Gemmill 34151 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 We weren't the ones that started with the generalisations tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5876 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Aye right David Brent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38512 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5876 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 I think the subtext in J69's case is probably "How can you not know that this is a girl's job?" Who started with the generalisations btw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34151 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 That was a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5876 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 My job is far too important and emotive to be done effectively by a woman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catmag 336 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 My job is far too important and emotive to be done effectively by a woman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5876 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Rhythm is a dancer baby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17531 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 So has anyone on here got any idea what I do? I wear a suit to work for starters. Sorry to shatter the illusion You've mentioned your grade before so I must admit I'm surprised you wear a suit. Mental health though is (unfortunately) not a popular career choice in medicine and I am yet to meet a consultant in that area who has impressed me. Anyway, what people wear to work is fairly irrelevant to the interestingness of their job in my experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5876 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 I could name ten band 6 posts that require you to wear a suit to work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5876 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Tripod fail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17531 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 I could name ten band 6 posts that require you to wear a suit to work! I can't think of a single band 8 job that requires it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5876 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 IEvery band 8 I know wears a suit to work. Or is that your attempt at humour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17531 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 IEvery band 8 I know wears a suit to work. Or is that your attempt at humour? By suit do you mean shirt and tie? See, I wear a shirt and tie but even then the tie is optional, except certain meetings. But afaik clinical nurses wear casual clothes in mental health (presumably to fit in with the inpatients), which makes your desk job comment puzzling. Why do you wear a suit if you're not senior management? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5876 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 You do realise that about 90% of MH patients are outpatients don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17531 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 You do realise that about 90% of MH patients are outpatients don't you? I had assumed, perhaps wrongly, most nurses in that field would be tending inpatients. Why do you wear a suit though? Most consultants don't, I don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catmag 336 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Half the time you cant tell the difference between staff and patients in MH anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5876 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Alright nursey, back to handing the surgeon his instruments eh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 1 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 I was working in the daycase unit yesterday. As it was Children in Need, all the nursing staff were wearing pyjamas. If it wasn't for the fact we only do children on Fridays it would have been very difficult to distinguish between patients and staff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catmag 336 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Alright nursey, back to handing the surgeon his instruments eh Anaesthetic nurses don't do that pet - that's scrubbers. We keep the patient alive at the top end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5876 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 I had assumed, perhaps wrongly, most nurses in that field would be tending inpatients. Why do you wear a suit though? Most consultants don't, I don't get it. You're right, you are wrong. History tells us people get better, quicker in their own homes. Only the really unwell (usually sectioned) patients end up on an inpatient ward. Just in Shields over the last couple of years we have had the following teams dealing with patients in the community Crisis team Psychosis team Non psychosis team IAPT Early intervention in psychosis Elderly team Camhs team Assertive outreach team Self harm liaison team Forensic team Adolescent forensic team LD team Children's rapid response team If you are a band 8 I can only assume it's in a non clinical capacity doing some sort of admin due to youre lack of knowledge in relation to the way the NHS is moving towards working. It's not just in MH either. It's an awful lot more cost effective to treat a patient at home or in a day hospital than it is in an inpatient bed where you incur costs for building rent, gas, water, electric, porters, catering staff, cleaning staff, nurses to man the wards amongst a hundred other things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5876 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Anaesthetic nurses don't do that pet - that's scrubbers. We keep the patient alive at the top end. Oh sorry, I thought that was the anaesthetists job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 1 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Anaesthetic nurses don't do that pet - that's scrubbers. We keep the patient alive at the top end. By handing instruments to the anaesthetist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5876 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Im well aware that most nurses are responsible for keeping patients alive and keeping doctor their jobs btw Retract those claws though Catmag eh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17531 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 You're right, you are wrong. History tells us people get better, quicker in their own homes. Only the really unwell (usually sectioned) patients end up on an inpatient ward. Just in Shields over the last couple of years we have had the following teams dealing with patients in the community Crisis team Psychosis team Non psychosis team IAPT Early intervention in psychosis Elderly team Camhs team Assertive outreach team Self harm liaison team Forensic team Adolescent forensic team LD team Children's rapid response team If you are a band 8 I can only assume it's in a non clinical capacity doing some sort of admin due to youre lack of knowledge in relation to the way the NHS is moving towards working. It's not just in MH either. It's an awful lot more cost effective to treat a patient at home or in a day hospital than it is in an inpatient bed where you incur costs for building rent, gas, water, electric, porters, catering staff, cleaning staff, nurses to man the wards amongst a hundred other things. I don't work with patients. I do work with consultants. Infection controls mean that the wearing of long sleeves even is being phased out; hat was my impression anyway. I can't think of any patient benefits for nurses to wear suits. Really, it strikes me as daft. Either wear a uniform or go casual, it's less divisive and patriarchal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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