Kid Dynamite 5899 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Thanks for the goals Ryan but it's time to put a proper left back in the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Great thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5899 Posted November 19, 2011 Author Share Posted November 19, 2011 Matched by the reply. Should I have added 'discuss'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 It was only a matter of time before Taylor had a game like he did today. There's no disgrace in it, as we bought him as a backup utility player from Wigan. It also shouldn't be forgotten that he has had an excellent season, especially by his standards, and has been an integral part of the meanest defence in the league. We all know he's not the long-term solution, but I'm not going to slate him, especially after his efforts for us so far this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 He's done well for us overall this season. Not the full-term left back we want though, and he's always going to get 'found out' against the top teams in the league. Let's not forget he's won us two games with some belting goals... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 12755 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Reactionary nonsense. Had one poor game in a string of 12 ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4201 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 (edited) Reactionary nonsense. Had one poor game in a string of 12 ffs. but you just said youve not seen the match in the other thread there once you see the handball and the goal you'll understand its not reactionary as we all knew he was a stopgap who was staying in due to being in decent form and winning us a couple with his goals. I couldnt say hes lost us this one today because I honestly think city would've beaten us anyway but hes certainly cost us and I reckon its time for the fullback we spent 5 million or whatever it was on in summer to get some games its like when roeder was appointed, he was caretaker who did alright and then got promoted to the fulltime job off the back of it but he was never going to be a success longterm for us Raylor is the roeder (as a manager) of leftbacks Edited November 19, 2011 by Semimental Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 I'm not sure what having seen or not seen the match has to do with it. It's still reactionary to drop him because of one particularly bad game out of 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CabayeAye Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Santon>Raylor>Simpson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 (edited) Right, because you've seen so much of Santon and he's proven himself in this league. I'd wait before judging Santon. Doing well for Inter Milan a couple of years ago means nothing if you can't cut it in the Prem. Edited November 19, 2011 by Tecato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 (edited) Thanks for the goals Ryan but it's time to put a proper left back in the team Actually - Santon is not even a proper left back is he? From what I know, he's a RB that can play on the left if needed. We have good options in him and Ferguson but them being more natural full-backs doesn't mean they should automatically get a start the moment Ryan Taylor has a truly bad game. Edited November 19, 2011 by Tecato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lake Bells tits 1 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Raylor is an accident waiting to happen, thats for sure. That being said he has been good for us this season. Still though, there will come a time where he is limiting our progress - if not yet then at some point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19770 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 (edited) poor game today from r taylor but i'm not sure throwing in santon for his full premiership debut at old trafford is the right move. we all know taylor isn't the long term solution at left back but you have to give him credit for his performances this season. we've always known he's the best taker of set pieces at the club, and one of the best in the premiership at hitting a dead ball. but now he's also demonstrated that with good coaching, he can hold his position and contribute to a solid defensive display. he's done enough to earn a new contract and i think we'll all be more confident in hm being given a go in his more natural positions of right midfield and right back in the future. santon isn't a natural left footer either so it will be interesting to see if he makes the position his own either or whether he goes on to play more frequently at rigjht back. i'd still like to see us sign a natural left-footed left back to replace enrique in the long term. i'd give taylor another chance so his head doesn't go down and if he performs poorly again, give santon a go at home to chelsea. Edited November 19, 2011 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lake Bells tits 1 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Id prefer to give Santon his blood debut on Old trafford tbh. What could possibly go wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2bias 3 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Reactionary nonsense. Had one poor game in a string of 12 ffs. Totally agree. Same old story on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo 0 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Should have at least have at least given Santon a run out at some point today. Lad needs to get some min under belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 3442 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Lets's not forget about Jonas either, Taylor doesnt even play at LB alone, Jonas' main role seems to be ensuring his full back doesn't get embarrassed too often. Our formation should read 4.5 - 3.5 - 2 Taylor's been exposed time and time again this season by some of the better sides, was only a matter of time before this happened, he just isnt good enough. I like the lad, seems to try hard enough,wish he could do well but he just doesnt have the ability. Either give Santon a chance at LB, or find a bloody new full back in January. Not going to fun seeing him against Nani/Young etc next game either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia 0 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 (edited) Santon is more of a right back than a left back, until he learns English and gets to grips with the physical side of the English game that is. I'm not a huge Raylor fan but he's had some cracking games this season. He's done much more than just score a few goals as some would like you to believe. Today he came up against arguably the best right back in what is almost certainly the best team in the league and he had a rough time. No shame in that, better players will do similar. We need a proper left back, hopefully we'll find one in January, but I'm not calling for the removal of Raylor on the back of this result especially as I think Santon is much better suited to the right. Edited November 19, 2011 by Ketsbaia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5899 Posted November 19, 2011 Author Share Posted November 19, 2011 Santon is more of a right back than a left back, until he learns English and gets to grips with the physical side of the English game that is. I'm not a huge Raylor fan but he's had some cracking games this season. He's done much more than just score a few goals as some would like you to believe. Today he came up against arguably the best right back in what is almost certainly the best team in the league and he had a rough time. No shame in that, better players will do similar. We need a proper left back, hopefully we'll find one in January, but I'm not calling for the removal of Raylor on the back of this result especially as I think Santon is much better suited to the right. He was bought as a replacement for Enrique so he is obviously fancied as a left back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia 0 Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Santon is more of a right back than a left back, until he learns English and gets to grips with the physical side of the English game that is. I'm not a huge Raylor fan but he's had some cracking games this season. He's done much more than just score a few goals as some would like you to believe. Today he came up against arguably the best right back in what is almost certainly the best team in the league and he had a rough time. No shame in that, better players will do similar. We need a proper left back, hopefully we'll find one in January, but I'm not calling for the removal of Raylor on the back of this result especially as I think Santon is much better suited to the right. He was bought as a replacement for Enrique so he is obviously fancied as a left back Much more strong at right back from what I've seen. Played at LB against Blackburn in the cup and had a pretty average game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay 8 Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 It was only a matter of time before Taylor had a game like he did today. There's no disgrace in it, as we bought him as a backup utility player from Wigan. It also shouldn't be forgotten that he has had an excellent season, especially by his standards, and has been an integral part of the meanest defence in the league. We all know he's not the long-term solution, but I'm not going to slate him, especially after his efforts for us so far this season. Spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelie 103 Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 I think it's interesting to note that Santon was on the Italian under 21 squad for their last two games but was an unused substitute in both of them. I wonder why. Interesting to note that Pardoo brought on full-back Perch rather than Santon against Man.City. I wonder why. IMO Raylor was crap against Man.City and it's not the first crap game he's had. If you spend 5 million for a full-back you should be playing him to see if you got value for your money even if it's in the reserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loonyTOON 10 Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Santon will be the permanent replacement for Simpson. They'll bring a LB like Pieters into the club in Jan. Simpson nearly left in summer, which would have seen Taylor to rb and then santon at lb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Reactionary nonsense. Had one poor game in a string of 12 ffs. Yeah let's keep a crap makeshift left back in the side while Santon finishes his memories of playiing for Newcastle (one page). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 I think it's interesting to note that Santon was on the Italian under 21 squad for their last two games but was an unused substitute in both of them. I wonder why. Interesting to note that Pardoo brought on full-back Perch rather than Santon against Man.City. I wonder why. IMO Raylor was crap against Man.City and it's not the first crap game he's had. If you spend 5 million for a full-back you should be playing him to see if you got value for your money even if it's in the reserves. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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