ChezGiven 0 Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Aeris is a shit wum, ignore him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeris 0 Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 And you know this, how? What big egos has he fallen out with over his career? Just theories... but I figured that's why we only want good, shy and tidy boys in our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13807 Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Ben Arfa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 He said: “I think both Papiss and Demba have been under par. “If we can beat Villa, those two guys then go away for Ivory Coast-Senegal, which is a massive game for this club. “If Senegal end up going through and we lose those two strikers, it’s going to worry me. “Then, in the next transfer window we’re going to have to do something about it. Er, were the club waiting on the Senegal-Ivory Coast play-off to decide whether to get a new striker in or something? Poor form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5883 Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 That last sentence. He's said that about 5 times during this window. Good luck getting Ashley to put his hand in his pocket to buy a player that might only be needed for 3 weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8949 Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 The Simon Bird column: The transfer window was a massive opportunity missed for Newcastle, will they come to regret it in January? A squad that excelled needed to be kept on their toes and kept fresh with new faces in all departments. Ambitious players who stayed needed to be convinced that more progress was on the cards Six weeks ago Alan Pardew warned that Newcastle "can't stand still" as he dealt with queries about a host of summer transfer targets. Andy Carroll, Luuk De Jong, Mathieu Debuchy, Douglas and Junior Hoilett were among the "two or three" quality signings that were being targeted. As the transfer window closed the emphasis from Newcastle shifted. The window was instead going to be a triumph that Newcastle have held on to their biggest names, with last ditch bids apparently turned down for Yohan Cabaye and Cheick Tiote. Papiss Cisse and Demba Ba, we are indeed grateful, are still on Tyneside. Pardew probably doesn't want to pick a fight with his employers in public, and has remained sanguine with the situation. To do anything other would show a lack of confidence in the squad he now has to inspire. And admittedly many other managers have had their let downs as the window closed, notably Brendan Rodgers. But there is little doubt that this transfer window was a disappointment for Newcastle. Some would go as far as saying it was a bit of a failure. That, we can only judge at the end of the season, and on how the new recruits shape up. In the afterglow of a fifth place finish last season, plus four points from three league games and Europa League group stage qualification secured so far this term, no one is rocking the boat to say so just yet. However this summer presented a massive missed opportunity. Fortified by a reputation of now being back in the Premier League elite, this was time to consolidate by nabbing players who saw the stardust of last season and who would not fancy a moves to smaller clubs in the middle or lower reaches of the league. It should be easier to strengthen from a position of strength. A squad that excelled needed to be kept on their toes and kept fresh with new faces in all departments. Ambitious players who stayed, needed to be convinced that more progress was on the cards. With direct rivals like Liverpool and Spurs in that awkward new manager transition period, it was time to push on. But it hasn't happened, and later in the season, as demands of Europe, the league, and cups, and injuries start to bite - not to mention potentially losing Cisse and Ba for up to five weeks in January for the African Nations' Cup - the impact might be severe. It feels like an chance missed. A bit like the summer after Newcastle finished third, qualifying for the Champions' League for the second year running and kicked on by signing..... Lee Bowyer on a free. Well, perhaps not quite that bad. Instead there was only one significant incoming - £6 million Vurnon Anita from Ajax, along with Gael Bigirimanan (£1 million) from Coventry and Romain Amalfitano (free). Do some rough maths, and it is clear that Newcastle have put themselves in a healthier financial position this summer, instead of a healthier position on the pitch. Alan Smith's exit left £3 million in wages freed up to "spend". Leon Best's early sale raised £2 million and freed up probably around another million in wages. Fraser Forster was sold for £2.5 million to Celtic, Danny Guthrie headed to Reading on a free freeing up another million in wages. Peter Lovenkrands was released too. So a keeper, two strikers, and two midfielders out of the door raising a transfer pot of around £4.5 million, and wages of £5 million saved. A squad weakened, certainly in numbers, at a time when they needed to increase the body count, and quality in the ranks. There is some merit in Newcastle's tough negotiating stance that got them into this position. No fan wants the club to be mugged for inflated prices or wages, and they've shown some bottle that rivals may note, in walking away from unsuitable deals. There is continued merit in running a tight ship and keeping the club breaking even. But it can only go so far, especially when examining the squad's weaker positions, for instance at full back. Injuries to Ryan Taylor (months), and Danny Simpson (possibly weeks) mean they only have one fit specialist. The plan was to sell soon to be out of contract Danny Simpson (raising up to £3 million), and bring in French Euro 2012 star Debuchy. An outlay costing a net £4 million. That would have been strengthening, and juggling the budget. Should Senegal beat Ivory Coast this week in their ACN play off, Cisse and Ba will be off in January. Who plays up front then? Shola Amoebi is currently injured. Adam Campbell is an untried kid - hardly a squad ready for a top five challenge. Against Aston Villa on Sunday Newcastle were lethargic and disjointed. Perhaps if Andy Carroll has been sitting on the bench Cisse and Ba would have been livelier in the first hour under threat of the axe. Perhaps if Debuchy had been playing, Cabaye would have been more certain that he is with a club determined to build on success, rather than gamble on a skeletal squad. There is no doubt that Newcastle's first choice XI is top quality when on form. If all goes well the first team are capable of repeating last season's 5th. A dip in application, or quality, and it is upper mid-table ordinary. Dig into the squad, like Pardew will have to do this season for Europa League games, and there is plenty for the untested youngsters to prove. And that is also part of the plan and a reason cash wasn't spent. There is no point in having an underbelly of youth like Haris Vuckic, Dan Gosling, James Tavernier and Sammy Ameobi without giving them a try. Newcastle's transfer window gamble, keeping cash in the bank and walking away from deals, means those lads will certainly have to rise to the occasion this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lake Bells tits 1 Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 On the bright side, our youngsters are given the fast lane to PL-gametime. Its a massive gamble but at least thats something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeris 0 Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 On the bright side, our youngsters are given the fast lane to PL-gametime. Its a massive gamble but at least thats something... If they had any talent, they would be given it already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lake Bells tits 1 Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 yer, not exactly in the Sterling mold any of them.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Good article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 31 Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Aye good article. Don't agree in writing off our kids though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Superb from Bird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Aye good article. Don't agree in writing off our kids though. Hmm, the only home grown one who has a chance of being Newcastle United level long term is Adam Campbell. Your Shane Ferguson's, Vuckic's, they'll have good careers at a rung below us imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 31 Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Think it's too early to say for any. Campell looks cracking player now but that momentum needs to keep going (see Chopra). Some players are late coming on as well. I'm unsure about Sammy but could see him as a squad player for a while. Some of the others as well, I'm interested to see how they come on. I guess we'll find out this season now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 The Mirror say we made a £4m bid for Ince which was rejected. We'll be going back in this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2bias 3 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 The Mirror say we made a £4m bid for Ince which was rejected. We'll be going back in this summer. Looks a class player. Probabaly a good thing they didn't get in the Premier League IMO, Stay under the radar lad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4183 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 I might've missed this but who was the Number 11? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14527 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Andy Carroll...but Ashley wouldnt pay his wages.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2bias 3 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 I might've missed this but who was the Number 11? LOL! Get in Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Looks a class player. Probabaly a good thing they didn't get in the Premier League IMO, Stay under the radar lad! Matt Phillips looks good too. They've brought through a number of decent young players in recent seasons, Ince especially looks like he could do some damage at PL level. He's a long way away yet, mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 oh PSG's former Newcastle target Gregory van der Wiel can probably wave goodbye to any chance of VIP treatment at the Tup Tup Palace. "I really wanted to play for a club in a big city," he parped. "I don't know how serious they were, but I don't see myself living in the middle of nowhere in Newcastle." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 @davidmcrossan: #lille coach Rudi Garcia on #debuchy: "If #nufc had done what they should have done then Mathieu would have gone" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 12736 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 What we "should have done" to him is give him more than we valued Debuchy at, I assume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8949 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 What we "should have done" to him is give him more than we valued Debuchy at, I assume. (Although I'm not saying we shouldn't have paid a little more to get him as I believe our valuation was based on us not losing 3 of our defenders in the 1st couple of weeks) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 12736 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 If only Penelope Cruz would come round and do what she should, I'd be able to play with her baps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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