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10 hours ago, Howay said:

:lol: The evidence of this conspiracy is so clear, I would wonder why Look North haven’t investigated this but we know why that will never happen

Tell you what though, if there is an elaborate conspiracy, you can bet your life that the ringleaders revealed all the details of it to some mackem they encountered at a builders supply depot. 

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The fans are ignoring the part they've played in the whole mess. They've had 10 permanent managers between 2013 and 2019 due to their demands for sackings. And they still moan that some or them were in post too long :lol:

 

Their so hard done to that their precious owner wiped £200mil in debt whilst their current owner broke the league 1 transfer record and continued to pay Premier league wages to Cattermole, Oviedo, McGeady etc. in a bid to get them promoted 

 

Aye he's clearly a con man who was after flipping the club, but he's a Saint compared to Ashley 

 

 

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7 hours ago, Alex said:

Tell you what though, if there is an elaborate conspiracy, you can bet your life that the ringleaders revealed all the details of it to some mackem they encountered at a builders supply depot. 

:lol: Hanging around the crappy coffee/hot chocolate machine there was the mackem investigation teams key to success. 

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5 hours ago, Kid Dynamite said:

The fans are ignoring the part they've played in the whole mess. They've had 10 permanent managers between 2013 and 2019 due to their demands for sackings. And they still moan that some or them were in post too long :lol:

 

Their so hard done to that their precious owner wiped £200mil in debt whilst their current owner broke the league 1 transfer record and continued to pay Premier league wages to Cattermole, Oviedo, McGeady etc. in a bid to get them promoted 

 

Aye he's clearly a con man who was after flipping the club, but he's a Saint compared to Ashley 

 

 

Spot on. The atmosphere the fans generated is a good reason they are where they are. I think it’s Rayvin who pointed to how absolutely shocking their home form was (obviously the away form was poor but it was still better than their home) when they were in the Championship, their players didn’t want to play there to the point their top scorer literally asked to be recalled from loan so he could go somewhere else. I think they also burned a lot of bridges as teams that sent their youth players there saw the players suffer a torrent of abuse and likely regress. It’s not a coincidence that the vast majority of players that leave that club end up bitter as fuck about it. 
 

Agree on the owners, there was a window where they were doing all they could to get them up and sell, which would have probably worked and if the fans had accepted that and got behind the team it may have stood a better chance. Instead they become weirdly obsessed about how amazing the owners were but at the same time abusive and negative about the team any time there was a set back even really early in the season. 
 

Obviously the owners have made mistakes, but what does anyone expect? They’re total fucking amateurs and have less in the bank than a good portion of Championship players, but as you say the fan base have had a good hand in this mess too and as per usual are blaming anything and anyone (including this weird ‘the mags have done this’) to make it seem like they’re actually a decent fan base just down on their luck. 

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The majority who attend will only go if the tickets are free or subsidised. For proof look at their attendances for cup games. For FA Cup games the ticket money has to be handed over then distributed between both clubs and the FA. The same for the League Cup, or whatever you call it these days. Over 80,000 empty seats for the two Cup games. They must be out of pocket after holding both games and an expensive trip to Kent to come in around 10 days time. You have to wonder what was in the minds of those in investors who have recently handed over £10m. They're struggling to get ball boys ffs!!

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3 hours ago, Howay said:

Spot on. The atmosphere the fans generated is a good reason they are where they are. I think it’s Rayvin who pointed to how absolutely shocking their home form was (obviously the away form was poor but it was still better than their home) when they were in the Championship, their players didn’t want to play there to the point their top scorer literally asked to be recalled from loan so he could go somewhere else. I think they also burned a lot of bridges as teams that sent their youth players there saw the players suffer a torrent of abuse and likely regress. It’s not a coincidence that the vast majority of players that leave that club end up bitter as fuck about it. 
 

Agree on the owners, there was a window where they were doing all they could to get them up and sell, which would have probably worked and if the fans had accepted that and got behind the team it may have stood a better chance. Instead they become weirdly obsessed about how amazing the owners were but at the same time abusive and negative about the team any time there was a set back even really early in the season. 
 

Obviously the owners have made mistakes, but what does anyone expect? They’re total fucking amateurs and have less in the bank than a good portion of Championship players, but as you say the fan base have had a good hand in this mess too and as per usual are blaming anything and anyone (including this weird ‘the mags have done this’) to make it seem like they’re actually a decent fan base just down on their luck. 

I'd go back earlier to the constant change of manager when it came to derby day as beating 'the mags' trumped anything else. Their problems brushed under the carpet, buried and left to grow and grow till they were completely fucked and nosedived two divisions and fail to even get out of that lower league. But they beat the mags and got six-in-a-row.© They are just like Leeds under Ridsdale the only difference being Ridsdale fucked it up going for the champions league, the mackem's holy grail which has fucked them up for hopefully a generation was just beating the mags. They even manage to get less sympathy than Leeds United due to the multi examples of their lack of class in stinking out the divisions they slid out of. Never mind. Sniff.

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8 hours ago, Howmanheyman said:

when it came to derby day as beating 'the mags' trumped anything else. 

So it was a Mag conspiracy after all - losing to them just to ensure they ended up in Division 3 :) 

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2 minutes ago, Alex said:

That moment after they lost to Burton when Gary Bennett and the other lad on Radio Newcastle twigged they were mathematically down. 

With Bent scoring the decisive goal. You couldn't write a better script. :D

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5 minutes ago, essembeeofsunderland said:

Nee ball boys at the SOS or only one match ball? 

Dunno mate, could you not spot any ball boys from the home end like?

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It's like a piece of modern art

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I've never seen so many errors. Don't think this one got a single there/their/they're or were/where/we're right :lol:

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