Tom 13830 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 THREAD TITLE ADJUSTED 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 6815 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 It’s all rather delicious 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26232 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 I don't get the wailing and gnashing going on over there. If it were 20 years ago and they were close to signing him as a player then I'd understand but it's a bit like us losing our shit because we didn't get Gary Neville as manager. Keane is a watchable pundit but a shit manager. It seems to me that it's more to do with the fact that appointing Keane would re-affirm their relevance to footballing world. It might get a few minor headlines but you're still left with a shit manager. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13830 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Yeh Alex Neil is by far a better choice tbh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 12757 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Renton said: They don't care less about us man, couldn't give a fuck. I read it endlessly on a 1000 page thread on us, the third since our takeover. This lad seems a tad upset mind. Please find and link to this exact post, I need to print it as a poster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14574 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 17 minutes ago, Tom said: Yeh Alex Neil is by far a better choice tbh Neil Lennon is a decent choice ability wise and would certainly be my personal choice just for the fewm factor it would create 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13830 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 The fucking arrogance of these Cathwords man. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 6815 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Morons ??? Hmmmm ☝️ ☝️ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6300 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tom said: The fucking arrogance of these Cathwords man. To be fair, and objective they have (somewhat) of a point. They are one of the biggest clubs outside of the Premier League (perhaps only Derby, Forest, Sheff Utd, Wednesday or WBA could challenge that claim). But that's what makes their current plight and 3 year struggle to get out of Division 3 all the funnier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14030 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Toonpack said: Morons ??? Hmmmm ☝️ ☝️ mean thats what forums are for 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12452 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 They really are a gift that keeps on giving. This is EXACTLY the same thing they did to stay in the PL all those years, flirt with relegation, sack manager, ride the new manager bounce, stay up by the skin of their teeth, watch the squad weaken as the money invested become less and less. To constantly sustain a play off push has been costing them money, they’re clearly reaching a breaking point where the money is drying up, and while they’ve been using a new manager bounce every year to boost them into play off positions I assume the squad has degraded from the one they had first season down (they of course won’t admit it). If they don’t get promoted soon they’ll surely drop off this constant playoff push level. Even if they do go up they’d be massive favorites to go down, but that would probably help them refresh the squad quality and club coffers a little so they can establish themselves as a championship-League One yo-yo club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 6432 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Ladies and Gentlemen, Ponshon Monument. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13830 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 11 minutes ago, Craig said: To be fair, and objective they have (somewhat) of a point. They are one of the biggest clubs outside of the Premier League (perhaps only Derby, Forest, Sheff Utd, Wednesday or WBA could challenge that claim). But that's what makes their current plight and 3 year struggle to get out of Division 3 all the funnier. I think their “big club” claim diminishes every day tbh but to say stuff like that, they didn’t say “one of” they said the biggest, is absolutely absurd and laughable. They’re nobodies now and that’s not going to change. If by some miracle they go up they’ll be slapped about the championship something rotten. Sunderland association football club belongs to the past. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6300 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 That's why I said 'somewhat' 😉 On a serious note when you put all the criteria out there for 'what is a big club?' then speaking objectively, we'd be wrong to say they're not one of the top 6 clubs outside of the top tier. But you're right, their ability to claim it is indeed diminishing all the time. Sad state of affairs really because if they got the investment and, more importantly, the right leadership into the club then they could turn it around and get back to where they used to be, That said, their initial devotion to a French owner who wasn't even born when Tino was bagging a hat-trick against Barcelona combined with messiah-like pilgrimages towards Keane and Defoe is utterly laughable. If they have any desire of sorting themselves out, they need to let go of the past and completely reinvent themselves. Using Wolves from the 1980s wouldn't be a bad yardstick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26232 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 28 minutes ago, Toonpack said: Morons ??? Hmmmm ☝️ ☝️ Absolute morons. AM I WRIGHT?!?! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 12757 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Tbf, I bet there’s a couple of decent, forward-thinking managers who would jump at the chance of managing Sunderland who have been put off by the fans or the total amateurs running the show. I’m not talking someone who could drag them through the leagues in some Football Manager or Howe style revolution but someone who could Instill some sort of competence. Luckily, neither fans or owners have the patience for it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6300 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Just now, Ayatollah Hermione said: Tbf, I bet there’s a couple of decent, forward-thinking managers who would jump at the chance of managing Sunderland who have been put off by the fans or the total amateurs running the show. I’m not talking someone who could drag them through the leagues in some Football Manager or Howe style revolution but someone who could Instill some sort of competence. Luckily, neither fans or owners have the patience for it This indeed. There's some decent managers out there who they'd do well to appoint. But not, the cheesy-chip eating, knuckle-dragging, brainless morons want 'Super Roy' back and are crying because he's not stupid enough to fucking do it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14030 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, ewerk said: Absolute morons. AM I WRIGHT?!?! 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 7090 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 47 minutes ago, Tom said: The fucking arrogance of these Cathwords man. honestly, it was fucking hilarious that nearly the biggest club in all the land were getting their arses kicked off little cheltenham a couple days ago. can't wait till a team from the village of nailsworth do it next year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 6815 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 23 minutes ago, ewerk said: Absolute morons. AM I WRIGHT?!?! not rong like marra 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 6815 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 20 minutes ago, Ayatollah Hermione said: Tbf, I bet there’s a couple of decent, forward-thinking managers who would jump at the chance of managing Sunderland who have been put off by the fans or the total amateurs running the show. I’m not talking someone who could drag them through the leagues in some Football Manager or Howe style revolution but someone who could Instill some sort of competence. Luckily, neither fans or owners have the patience for it They were third, nailed on for playoffs, at least, and EVEN then they drove the manager out and the stupid owners listened to them - it's brilliant tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13830 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 27 minutes ago, Craig said: That's why I said 'somewhat' 😉 On a serious note when you put all the criteria out there for 'what is a big club?' then speaking objectively, we'd be wrong to say they're not one of the top 6 clubs outside of the top tier. But you're right, their ability to claim it is indeed diminishing all the time. Sad state of affairs really because if they got the investment and, more importantly, the right leadership into the club then they could turn it around and get back to where they used to be, That said, their initial devotion to a French owner who wasn't even born when Tino was bagging a hat-trick against Barcelona combined with messiah-like pilgrimages towards Keane and Defoe is utterly laughable. If they have any desire of sorting themselves out, they need to let go of the past and completely reinvent themselves. Using Wolves from the 1980s wouldn't be a bad yardstick. For them to make any progress at all they need to let go of Newcastle United. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19784 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 it must be absolute torture for them tbf, seeing where we are heading, compared to where they are now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12452 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Tom said: The fucking arrogance of these Cathwords man. They call us deluded, the fan base that just hounded out their manager who had them third, had the highest win rate in years (as ewerk pointed out), and from reports had them playing the best football they have played in fucking donkeys years. But aye they’re the best fan base ever. Totally not seen as poisonous deluded bastards. This is the same fan base where when they were in the championship their side won more games away from home, as playing at home they were subject to so much hostility . They don’t even have enough people that give a flying fuck enough to hold up a few flags man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6300 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 16 minutes ago, Tom said: For them to make any progress at all they need to let go of Newcastle United. As I've said a few times. We live in world where Newcastle United are the richest club on the planet and Gateshead got further in the FA Cup than Sunderland 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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