The Fish 8989 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 I was hoping he would become a real star for us, but I guess heroes are hard to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Might see if he fancies a few pints with me seeing as I'm working down there at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2765 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Â Â Â Baffled, why is the loan only for 28 days? Why not 31 or 90. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8989 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Fleetwood, so nice they questioned it twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4210 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Baffled, why is the loan only for 28 days? Why not 31 or 90. 28 days is four weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2188 Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Settling into a new team in 4 weeks is a tough tusk for a youngster. Â Â I'll get me coat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKANDWHITEGEORDIE 0 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Just proves how crap Pardew is sending him to Fleetwood. If he is any good he should be on loan to a Championship club with a good Manager/Coach. Have ANY of the players we have sent out on loan to the Scottish league or the lower English leagues ever come back and made it to the first team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8989 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Just proves how crap Pardew is sending him to Fleetwood. If he is any good he should be on loan to a Championship club with a good Manager/Coach. Have ANY of the players we have sent out on loan to the Scottish league or the lower English leagues ever come back and made it to the first team? Hang on, how does Campbell not being good enough for a championship, become proof that Pardew is crap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38733 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 28 days is four weeksOh well. Â I spent a week there once, never going back again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKANDWHITEGEORDIE 0 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Hang on, how does Campbell not being good enough for a championship, become proof that Pardew is crap?The objective of a player going on loan is two fold. To give him more playing time and to improve his skills. Pardew is crap because he is giving the impression he couldn't give a s**t about Armstrong. To send a player on loan for 4 weeks to a club like Fleetwood is a joke. What does Pardew believe Armstrong will learn in that time? Who says he is not good enough for a Championship club? If Pardew circulated Championship clubs about the availability of certain players who knows. Going to a club like Derby with a coach like McLaren would definitely improve his play. I can see the same happening with Aarons. Dumping him in Scotland or Division 1/2. The standard of coaching overall at SJP is abysmal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8989 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 2 things; it's Campbell going on loan not Armstrong and you're assuming Pardew has any say in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 3453 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 If a longer term loan deal was not possible whats the harm in this? He could get to play a couple of games and if he does well there may be Championship clubs that would want to take him for the season.What would he do here in that month? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKANDWHITEGEORDIE 0 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 2 things; it's Campbell going on loan not Armstrong and you're assuming Pardew has any say in this.Apology for the screw up. However, if the Manager does not have a say in who goes on loan, then who does. The groundsman, the cleaners, the office staff etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetweenTheSticks 5 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Apology for the screw up. However, if the Manager does not have a say in who goes on loan, then who does. The groundsman, the cleaners, the office staff etc. Ultimately I think the final say lies with the tea lady... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38733 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 This has been discussed elsewhere in the forum. Second hand news , tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2406 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Right the no. 1 objective is game time, so the kid is going to a newly promoted league 1 side. Given that, what makes you think he could get game time with a championship club? And like Fish said, what the fuck does that have to do with Pardew? Sometimes the Pardew bashing for the sake of it is a tad embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted August 10, 2014 Author Share Posted August 10, 2014 I can't believe Pardew didn't secure a loan deal at Man Utd for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKANDWHITEGEORDIE 0 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 If everyone is quite happy for our young players to go on loan to any club that asks then don't be surprised when they come back and don't make it as a first team regular. Name one player who has been on loan over the years and made the first team as a regular. Pardew is ultimately responsible for all the playing staff and unless he doesn't give a flying f**k for the young players should be the one who has the final decision on who goes on loan and where. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2188 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Not so long ago we used to knock the club for not sending the young lads out on loan to get game time. Surely its better to play in competitive L1 matches than meaningless reserve ties? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted August 11, 2014 Author Share Posted August 11, 2014 If everyone is quite happy for our young players to go on loan to any club that asks then don't be surprised when they come back and don't make it as a first team regular. Name one player who has been on loan over the years and made the first team as a regular. Pardew is ultimately responsible for all the playing staff and unless he doesn't give a flying f**k for the young players should be the one who has the final decision on who goes on loan and where. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2406 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 If everyone is quite happy for our young players to go on loan to any club that asks then don't be surprised when they come back and don't make it as a first team regular. Name one player who has been on loan over the years and made the first team as a regular. Pardew is ultimately responsible for all the playing staff and unless he doesn't give a flying f**k for the young players should be the one who has the final decision on who goes on loan and where. Â Andy Carroll. Are we done here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26282 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Wasn't Carroll a bit of a flop when he went to PNE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2406 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 (edited) I think he was. But he was like 18 wasn't he? He was very very raw anyway. Still qualifies and goes against Blacknwhite's idea that loaning players out condemns them to shithouseness somehow. Edited August 11, 2014 by toonotl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12452 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Steven Taylor was loaned out as well as a youngster iirc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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