peasepud 59 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Anyone certainly COULD do better than Freddie. There is no doubt about that. Freddie was abysmal, and wasted loads of money on, among others, Michael Owen. Thank goodness Freddie no longer has anything to do with Newcastle United. I still find it joyous to utter those words. Oh for the day I can utter the words "Nick no longer posts on toontastic" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordieshandy 0 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Anyone certainly COULD do better than Freddie. There is no doubt about that. Freddie was abysmal, and wasted loads of money on, among others, Michael Owen. Thank goodness Freddie no longer has anything to do with Newcastle United. I still find it joyous to utter those words. Brilliant hindsight, but how could bringing England's number one striker in at the time be construed as anything other than being ambitious and taking advantage of the club's stature in the market. Then again you seem to think Ashley is the best owner in the league... At least the previous owners tried to fix problems with the squad and the staff as they saw it, the current ones appear to be trying to create problems at every turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 31 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Anyone certainly COULD do better than Freddie. There is no doubt about that. Freddie was abysmal, and wasted loads of money on, among others, Michael Owen. Thank goodness Freddie no longer has anything to do with Newcastle United. I still find it joyous to utter those words. Fucking hell. If supporting Fat Fred to nth degree and seeing no wrong he done is LM, you my lad are the fucking polar opposite. You fuckers never heard of grey? As in the stuff in the middle? Freddy for any short comings was not abysmal like. MO was a fuck up, but was Shearer? Ferdinand, Beardo? Lee? Robert? Bellamy? Given? and on and on and on. He was a twat who loved his face on Sky sports and in hindsight, Id say didnt manage the clubs finances that well. Im not sure where it went wrong, but it did. I always blame the season Partizan stopped us getting back into the CL, I think then it started going tits up. but come on, We were in with the shout of the league under two of his managers, couldnt have been all bad surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordieshandy 0 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 I'd say that most of the previous regimes faults arose from taking knee jerk decisions regarding the management of the squad. They always managed to replace previous managers with polar opposites of what had went before. This led to disruption and cash being wasted on contracts for players that were not fancied by the new managers. Which also meant they needed to spend more money on players that the new manager wanted. Shepherd and the young Hall were also a bit too media whore for my liking but they are certainly not the worst culprits in this regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38559 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Anyone certainly COULD do better than Freddie. There is no doubt about that. Freddie was abysmal, and wasted loads of money on, among others, Michael Owen. Thank goodness Freddie no longer has anything to do with Newcastle United. I still find it joyous to utter those words. Oh for the day I can utter the words "Nick no longer posts on toontastic" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 My head hurts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2188 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Do we have to go over this again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenL 0 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Who's this Freddie you all keep going on about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2188 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 (edited) Who's this Freddie you all keep going on about? Freddie Starr Edited July 27, 2011 by Kitman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie Burtons Grandad 0 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Another pointless thread from the Insane Polish oxygen thief. Fucking arsehole, if your Doctor is reading this I think he should up the voltage on your electro shock therapy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Another pointless thread from the Insane Polish oxygen thief. Fucking arsehole, if your Doctor is reading this I think he should up the voltage on your electro shock therapy. you should post more often Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleeToonFan 1 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Mike Ashley, seeing as he's actually the owner. I'd do a better job than him... but i'm not the owner so it's pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irrelevant Nick KP 0 Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 Anyone certainly COULD do better than Freddie. There is no doubt about that. Freddie was abysmal, and wasted loads of money on, among others, Michael Owen. Thank goodness Freddie no longer has anything to do with Newcastle United. I still find it joyous to utter those words. Fucking hell. If supporting Fat Fred to nth degree and seeing no wrong he done is LM, you my lad are the fucking polar opposite. You fuckers never heard of grey? As in the stuff in the middle? Freddy for any short comings was not abysmal like. MO was a fuck up, but was Shearer? Ferdinand, Beardo? Lee? Robert? Bellamy? Given? and on and on and on. He was a twat who loved his face on Sky sports and in hindsight, Id say didnt manage the clubs finances that well. Im not sure where it went wrong, but it did. I always blame the season Partizan stopped us getting back into the CL, I think then it started going tits up. but come on, We were in with the shout of the league under two of his managers, couldnt have been all bad surely? In my opinion, the contract that Shearer was given in 2004, which gave him about 100,000 a week, was another colossal waste of money, on behalf of Freddie. Bellamy was sacked by Freddie, simply for falling out with Shearer. (another stupid Freddie decision). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 31 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Anyone certainly COULD do better than Freddie. There is no doubt about that. Freddie was abysmal, and wasted loads of money on, among others, Michael Owen. Thank goodness Freddie no longer has anything to do with Newcastle United. I still find it joyous to utter those words. Fucking hell. If supporting Fat Fred to nth degree and seeing no wrong he done is LM, you my lad are the fucking polar opposite. You fuckers never heard of grey? As in the stuff in the middle? Freddy for any short comings was not abysmal like. MO was a fuck up, but was Shearer? Ferdinand, Beardo? Lee? Robert? Bellamy? Given? and on and on and on. He was a twat who loved his face on Sky sports and in hindsight, Id say didnt manage the clubs finances that well. Im not sure where it went wrong, but it did. I always blame the season Partizan stopped us getting back into the CL, I think then it started going tits up. but come on, We were in with the shout of the league under two of his managers, couldnt have been all bad surely? In my opinion, the contract that Shearer was given in 2004, which gave him about 100,000 a week, was another colossal waste of money, on behalf of Freddie. Bellamy was sacked by Freddie, simply for falling out with Shearer. (another stupid Freddie decision). Ok, its starting to makes sense. So, you wouldnt have signed Shearer. Maybe Paul Kitson and Paul Dogleash was the better idea all along right? And those FA Cup Finals, games in Milan and at home to Barca, they were meaningless because we never won anything really right? Scratch that, you're not making sense. Nutter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2188 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Anyone certainly COULD do better than Freddie. There is no doubt about that. Freddie was abysmal, and wasted loads of money on, among others, Michael Owen. Thank goodness Freddie no longer has anything to do with Newcastle United. I still find it joyous to utter those words. Fucking hell. If supporting Fat Fred to nth degree and seeing no wrong he done is LM, you my lad are the fucking polar opposite. You fuckers never heard of grey? As in the stuff in the middle? Freddy for any short comings was not abysmal like. MO was a fuck up, but was Shearer? Ferdinand, Beardo? Lee? Robert? Bellamy? Given? and on and on and on. He was a twat who loved his face on Sky sports and in hindsight, Id say didnt manage the clubs finances that well. Im not sure where it went wrong, but it did. I always blame the season Partizan stopped us getting back into the CL, I think then it started going tits up. but come on, We were in with the shout of the league under two of his managers, couldnt have been all bad surely? In my opinion, the contract that Shearer was given in 2004, which gave him about 100,000 a week, was another colossal waste of money, on behalf of Freddie. Bellamy was sacked by Freddie, simply for falling out with Shearer. (another stupid Freddie decision). Apparently hydrangeas come in two colours, pink and blue.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irrelevant Nick KP 0 Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 Shearer was world-class in his first season with us. But after that, he never justified the vast amount of money we spent on his fee and wages (in my opinion). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38559 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 All about the money with Fat Nick -he's clearly had his mind twisted into a seething mass of resentment that he earns 2zl per hour skinning hamsters for luxury merkins. (imo) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 (edited) Shearer was world-class in his first season with us.But after that, he never justified the vast amount of money we spent on his fee and wages (in my opinion). He was never the same player, post-Goodison injury (I fail to see how the board could've predicted or avoided that though) but I don't see anyone breaking his all-time scoring record any time soon. He was a bit of a sad figure in his last season (or two at a push) though. He was a brilliant player for us whichever way you look at it though, and I'm not his no. 1 fan either. Edited July 28, 2011 by alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieRoss 0 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 (edited) Anyone certainly COULD do better than Freddie. There is no doubt about that. Freddie was abysmal, and wasted loads of money on, among others, Michael Owen. Thank goodness Freddie no longer has anything to do with Newcastle United. I still find it joyous to utter those words. Fucking hell. If supporting Fat Fred to nth degree and seeing no wrong he done is LM, you my lad are the fucking polar opposite. You fuckers never heard of grey? As in the stuff in the middle? Freddy for any short comings was not abysmal like. MO was a fuck up, but was Shearer? Ferdinand, Beardo? Lee? Robert? Bellamy? Given? and on and on and on. He was a twat who loved his face on Sky sports and in hindsight, Id say didnt manage the clubs finances that well. Im not sure where it went wrong, but it did. I always blame the season Partizan stopped us getting back into the CL, I think then it started going tits up. but come on, We were in with the shout of the league under two of his managers, couldnt have been all bad surely? In my opinion, the contract that Shearer was given in 2004, which gave him about 100,000 a week, was another colossal waste of money, on behalf of Freddie. Bellamy was sacked by Freddie, simply for falling out with Shearer. (another stupid Freddie decision). Ok, its starting to makes sense. So, you wouldnt have signed Shearer. Maybe Paul Kitson and Paul Dogleash was the better idea all along right? And those FA Cup Finals, games in Milan and at home to Barca, they were meaningless because we never won anything really right? Scratch that, you're not making sense. Nutter Yes, they were in the scheme of things. In the words of the great philosopher Billy Bremner, "you get nowt for being second"... Edited July 28, 2011 by StevieRoss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 It's absurd to suggest football matches that gave you great pleasure (not the cup finals but getting there) and the games in Milan, Rotterdam etc., etc. were meaningless because we never won anything. Surely 'in the scheme of things' they take on even greater significance because we never seem to win anything anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieRoss 0 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 It's absurd to suggest football matches that gave you great pleasure (not the cup finals but getting there) and the games in Milan, Rotterdam etc., etc. were meaningless because we never won anything. Surely 'in the scheme of things' they take on even greater significance because we never seem to win anything anyway. Ultimately, teams are judged by what they win surely? And don't we all want to support a successful team? Being "entertaining" losers lost its novelty for me a long time ago. Yeah, sure we can have nice memories of great individual matches, but it's looking like I'll go to my grave having never seen Newcastle United actually "win" anything, and I can't say I'm satisfied with that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 It's absurd to suggest football matches that gave you great pleasure (not the cup finals but getting there) and the games in Milan, Rotterdam etc., etc. were meaningless because we never won anything. Surely 'in the scheme of things' they take on even greater significance because we never seem to win anything anyway. Ultimately, teams are judged by what they win surely? And don't we all want to support a successful team? Being "entertaining" losers lost its novelty for me a long time ago. Yeah, sure we can have nice memories of great individual matches, but it's looking like I'll go to my grave having never seen Newcastle United actually "win" anything, and I can't say I'm satisfied with that... I absolutely want us to win things but I disagree with the insinuation that there's little else to football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieRoss 0 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 It's absurd to suggest football matches that gave you great pleasure (not the cup finals but getting there) and the games in Milan, Rotterdam etc., etc. were meaningless because we never won anything. Surely 'in the scheme of things' they take on even greater significance because we never seem to win anything anyway. Ultimately, teams are judged by what they win surely? And don't we all want to support a successful team? Being "entertaining" losers lost its novelty for me a long time ago. Yeah, sure we can have nice memories of great individual matches, but it's looking like I'll go to my grave having never seen Newcastle United actually "win" anything, and I can't say I'm satisfied with that... I absolutely want us to win things but I disagree with the insinuation that there's little else to football. I don't think I implied that there's "little else". My point is that without being the supporter of a winning team - even once - the experience of being a supporter has a hollowness about it that you can't deny. You can't tell me that all these people on this forum don't feel an ache that will never really be quelled until this team of ours actually wins someting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 It's absurd to suggest football matches that gave you great pleasure (not the cup finals but getting there) and the games in Milan, Rotterdam etc., etc. were meaningless because we never won anything. Surely 'in the scheme of things' they take on even greater significance because we never seem to win anything anyway. Ultimately, teams are judged by what they win surely? And don't we all want to support a successful team? Being "entertaining" losers lost its novelty for me a long time ago. Yeah, sure we can have nice memories of great individual matches, but it's looking like I'll go to my grave having never seen Newcastle United actually "win" anything, and I can't say I'm satisfied with that... I absolutely want us to win things but I disagree with the insinuation that there's little else to football. I don't think I implied that there's "little else". My point is that without being the supporter of a winning team - even once - the experience of being a supporter has a hollowness about it that you can't deny. You can't tell me that all these people on this forum don't feel an ache that will never really be quelled until this team of ours actually wins someting? I agree, Stevie. I don't want to put words in your mouth but I just took it to mean that those times meant very little to you when you said 'meaningless'. It's a shame and, imo. very unlucky on our part that we didn't win anything with Robson or Keegan at the helm but I thoroughly enjoyed those times and would swap them for now in a heartbeat. Winning something would be great but very few sides actually do manage it and I'm not sure something like a League Cup win in the current climate would come close to the periods I mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irrelevant Nick KP 0 Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 It's absurd to suggest football matches that gave you great pleasure (not the cup finals but getting there) and the games in Milan, Rotterdam etc., etc. were meaningless because we never won anything. I've never suggested that. Read properly what people write. My point is that no matter what the club achieves is not impressive if it's based on getting the club into debt. Plus, Bellamy, one of the most important players in Bobby's team was sold against his will, simply to please Shearer. Freddie was a disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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