ewerk 26172 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Howay said: Aye, he paid somewhere between £70m-£90m for them iirc, has probably plunged another hundred million or so into them and they still owe nearly £70m to a bank which has a high interest rate as it was initially a short term loan I think. At this point short of someone buying SAFC off him (which as Kitman said isn’t happening) his only hope of getting anything back is them going into administration, I’ve heard it probably isn’t even his decision at this point and it’s depending on the external bank. Of course he could use his personal fortune, pay off the external debt and save them from any threat of administration but it’s highly unlikely he would do that. Honestly why should he as tbh he was sold down the river by Niall Quinn who spouted bollocks about the clubs potential, it’s fan base and draw etc, they’ve cost the bloke a fortune and I’m sure have given him a right headache for years. Short has actually loaned them £160m and probably more since their last accounts. No wonder he’s fucking sick of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2188 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 It’s funny as fuck that Short gets shot with shit on rtg about money (by the same people who probably haven’t paid full price for a ticket in years if ever). My impression is that Short has actually been pretty generous in terms of investment, it’s just that their board and management have been utterly incompetent from top to bottom, the players have taken the piss and the fans have deserted them in droves since they dropped out of the PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26172 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Short has put his money where his mouth is but has appointed all the wrong people and left it far too late to make changes when it was obvious they were needed. Blame should be assigned to the very top and that’s him. If he’d any sense he’d have cut his losses years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2188 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 9 minutes ago, ewerk said: Short has put his money where his mouth is but has appointed all the wrong people and left it far too late to make changes when it was obvious they were needed. Blame should be assigned to the very top and that’s him. If he’d any sense he’d have cut his losses years ago. Totally agree its Shorts fault, he’s fucked it up royally and is now paying the price. I wonder what he thinks of Niall Quinn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12447 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 (edited) 33 minutes ago, ewerk said: Short has actually loaned them £160m and probably more since their last accounts. No wonder he’s fucking sick of them. Fucking hell, I wasn’t sure and even then thought I may have been overdoing it but that’s shocking. Edited April 8, 2018 by Howay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26172 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 (edited) He pretty much wrote off (i.e. capitalised) £100m of the loan so that’s gone. Basically he’s put 1/4 of his wealth into the club. And got nothing but a FTM badge to show for it. Edited April 8, 2018 by ewerk 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 26605 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonatine 9941 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Could be wrong, but wasn't Niall Quinn paying himself a massive wedge when he was Chairman, one of the highest paid in the league at the time? He certainly did all right out of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19736 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 10 hours ago, Howmanheyman said: I've no idea what he's done before but I do know his Mam must've been at the shops* when he did that video of himself otherwise he wouldn't have been so loud. *Getting him some chicken nuggets for his tea to go with oven chips and beans. Didn’t know that was @Christmas Tree ‘s kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 10 hours ago, ewerk said: He pretty much wrote off (i.e. capitalised) £100m of the loan so that’s gone. Basically he’s put 1/4 of his wealth into the club. And got nothing but a FTM badge to show for it. It seems he stopped the majority of free tickets this season.A dagger through the heart of the best fans in the country who have benefited since the sos flat pack was built. On 04/04/2018 at 13:55, Alex said: Been pointed out before but they're the ones with the new(-ish) flatpack stadium (with the name stolen from elsewhere) and they even needed a fucking poll to decide on their official nickname such is their lack of identity. They're only really known for being near Newcastle which they don't exactly help themselves with since they can only identify in relation to us anyway. Not sure I believe many of them who say they'd rather have the 6 in a row than be two divisions above (which we all but are now) but the fact they're even prepared to say it defines how small time they are. They can get to fuck tbh. Know a couple of decent lads who support them but the club itself and the support of the paedo shows how 'classy' they really are (one bloke who didn't even go to the game who punched a horse defines us though ). Enjoy Burton (again) and Accrington tbh That is an excellent post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5883 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Transfermarkt is a great resource! Just a handful of the players signed under Short since he bought the club: Sessegnon £7mil Giaccherini £7.5mil Whickham £9mil Djilibodji £9.5mil Altidore £10mil Alvarez £10.5mil Borini £10.7mil Lens £11.4mil Khazri £11.8mil Bent £11.8mil Johnson £12.mil Turner £13.6mil Fletcher £15.2mil Gyan £16mil Ndong £20mil Not to mention the tens of millions spent on listening to the fans demanding the sacking of: Bruce O'Neill DiCanio Poyet Advocat Moyes Grayson And the fans have the temerity to call him tight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3181 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 49 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said: Transfermarkt is a great resource! Just a handful of the players signed under Short since he bought the club: Sessegnon £7mil Giaccherini £7.5mil Whickham £9mil Djilibodji £9.5mil Altidore £10mil Alvarez £10.5mil Borini £10.7mil Lens £11.4mil Khazri £11.8mil Bent £11.8mil Johnson £12.mil Turner £13.6mil Fletcher £15.2mil Gyan £16mil Ndong £20mil Not to mention the tens of millions spent on listening to the fans demanding the sacking of: Bruce O'Neill DiCanio Poyet Advocat Moyes Grayson And the fans have the temerity to call him tight You forgot Rodwell for £10mil plus his £37,000 a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Hog 331 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Did they ever sort out that winger that was on loan and injured but they still were required to pay the £10 million for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3181 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 8 minutes ago, The Mighty Hog said: Did they ever sort out that winger that was on loan and injured but they still were required to pay the £10 million for? Yes they paid it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8949 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 56 minutes ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said: You forgot Rodwell for £10mil plus his £37,000 a week. You mean £70k https://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/football/sunderland-afc/jack-rodwell-better-wake-up-to-the-fact-no-one-wants-him-sunderland-fans-react-on-twitter-to-midfielder-staying-at-club-1-8994390 Wasn't there an image doing the rounds last season showing they'd only made a profit on 2 or 3 players in flipping ages? If you chalk off home-grown players (good fortune rather than considered recruitment) I'm guessing their profit must be tiny or non-existent. It's not the be all and end all, obviously, but for a club to be plummeting don the leagues it's a good indicator as to where it all went wrong. I've tried googling it, but the only place it seems to be is the sunderland echo site, and am I shite registering to look at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30241 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 They better wake up to fact he's under contract until 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 3 hours ago, Alex said: They better wake up to fact he's under contract until 2019 Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Sir Bobby, Andy Carroll's family, Beefy and now... https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/steven-taylor.1425815/#post-27374465 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 For their renowned sense of humour, they don't seem to be able to be able to take any bit of craic at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8949 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Are they renowned for their sense of humour? I know the Scousers are, and the Mancs are renowned for an abundance of self confidence, but I've never heard anyone mention Sunderland fans famous sense of humour. To be honest I've never heard a neutral fan mention them except with reference to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Which scouser is funny ?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13807 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 My mate Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 13967 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Ken Dodd was Sir Ken Dodd for a reason, you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8949 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 1 hour ago, essembeeofsunderland said: Which scouser is funny ?????? Being famous for something doesn't necessarily mean you are/do that thing. Geordies are famous for being warm, genuine, funny people. But you're a miserable, humourless, Janus mother fucker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 3 hours ago, The Fish said: Are they renowned for their sense of humour? I know the Scousers are, and the Mancs are renowned for an abundance of self confidence, but I've never heard anyone mention Sunderland fans famous sense of humour. To be honest I've never heard a neutral fan mention them except with reference to us. I was taking the piss out of their self-image. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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