LeazesMag 0 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 (edited) No I dont, being in the champions league was great but as i`ve said things have moved on and had done long before the evil Mike Ashley came on the scene with his plan to destroy Newcastle. Yes we did have some top,top footballers but we also had some right fucking donkeys on top whack money too and the club was being run on debts and that sort of spending was ans is unsustainable. I could go out and buy a brand new Ferrari on finance and no doubt get some cracking fanny too but when reality bites and the the money dries up I`m back to the the golf and the models have moved on Get real you fucking dope unfortunately, the majority of people dopes [now] on here are posting exactly the same as me, which I;ve been saying almost since Ashley got his feet under his desk. When exactly will soopa Mike do better than, or even match, the Halls and Shepherd, or would you prefer us to be run for the next 15 years like Bob Murray ran the mackems instead of how they did it ? Which is what it appears you want. Edited May 27, 2011 by LeazesMag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwertyo 0 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 unfortunately, the majority of people dopes [now] on here are posting exactly the same as me, which I;ve been saying almost since Ashley got his feet under his desk. When exactly will soopa Mike do better than, or even match, the Halls and Shepherd, or would you prefer us to be run for the next 15 years like Bob Murray ran the mackems instead of how they did it ? Which is what it appears you want. If you think the majority of people on here don't think you are a complete idiot then your maths skills are up there with your understanding of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 6766 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 I don't think that wages are an issue with Barton, it's the length of the contract. It's always about the money. its about ambition, you're daft if you can't see that. The money only proves the ambition. and the money comes from...............................??????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 I don't think that wages are an issue with Barton, it's the length of the contract. It's always about the money. its about ambition, you're daft if you can't see that. The money only proves the ambition. and the money comes from...............................??????? so you are happy for us to compete at the levels of Blackburn and Bolton ? Maybe the Halls and Shepherd can give soopa Mike some tips on how to raise revenues, rather than selling your best players to do it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 unfortunately, the majority of people dopes [now] on here are posting exactly the same as me, which I;ve been saying almost since Ashley got his feet under his desk. When exactly will soopa Mike do better than, or even match, the Halls and Shepherd, or would you prefer us to be run for the next 15 years like Bob Murray ran the mackems instead of how they did it ? Which is what it appears you want. If you think the majority of people on here don't think you are a complete idiot then your maths skills are up there with your understanding of football. unfortunately, I - and others who now agree with me - will be proved right in the long run, the only question is how long will it take before the penny drops with fuckwits like you. Go back to 1986. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwertyo 0 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 unfortunately, the majority of people dopes [now] on here are posting exactly the same as me, which I;ve been saying almost since Ashley got his feet under his desk. When exactly will soopa Mike do better than, or even match, the Halls and Shepherd, or would you prefer us to be run for the next 15 years like Bob Murray ran the mackems instead of how they did it ? Which is what it appears you want. If you think the majority of people on here don't think you are a complete idiot then your maths skills are up there with your understanding of football. unfortunately, I - and others who now agree with me - will be proved right in the long run, the only question is how long will it take before the penny drops with fuckwits like you. Go back to 1986. Okay name names. Who is it that has had their mind changed by the force of your facts and intellect. I won't hold my breath waiting for an answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WisconsinMagpie 0 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Re the conspiracy theory I think there's nothing sinister in this on either side. Agreement can't reached unfortunately. One side will blame nasty Ashley. The other will blame greedy Joey. Each side is just looking after their own interest. Hopefully we get another good year. I'm quite pleased the club have come out with this as it just seems to tell it as it is and takes the unpleasantness out of the situation that seems to be building with McKay and then Joey on Twitter. Having got his life turned around, the last thing I think he needs is to be getting into spats on twitter. Delighted as well that the club seem to have lots of Irons in the fire on the transfer front. I wonder if we'll snap Larsson up today having now being officially released by Birmingham. Totally agree. It's just business and a lot of typical agent posturing, a PR battle. My blog co-author posted similar today - http://bit.ly/iYWlbR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 unfortunately, the majority of people dopes [now] on here are posting exactly the same as me, which I;ve been saying almost since Ashley got his feet under his desk. When exactly will soopa Mike do better than, or even match, the Halls and Shepherd, or would you prefer us to be run for the next 15 years like Bob Murray ran the mackems instead of how they did it ? Which is what it appears you want. If you think the majority of people on here don't think you are a complete idiot then your maths skills are up there with your understanding of football. unfortunately, I - and others who now agree with me - will be proved right in the long run, the only question is how long will it take before the penny drops with fuckwits like you. Go back to 1986. Okay name names. Who is it that has had their mind changed by the force of your facts and intellect. I won't hold my breath waiting for an answer. did you tell us back in 2005-2007 that Man City would be bought by Arabs ? Why did you want Fred out ? Why was he booed ? Why does any of this mean NUFC have to sell their best players and compete at the levels of Blackburn and Bolton ? Use what facts you can find and any intellect you can muster. I won't hold my breath waiting for an answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 6766 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 I don't think that wages are an issue with Barton, it's the length of the contract. It's always about the money. its about ambition, you're daft if you can't see that. The money only proves the ambition. and the money comes from...............................??????? so you are happy for us to compete at the levels of Blackburn and Bolton ? Maybe the Halls and Shepherd can give soopa Mike some tips on how to raise revenues, rather than selling your best players to do it ? Been done to death and irrelevant. We are competing at the level we can afford, due to current and past bad management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwertyo 0 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 unfortunately, the majority of people dopes [now] on here are posting exactly the same as me, which I;ve been saying almost since Ashley got his feet under his desk. When exactly will soopa Mike do better than, or even match, the Halls and Shepherd, or would you prefer us to be run for the next 15 years like Bob Murray ran the mackems instead of how they did it ? Which is what it appears you want. If you think the majority of people on here don't think you are a complete idiot then your maths skills are up there with your understanding of football. unfortunately, I - and others who now agree with me - will be proved right in the long run, the only question is how long will it take before the penny drops with fuckwits like you. Go back to 1986. Okay name names. Who is it that has had their mind changed by the force of your facts and intellect. I won't hold my breath waiting for an answer. did you tell us back in 2005-2007 that Man City would be bought by Arabs ? Why did you want Fred out ? Why was he booed ? Why does any of this mean NUFC have to sell their best players and compete at the levels of Blackburn and Bolton ? Use what facts you can find and any intellect you can muster. I won't hold my breath waiting for an answer. Same old same old. Simple question gets no answer and a wacky reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 /CT/ Jose and Barton must be asking for very high wages if the £35 million doesn't cover it, I can't blame Ashley for this. /CT/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 6766 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 (edited) As a matter of interest, what do people think Joey's worth a week ??? Given that as per the Daily Telegraph in May last year: Man Utd's average player wage was £55,818 per week Arsenal's was £50,289 per week Scouse murderers was £48,662 per week So Joey's existing reported £60K/week is above average for those three. On the subject of wages etc. This is an interesting read, if a wee bit mumbo jumbo (Chez might like it) http://onfooty.com/2011/05/financial-break...ier-league.html Edited May 27, 2011 by Toonpack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 /CT/ Jose and Barton must be asking for very high wages if the £35 million doesn't cover it, I can't blame Ashley for this. /CT/ Jose wants to play champions league football Ashley doesnt think Barton is worth a four year contract that will see him up to just short of 33 Nothing sinister in either of those statements, its just football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Besty 4 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Either that... or both parties see the board for what they are as most other people do and see the club, as it stands, has no ambition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 31 Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 As a matter of interest, what do people think Joey's worth a week ??? Given that as per the Daily Telegraph in May last year: Man Utd's average player wage was £55,818 per week Arsenal's was £50,289 per week Scouse murderers was £48,662 per week So Joey's existing reported £60K/week is above average for those three. On the subject of wages etc. This is an interesting read, if a wee bit mumbo jumbo (Chez might like it) http://onfooty.com/2011/05/financial-break...ier-league.html If you are playing CL football I reckon its easier to get a player on a lesser wage. Plus you are comparing one player against an average. I bet those teams have a load of players above their average and a lot of much lower earners pulling the average down (obvious I know ). As for his worth, I have no idea, but £50K p/w is a figure I've had in my head (based on current figures) but I have no idea on the actual wages paid, only hearsay. My issue on Barton is simply that it will cost more to replace him than give him the extra year he wants. Wage isnt the issue just length of contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26173 Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 My issue on Barton is simply that it will cost more to replace him than give him the extra year he wants Nail on the head right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 6766 Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 (edited) From Lille's version/equivalent of the Journal evidently: Yoyan Cabaye bound for Newcastle Under contract until June 2013, Yohan Cabaye has, it seems, reached an agreement with the leaders of Newcastle to finalize details of his future yesterday. The transfer should be completed in the next 10 days. According to our information, Yohan Cabaye is on the verge of joining the club from Newcastle. Yesterday, the player along with his agent met up the bosses from Newcastle, to finalise all the details of his contract. Oh 5Mill Euro release clause supposedly. Edited May 28, 2011 by Toonpack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 Just had a thought: If McKay is confident that he can get Barton as good a contract at any time elsewhere, then what difference does the length of contract make? They must think it will be difficult for them to get a decent wage offer in 3 years time, presumably because players of that age arent worth £40k a week. So, why should we hand him a contract paying him that money which the negotiation clearly reveals McKay is not confident of securing elsewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 If you think the majority of people on here don't think you are a complete idiot then your maths skills are up there with your understanding of football. unfortunately, I - and others who now agree with me - will be proved right in the long run, the only question is how long will it take before the penny drops with fuckwits like you. Go back to 1986. Okay name names. Who is it that has had their mind changed by the force of your facts and intellect. I won't hold my breath waiting for an answer. did you tell us back in 2005-2007 that Man City would be bought by Arabs ? Why did you want Fred out ? Why was he booed ? Why does any of this mean NUFC have to sell their best players and compete at the levels of Blackburn and Bolton ? Use what facts you can find and any intellect you can muster. I won't hold my breath waiting for an answer. Same old same old. Simple question gets no answer and a wacky reply. ironic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gejon 2 Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 Just had a thought: If McKay is confident that he can get Barton as good a contract at any time elsewhere, then what difference does the length of contract make? They must think it will be difficult for them to get a decent wage offer in 3 years time, presumably because players of that age arent worth £40k a week. So, why should we hand him a contract paying him that money which the negotiation clearly reveals McKay is not confident of securing elsewhere? Spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 "Joey7Barton: I will tell all when the time is right, basically they want a younger, better, cheaper player............cant blame Mike and Derek can you?" http://www.twitter.com/Joey7Barton/status/74872635107966976 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonMarshy 2 Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Joey7Barton Joseph Barton I will tell all when the time is right, basically they want a younger, better, cheaper player............cant blame Mike and Derek can you? @Joey7BartonJoseph Barton .......slight problem is, they dont want to spend any money or pay any wages. Its genius really ha ha Joey7Barton Joseph Barton I am an employee so have to be careful here. Everyone knows i'd love to stay, i get on with Pardew fine and are dressing room is 1st class.. Joey7Barton Joseph Barton if am not offered a new contract, my hands are tied. I will continue to do everything in my power to bring a trophy to St James next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 "Cheap" being the significant word here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13807 Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Barton has also been lying according to a a local journalist. Who to believe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5883 Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 I give it 24hours before his account is deleted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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