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Cheers for clearing that up Craig.

 

Anyone read this with a sense of dread :

 

Llambias added: "The fans want us to buy more players, we need a new striker in January, we'll need replacements in the summer.
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Northern Rock is up at the end of the season according to Derek Llambias - which is unusual as they signed a deal till 2014.

 

Are Sports Direct going to show us how to do shirt sponsors :rolleyes:

 

Aye, that seems strange to me.

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Stevie, imo a piece of architecture has far more historical importance than a name. The greatest crime committed against Newcastle's heritage was what happened to Grainger town, to even equate this to that event in terms of importance is hysterical (in the true meaning of the word). If we followed your thinking and used it as a guide to preservation of heritage, we'd be playing at a knackered and unsafe stadium. Knocking down Grainger town was a crime, re-naming a stadium for the duration of this current ownership is small time in comparison.

 

 

Yeah , a name means fuck all. Does sir fancy Sports Direct United?

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Stevie, imo a piece of architecture has far more historical importance than a name. The greatest crime committed against Newcastle's heritage was what happened to Grainger town, to even equate this to that event in terms of importance is hysterical (in the true meaning of the word). If we followed your thinking and used it as a guide to preservation of heritage, we'd be playing at a knackered and unsafe stadium. Knocking down Grainger town was a crime, re-naming a stadium for the duration of this current ownership is small time in comparison.

Knocking down Grainger town is completely unconnected with this, and the two things are incomparable. Knocking parts of Grainger town were of course a sacrilege, but it in no way has any relevance or indeed diminishes the bastardisation and murder of our heritage which has taken place in the last 12 hours. I'm astonished you can't see that.

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Cheers for clearing that up Craig.

 

Anyone read this with a sense of dread :

 

Llambias added: "The fans want us to buy more players, we need a new striker in January, we'll need replacements in the summer.

 

Indeed, very different from 'we'll need additions in the summer'.

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Would people feel any different if a big, well respected company comes in and takes the naming rights/shirt deal?

 

I think that's part of the plan tbh, if we have SD for a couple of seasons then any sort of classier brand after that will seem like an improvement.

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Didn't Llambias claim SJP would always be in the name after the last renaming debacle?

 

from .COM

 

PS: back to that 2009 announcement, following which NUFC MD Derek Llambias was asked if the name St James' Park would always remain as the official stadium name.

 

His reply was simple:

 

"Absolutely. In our reign, absolutely."

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Stevie, imo a piece of architecture has far more historical importance than a name. The greatest crime committed against Newcastle's heritage was what happened to Grainger town, to even equate this to that event in terms of importance is hysterical (in the true meaning of the word). If we followed your thinking and used it as a guide to preservation of heritage, we'd be playing at a knackered and unsafe stadium. Knocking down Grainger town was a crime, re-naming a stadium for the duration of this current ownership is small time in comparison.

 

 

Yeah , a name means fuck all. Does sir fancy Sports Direct United?

I could talk for hours about the history and cultural heritage of my city, not to a racist norwegian mug though.

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He's looking down on the fans:

 

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Gemmil's spot on with what he said, putting the fans in their place just when things are looking at being a bit better. I'll still call it St James and I'm sure most other Toon fans will until the next generation of supporters come along, sad to think that something can be changed so easily by someone obviously out to be a spiteful cunt just because it suits him. Regardless of financial gain or the club being 'better off' it's getting to the stage where nothing about it is sacred and the heart is being ripped from it, I'd rather be struggling at the bottom of the table with all our heritage and history than nearer the top and be a generic, non-descript football 'club' without any identity. It's like one of these manufactured popstars off X Factor - there's nothing special or individual about them, they're just there and they get a high profile in the business they're in because they're part of a tacky, money making exercise by some chump out to make himself cash.

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There's no way a new sponsor would come in and take the bullet over the stadium name change. It would be terrible publicity. SD takes the initial hit and then possibly we end up with something like 'The ___ St James' Park' if a new sponsor come in.

 

They've already struggled to sell the naming rights and in-house branding. They're looking to do one big package now incorporating shirt sponsorship/stadium name and in-house signage. I wonder if they'll be able to attract anyone.

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So HF are you saying that when SD inevitably become our shirt sponsors, this will also be free?

I honestly did believe you were brighter than this.

 

By linking the shirt deal with the toxic naming rights and quoting £10m for the privilege he's basically minimising the chance of anyone actually taking up the deal. Which means in a years time we will be wandering round with SD on our tops.

 

You're going to mock me here but I think there's worse to come.

 

Nov 11 - stadium name change to "promote the advertising potential"

 

Feb 12 - Llambias blames fans for lack of transfer purchases & sale of Colo "your protests against name change is putting sponsors off"

 

Aug 12 - no new sponsors therefore SD on shirts to "further promote the advertising potential".

 

Oct 12 - Llambias blames fans for lack of transfer purchases & sale of Tiote & Cabaye "protests against name change is putting sponsors off"

 

Feb 13 - Llambias blames fans for lack of transfer purchases & sale of Ba, HBA & Krul "your protests against name change is putting sponsors off"

 

Aug 13 - Club announce they've been forced to add to sponsorship benefits. "have the strips in your corporate colours with your name on the front "amazing chance to fully sponsor a major Championship club for only £50m per season". Sports Direct step in and graciously offer to let use use Blue & Red as a showcase.

 

Aug 15 - "On Sky Sports 7 today we have the clash of the titans, our new First Division coverage starts with a trip to the Sports Direct Arena as Sports Direct FC take on Brighton" meanwhile Football Club United Newcastle play their inaugural game against Hebburn Labour Club in front of a 30k crowd.

 

 

I've made the statement & I stand by it. I will never set foot inside the Sports Direct Arena unless it is to take part in some organised protest, this is our club and our stadium it is not a corporate brand. It is Newcastle United FC @ St James' Park

 

So you will be giving them the very excuse you state they need for all those things you predict.

 

It is and always will be SJP, ignore it.

 

Oh, and you'll never get 30K in Hebburn, it's south of the river, Newcastle can't be based south of the water, nee fucker'd go.

Fuck off you cunt. I hate cunts like you.

 

You mean hate people who don't cry at the slightest thing ???

Slightest thing1?!?!??!?!?!?! 130 years of history consigned to memory in one sweep. You fucking arsehole! Will the renaming of NUFC be a slight thing too. As I said last night it will never happen at Celtic or Man Utd. Imagine this "the Champions League Quarter Final between AC Milan and Chelse is live arfter the break from the Dominos Pizza Arena", it's as bad as what he's done. The two of them could spit roast your wife, "well I'm all for sanctioning positive feelings at boardroom level". You're a tit mate a fuckin tit.

 

Consigned to memory, get a grip man, who amongst supporters (who are all that matters tbh) anywhere (except Sunlun for the wind up factor) is going to call it SD Arena. No-one who matters will. It is and always shall be SJP.

 

Do I think what he's done is right, no. But it makes no difference unless you let it.

 

You got over SD @ SJP, you'll get over this.

Do you think Sky Sports and the BBC and the newspapers will be referring to where a game has taken place as SJP? You must be off your trolley pal, the whole world will think we now play at the SD Arena. I'd rather it was called the STD Arena than this. Kids will grow up, impressionable kids 8-14 and it will just be normal to call it the Sports Direct Arena, they'll grow wondering what the fuss is about SJP. He's done everything else you can do to strip a club of it's dignity, this is the worst, and the only lower he can go now is changing our colours and actually renaming the club.

 

So what. If it works on the pitch, who cares.

Up here, where it matters, it will always be SJP. If the team’s doing well and impressionable kids in Timbuktu, or elsewhere, think we play at SDA but buy shirts etc it doesn’t matter, IF (Big IF) that’s reflected on the pitch.

What if we’d moved to a new stadium SJP would really have been consigned to memory as Highbury has been and Anfield or WHL likely will be.

It’s all about the commercial stuff things these days, and new revenue streams, Man U (as you mention) don’t need to do it, they get tens of millions a year for a brand badge on their training kit FFS. If their money was tight don’t believe for a second Old Trafford would be sacrosanct. If you do you are naive in the extreme. (The Glazers have previous, albeit in a new stadium). Chelsea are already (and have been) looking at similar for a while.

Would you trade winning something(s) for the name of the ground ?? (I would btw)

On the wider front, he’s evidently after France’s biggest sports retailer, we’re currently “flavour of the month” in France, he ain’t daft is he. BUT for him to really use NUFC as a vehicle to maximise SD, NUFC has to do well on the pitch, which is all anyone wants, surely.

What would you really prefer a deserted SJP and a struggling (plummeting team) or a succesfull team which plays at the SDA.

Team colours and name would fall into my sacrosanct category by the way.

He owns every atom of the club, it is his, he can, and will do what he wants. No amount of protests can change that, what they can change is the performance of the team on the pitch, in “Toonpack world” the team on the pitch is what the game is about.

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Chez, full list of renamed sports stadiums here(UK)

 

http://en.wikipedia...._rights#England

Every single one built since 1988

How many bricks at SJP were laid before then?

What's that got to do with anything? It's the same land, the same place, the same history, the same Gallowgate burial land where hundreds of gypsies were hanged. Some people are clutching at straws here.

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Stevie, imo a piece of architecture has far more historical importance than a name. The greatest crime committed against Newcastle's heritage was what happened to Grainger town, to even equate this to that event in terms of importance is hysterical (in the true meaning of the word). If we followed your thinking and used it as a guide to preservation of heritage, we'd be playing at a knackered and unsafe stadium. Knocking down Grainger town was a crime, re-naming a stadium for the duration of this current ownership is small time in comparison.

 

 

Yeah , a name means fuck all. Does sir fancy Sports Direct United?

I could talk for hours about the history and cultural heritage of my city, not to a racist norwegian mug though.

 

Name means fuck all then, got it. Even I, sitting in polar bear country, find this sad. Baffled that a geordie like yourself dont mind it at all.

In a generation St.James Park will be a name you will have to look up on wikipedia and read about, noone will be using it except for old people.

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Chez, full list of renamed sports stadiums here(UK)

 

http://en.wikipedia...._rights#England

Every single one built since 1988

How many bricks at SJP were laid before then?

What's that got to do with anything? It's the same land, the same place, the same history, the same Gallowgate burial land where hundreds of gypsies were hanged. Some people are clutching at straws here.

 

Sadly, some people already fall in to Ashley's dream of plastic fans reinvented in his own desired image - we'll be getting called Mike Ashley FC next.

 

*Wasn't referring to you there Chez, I might not agree with you but was in meaning more to Saltwater.

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So what. If it works on the pitch, who cares.

Up here, where it matters, it will always be SJP.

 

At least for a few years until a new generation grows up. To them it has always been SD arena. You`d be surprised how quick people forget.

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So HF are you saying that when SD inevitably become our shirt sponsors, this will also be free?

I honestly did believe you were brighter than this.

 

By linking the shirt deal with the toxic naming rights and quoting £10m for the privilege he's basically minimising the chance of anyone actually taking up the deal. Which means in a years time we will be wandering round with SD on our tops.

 

You're going to mock me here but I think there's worse to come.

 

Nov 11 - stadium name change to "promote the advertising potential"

 

Feb 12 - Llambias blames fans for lack of transfer purchases & sale of Colo "your protests against name change is putting sponsors off"

 

Aug 12 - no new sponsors therefore SD on shirts to "further promote the advertising potential".

 

Oct 12 - Llambias blames fans for lack of transfer purchases & sale of Tiote & Cabaye "protests against name change is putting sponsors off"

 

Feb 13 - Llambias blames fans for lack of transfer purchases & sale of Ba, HBA & Krul "your protests against name change is putting sponsors off"

 

Aug 13 - Club announce they've been forced to add to sponsorship benefits. "have the strips in your corporate colours with your name on the front "amazing chance to fully sponsor a major Championship club for only £50m per season". Sports Direct step in and graciously offer to let use use Blue & Red as a showcase.

 

Aug 15 - "On Sky Sports 7 today we have the clash of the titans, our new First Division coverage starts with a trip to the Sports Direct Arena as Sports Direct FC take on Brighton" meanwhile Football Club United Newcastle play their inaugural game against Hebburn Labour Club in front of a 30k crowd.

 

 

I've made the statement & I stand by it. I will never set foot inside the Sports Direct Arena unless it is to take part in some organised protest, this is our club and our stadium it is not a corporate brand. It is Newcastle United FC @ St James' Park

 

So you will be giving them the very excuse you state they need for all those things you predict.

 

It is and always will be SJP, ignore it.

 

Oh, and you'll never get 30K in Hebburn, it's south of the river, Newcastle can't be based south of the water, nee fucker'd go.

Fuck off you cunt. I hate cunts like you.

 

You mean hate people who don't cry at the slightest thing ???

Slightest thing1?!?!??!?!?!?! 130 years of history consigned to memory in one sweep. You fucking arsehole! Will the renaming of NUFC be a slight thing too. As I said last night it will never happen at Celtic or Man Utd. Imagine this "the Champions League Quarter Final between AC Milan and Chelse is live arfter the break from the Dominos Pizza Arena", it's as bad as what he's done. The two of them could spit roast your wife, "well I'm all for sanctioning positive feelings at boardroom level". You're a tit mate a fuckin tit.

 

Consigned to memory, get a grip man, who amongst supporters (who are all that matters tbh) anywhere (except Sunlun for the wind up factor) is going to call it SD Arena. No-one who matters will. It is and always shall be SJP.

 

Do I think what he's done is right, no. But it makes no difference unless you let it.

 

You got over SD @ SJP, you'll get over this.

Do you think Sky Sports and the BBC and the newspapers will be referring to where a game has taken place as SJP? You must be off your trolley pal, the whole world will think we now play at the SD Arena. I'd rather it was called the STD Arena than this. Kids will grow up, impressionable kids 8-14 and it will just be normal to call it the Sports Direct Arena, they'll grow wondering what the fuss is about SJP. He's done everything else you can do to strip a club of it's dignity, this is the worst, and the only lower he can go now is changing our colours and actually renaming the club.

 

So what. If it works on the pitch, who cares.

Up here, where it matters, it will always be SJP. If the team’s doing well and impressionable kids in Timbuktu, or elsewhere, think we play at SDA but buy shirts etc it doesn’t matter, IF (Big IF) that’s reflected on the pitch.

What if we’d moved to a new stadium SJP would really have been consigned to memory as Highbury has been and Anfield or WHL likely will be.

It’s all about the commercial stuff things these days, and new revenue streams, Man U (as you mention) don’t need to do it, they get tens of millions a year for a brand badge on their training kit FFS. If their money was tight don’t believe for a second Old Trafford would be sacrosanct. If you do you are naive in the extreme. (The Glazers have previous, albeit in a new stadium). Chelsea are already (and have been) looking at similar for a while.

Would you trade winning something(s) for the name of the ground ?? (I would btw)

On the wider front, he’s evidently after France’s biggest sports retailer, we’re currently “flavour of the month” in France, he ain’t daft is he. BUT for him to really use NUFC as a vehicle to maximise SD, NUFC has to do well on the pitch, which is all anyone wants, surely.

What would you really prefer a deserted SJP and a struggling (plummeting team) or a succesfull team which plays at the SDA.

Team colours and name would fall into my sacrosanct category by the way.

He owns every atom of the club, it is his, he can, and will do what he wants. No amount of protests can change that, what they can change is the performance of the team on the pitch, in “Toonpack world” the team on the pitch is what the game is about.

I care. People like me from Newcastle care. Not some old arsehole who has recently found the club since we were briefly a force in English football. The majority of people in the City care. Should we rename all of the roads too, because some fat billionaire who won't even be here in then years, hopefully dead, thinks it's a good marketing ploy??? Up here where it matters? Well I'm sorry we live in a global society now, and how we are seen our heritage, our IDENTITY, is as important to geordies as any other club in the world that I can think of. Where do you draw the line, shall we change the name of the city too, and fucking the country??

 

Why are team colours more important than the actual cathedral of our football team and it's name. SJP has been part of Newcastle longer than we have been black and white. I just can't get my head round how the tiny minority, I may add can shed any positive light on a fat cockney barrow boy dismiss 130 years of Newcastle upon Tyne heritage. It beggars belief.

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There's no way a new sponsor would come in and take the bullet over the stadium name change. It would be terrible publicity. SD takes the initial hit and then possibly we end up with something like 'The ___ St James' Park' if a new sponsor come in.

 

They've already struggled to sell the naming rights and in-house branding. They're looking to do one big package now incorporating shirt sponsorship/stadium name and in-house signage. I wonder if they'll be able to attract anyone.

 

I don't even think they intend to sell the naming rights, this is just more free advertising for the Fat Man. Modern football is rubbish, no news in that. But normally the naming rights are sold in order to generate income for the club. That's not the case here, the club/the fans won't benefit at all from this. Makes you sick.

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Genuine question, can you change a teams very name - legally speaking?

Also, if you are to sell the stadium name - why not just call it St.James Park until a buyer shows up? Why rename it in the process and piss everyone off for a temporary name? I just dont buy it, I think we are gonna get stuck with this name for the foreseeable future. And they wont pay a penny for it, so unfortunately that wont free up any funds for further purchases.

 

we might have to replace a few players next summer though...

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