Guest CabayeAye Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 If AVB was English, people would be comparing him to Shteeve McClaren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 6130 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 They're a top side, let's have no confusion about that. This is no easy game. A win would be fantastic but I wouldn't be overly disappointed with a draw as long as we play our own game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SloopJohn 0 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Apparently Spurs have looked very leaky in their warm up games under AVB. he's been getting the defence to push up and with Dawson / Kaboul / Vertonghen at CB, they have very little pace so hopefully we can exploit in behind with Cisse's movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 6130 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Apparently Spurs have looked very leaky in their warm up games under AVB. he's been getting the defence to push up and with Dawson / Kaboul / Vertonghen at CB, they have very little pace so hopefully we can exploit in behind with Cisse's movement. Â Dawson is shite, Cisse and Ba should be able to exploit that if there's space around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 It's still a false achievement given the fact he spent way above their means which has lead them into the situation they are currently in. Well off the top of my head given the financial problems these clubs faced in the aftermath, by your reckoning all of these clubs had false achievement: Borussia Dortmund - Champions League Winners 1997 - False Achievement Rangers - SPL Winners 1999, 2000, 2003, 2005, 2009, 2010, 2011 - False Achievement Leicester City - League Cup Winners - 1997, 2000 - False Achievement  etc... etc.....  In fact given the fact Newcastle were a bigger club financially than Chelsea before Abramovic, and a bigger club than Man Ciy before the Arabs, you could say Chelsea's three league titles, four FA Cups and their Champions League, as well as Man City's BPL title, are all false achievement, but you wouldn't turn around and say aye Jose he won all those trophies, false achievement though because they were artificially supported and spending outwith their natural means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 It won't be an easy game, but we're good at home and we're looking alright in pre-season. Debuchy coming in would be a massive boost as I'm not sure Simpson getting caught out of position would do us any favours against a pacey team like Spuds. Â We are a bogey team for them, often an easy 6 points each season but they're a tidy outfit now. If Bale & VDV are injured and Modric is sold though then it's a massive loss for them and they'll struggle to fill the void. Good time to potentially play them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYD 0 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 A very good time to play them if those players are not playing, but 1st games of the season can often be tight games, so 1-1 for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Well off the top of my head given the financial problems these clubs faced in the aftermath, by your reckoning all of these clubs had false achievement:  Borussia Dortmund - Champions League Winners 1997 - False Achievement Rangers - SPL Winners 1999, 2000, 2003, 2005, 2009, 2010, 2011 - False Achievement Leicester City - League Cup Winners - 1997, 2000 - False Achievement  etc... etc.....  In fact given the fact Newcastle were a bigger club financially than Chelsea before Abramovic, and a bigger club than Man Ciy before the Arabs, you could say Chelsea's three league titles, four FA Cups and their Champions League, as well as Man City's BPL title, are all false achievement, but you wouldn't turn around and say aye Jose he won all those trophies, false achievement though because they were artificially supported and spending outwith their natural means.  Aye because that's the same like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Aye because that's the same like. Well it's ridiculous diminishing Redknapp's achievement in winning the FA Cup, and making them a good BPL club because he was allowed to spend money beyond what the club could afford. It's not even like Portsmouth were spending more money than us or Tottenham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CabayeAye Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 What the fuck is the BPL?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4183 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 What the fuck is the BPL?!  Barclays Premier League  that thing thats on every season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 What the fuck is the BPL?! Barclays Premier League. I guarantee Owen Coyle said those words more times last season than his wifes name, although not next season he won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 12737 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Barclays Premier League. I guarantee Owen Coyle said those words more times last season than his wifes name, although not next season he won't. Â Nar, we'll hear it, it'll just be "well, the aim is promotion to the Barclays Premier League" every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CabayeAye Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Why don't we just go back to Division 1? The Premier League has ruined football in this country, it really has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2bias 3 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Why don't we just go back to Division 1? The Premier League has ruined football in this country, it really has. No it hasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Why don't we just go back to Division 1? The Premier League has ruined football in this country, it really has. How? When I started going to games in the late 80's you had a bad neck at the finish the ball was in the air that much. Stoke City of today, would be the most cultured team in English football then. In terms of supporters I'd agree it's ruined, but that's more how life has evolved and how people are today than the actual football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14528 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 it took more than a change of name and sky money...the findings of the Taylor Report into Hillsborough forced through the most fundamental changes...and the Popplewell Report into the Bradford City fire in 1985. Dont think some of the worlds best players wouldve come to patched up Victorian and Edwardian stadiums for too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CabayeAye Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 The football would have improved anyway. What the PL has done is make money too much of a factor. If we scrapped transfer fees altogether, forced players to honour their contracts, limited players to £5,000 per week and put a cap of no more than 5 non-English players per squad of 23, we would have a highly competitive league of good English players, ticket prices of around £5-£15 and the footy would be easily available on the BBC/ITV.  Never going to happen though, because FIFA would need to enforce these rules world-wide, and the bribes/players claiming slavery would prevent it from happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 The football would have improved anyway. What the PL has done is make money too much of a factor. If we scrapped transfer fees altogether, forced players to honour their contracts, limited players to £5,000 per week and put a cap of no more than 5 non-English players per squad of 23, we would have a highly competitive league of good English players, ticket prices of around £5-£15 and the footy would be easily available on the BBC/ITV.  Never going to happen though, because FIFA would need to enforce these rules world-wide, and the bribes/players claiming slavery would prevent it from happening. It's not 1980's USSR you know. As if that would work in a market driven capitalist country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2406 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 The football would have improved anyway. What the PL has done is make money too much of a factor. If we scrapped transfer fees altogether, forced players to honour their contracts, limited players to £5,000 per week and put a cap of no more than 5 non-English players per squad of 23, we would have a highly competitive league of good English players, ticket prices of around £5-£15 and the footy would be easily available on the BBC/ITV.  Never going to happen though, because FIFA would need to enforce these rules world-wide, and the bribes/players claiming slavery would prevent it from happening.  Fuck me. Just because you can't make a bob decorating some cunts garden doesn't mean everyone else has to suffer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4183 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 changing the name will make all the difference tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Why not restrict clubs to raising orphans and only allow them to play only the orphans they produce themselves, pay them nothing, but provide all they need. Â Namby pamby Fifa probably won't allow it, but it solves the money problem....as well as the adoption crisis we face in the uk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CabayeAye Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Fuck me. Just because you can't make a bob decorating some cunts garden doesn't mean everyone else has to suffer. Â I earn a salary, so capitalism doesn't really bother me, like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleeToonFan 1 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Ticket bought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Ticket bought Good lad. Where are you sitting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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