? Who signs the players? Not a single leader on the pitch. One or two good professionals, but we don't have an authoritarian figure and it's costing us. I think it's a very fair point to question Carrs credentials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Suarez demanded a move last summer btw CT, ambitious clubs deal with matters differently. Did he go on strike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Did he go on strike? Cabaye didn't in January. Would he have gone on strike before the world cup if we'd said no? Nope. We could have kept him till summer had we had any ambition to finish the promising start to the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 (edited) I think it's a very fair point to question Carrs credentials. Carr is working within set criteria where players have to be young and be good value that will go on to rise. Leader's are generally experienced players who're battle-hardened and know their onions. Not having any of those is what's costing us. Young players that already have that quality alongside a winning mentality are the ones that go for the sort of money that Ashley won't pay Edited March 31, 2014 by ClubSpinDoctor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12450 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I don't get any emotion out of this club anymore, I'm not even happy if we win and I'm not angry when we get beat. Just a feeling of nothingness and sometimes frustration that something that used to mean alot just doesn't anymore. Aye have to say I'm a lot less bothered by results, I think the frequency of the 3-0 and 4-0 drubbings we've had this season has really helped that. There was a time where a 4-0 drubbing was completely embarrassing, but in recent weeks it's come to be expected and almost feels the same as a 2-0 loss which is ridiculous. Everton walked through us as if we weren't even there, Southampton done likewise, I'm at the point where they can all do one tbh. Pardew for his shite tactics and decisions, Ashley for his large part and the players for being embarrassing on the field, I understand the point about how the knackers in charge have made the players apathetic but I still expect them to show some effort and have some pride. The recent performances should make the players ashamed of themselves. I'm pretty apathetic to Ben Arfa leaving tbh, we barely ever see him play anyway and as much as I love watching the lad I'm frustrated with him for clearly letting himself go. I can also get his apathy towards his place due to poor management but he's still an adult and has been unprofessional himself. Like I said though, it barely matters as Pardew has no clue how to use him anyway and would far rather have someone like Danny Guthrie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Carr is working within set criteria where players have to be young and be good value that will go on to rise. Leader's are generally experienced players who're battle-hardened and know their onions. Not having any of those is what's costing us. Young players that already have that quality alongside a winning mentality are the ones that go for the sort of money that Ashley won't pay Hold on though, the likes of Colochini and Tiote should be capable of leading on the pitch. It's the likes of Santon, Mbwia, De Jong and co that leave his judgement in question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Aye have to say I'm a lot less bothered by results, I think the frequency of the 3-0 and 4-0 drubbings we've had this season has really helped that. There was a time where a 4-0 drubbing was completely embarrassing, but in recent weeks it's come to be expected and almost feels the same as a 2-0 loss which is ridiculous. Everton walked through us as if we weren't even there, Southampton done likewise, I'm at the point where they can all do one tbh. Pardew for his shite tactics and decisions, Ashley for his large part and the players for being embarrassing on the field, I understand the point about how the knackers in charge have made the players apathetic but I still expect them to show some effort and have some pride. The recent performances should make the players ashamed of themselves. I'm pretty apathetic to Ben Arfa leaving tbh, we barely ever see him play anyway and as much as I love watching the lad I'm frustrated with him for clearly letting himself go. I can also get his apathy towards his place due to poor management but he's still an adult and has been unprofessional himself. Like I said though, it barely matters as Pardew has no clue how to use him anyway and would far rather have someone like Danny Guthrie. Ben Arfa needs no excuses. He's praised Pardews handling of him, is surrounded by French internationals WANTING the World Cup this summer. You couldn't have put it better, HE has let himself go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8954 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Yeah, this is all the players fault... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Yeah, this is all the players fault... Is getting stuffed 4-0 off Southampton really Pardews fault or Carvers? Of course not. First and foremost it's the 11 on the pitch who surrendered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Hold on though, the likes of Colochini and Tiote should be capable of leading on the pitch. It's the likes of Santon, Mbwia, De Jong and co that leave his judgement in question. Should be capable? Coloccini was only ever a 'lead by example' captain, being a good professional (does he even speak english?). You're over-rating tiote, he's a spoiler (and good at it) but ability wise limited and in no way have I ever seen him marshal the team from midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13819 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I was panic drinking watching this match so I can't really remember any of it. I'm sure Benny was MOTM or Lambert or someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 You were blaming Pardew last year. You can't help but go against what the most popular opinion is on this board just to create an argument and a bite. You're a Wum and a probably Mackem. Go post on RTG man. You're nowt more than a Mackem troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Is getting stuffed 4-0 off Southampton really Pardews fault or Carvers? Of course not. First and foremost it's the 11 on the pitch who surrendered. You can't be serious man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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