Gejon 2 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 (edited) And change it to what? Change it back to 433 and Ba spits his dummy out and threatens to leave. This is why I was on about selling Ba earlier. A player who truly loves NUFC would play anywhere as long as we win. Perch does that, Raylor does that, Ba doesn't. Would Shearer have played on the wing for half a season? Let alone play there all the time? Centre forwards are notoriously selfish, greedy. They will want to play in their best position and given he is our best forward I don't see why he shouldn't. If we played that formation this season with Cisse playing as he is we would probably be in bigger shit. I agree we need a shake up but this desperation to get rid of our most prominent goalscorer based on some belief we will suddenly be class is silly. If we are to sell a striker so we can play that formation again why not sell the one who isn't scoring? Edited November 25, 2012 by Gejon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12452 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Painfully bad performance yet again, not sure what's going on but we've went from playing controlled on the ground football to hoofball over the summer. This could have been 5-0 easily if we didn't have Krul they've killed us today, we've let Jason Puncheon look like Mesut Ozil ffs. There's not been one game in the league where we've looked comfortable like we did last year. I understand we've had injuries and suspensions but this is ridiculous, this is Southampton's first clean sheet and we've barely made them work for it. We don't even look drilled at the back like we did last year which makes me nervous something's going on behind the scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrossthepond 699 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 That was truly dreadful. It could've been 5 or 6 and we've been lucky to escape with 'only' a 2-0 hiding. You can't even try to explain why as it's, by and large, the same players as last season who are playing such shit this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I ♥ Daddys Cock 0 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 looked like it was a last game of season with nothing to play for and no heart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Alarming. Any team can have an off day but we've now lost 3 games in a row that we should win 9/10 times. Mind you, can't remember one game this season where we've actually played well. Seriously...we're 4 points above the relegation spots with a few other "shit" teams getting a bit of a roll going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Either they are not putting any thought into who we are going to replace him with (Mark Hughes is likely to be high on the list given his current employment status) or they genuinely believe 'anyone would do better'. Given how many atrocious managers we have had in recent years you would think some would learn. Silly comment really. Nobody likes instability but at some point if things don't improve you either give up or take action. Serious question. At any point would you consider Pardew out? Or are you happy to stick with him even of this run continues and we fall into the bottom 3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 (edited) How is it silly? If Pardew goes, who will come in that'll be a drastic improvement? Remember - Ashley once appointed Joe Kinnear. Joe Kinnear. He'd probably still be at the club if his heart worked better. Edited November 25, 2012 by Monroe Transfer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 3442 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Played 3 rubbish teams now, and put in 3 performances that take you back to Allardyce/Roeder days. Says it all really. You'd think a team with a bit of self respect would have at least tried to improve after the absolute crap served against West Ham and Swansea. But no, they just keep getting worse just when we think they possibly couldn't. Well done lads, doing us proud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonTheMag 4 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Hughsey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 3442 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Did we have a shot on target? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@yourservice 67 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Did we have a shot on target? Anita, he should've scored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeris 0 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 In January, when we have hit rock bottom in the league, I think Ashley's gonna have a try on selling most of our profilic players. I can see that happening for very many reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ULSTER MAG 0 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 3 games we expected to take maximum points from, have got fuck all. Performances are as bad as the relegation season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Feeling genuinely awful for our fans that made the long trip down to Southampton for this. The staff and players should refund their tickets and travel tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 How is it silly? If Pardew goes, who will come in that'll be a drastic improvement? Remember - Ashley once appointed Joe Kinnear. Joe Kinnear. He'd probably still be at the club if his heart worked better. Immaterial second guessing what happens next. We never get that luxury of knowing who a replacement would be. The first question ( and you can answer it too), at one point dovyouvsay sorry Al its not working ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 3442 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Anita, he should've scored. Ah ok. Thanks. Looking for something to be happy about I am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelie 103 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Another dismal performence and to be truthful I expected it and was confident we would lose to a bottom three team. I'm not suggesting Pardew should be sacked but I do reccomend Ashley should be searching for a replacement. Why would Pardew put Sammy in when he had such a rubbish last game. What did Pardew expect to gain by putting Perch in with 3 minutes left of stoppage time? The woodwork was probably our best goal stopper today!! Ba & Cisse had as much striking ability as two spent Swan Vestas. I'm mad as hell, I'm too old to be suffering this much punishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Good to know Simpson's mind has been on the games - http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4663707/tulisas-lover-and-rooney-hooker.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gejon 2 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 (edited) Silly comment really. Nobody likes instability but at some point if things don't improve you either give up or take action. Serious question. At any point would you consider Pardew out? Or are you happy to stick with him even of this run continues and we fall into the bottom 3? Look at Moyes at Everton, do you think they want rid? Considering our spending is similar now and he certainly went through his first few years bouncing up and down the table (In fact it was not until his 6th season that they managed to get a stable record). His first 5 seasons were 15th, 7th, 17th, 4th, 11th.. We desperately need to give a manager time, since SBR left it has been a complete joke. I am not advocating just letting performances get shitter and shitter until we are fucked but a dozen games isn't enough imo, especially as we aren't rooted to the bottom of the able with all the other teams steaming away. We are doing poorly and the performances are a shambles but we need to be sensible, as said there isn't a top class manager desperate to take over either. Ashley has shown the type of manager he would approach (ie no compensation) so unless Guardiola really fancies something different I don't fancy our chances. Edited November 25, 2012 by Gejon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Absolutely embarrassing that Sammy Ameobi can get a game. He is proving himself utter dross at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 I am not advocating just letting performances get shitter and shitter until we are fucked So answer the question then? How long would you let this go on before acting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 So answer the question then? How long would you let this go on before acting? More than 12 games. Read his post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gejon 2 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 So answer the question then? How long would you let this go on before acting? To be honest I don't have a set figure in my head, I just think it's very important not to go 'Fuck, it's not working, let's change it again!' as soon as things go a bit sour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 3442 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Oh well. It feels like good old Newcastle again now and a good old Newcastle forum as well. Last season was a little bit of a bonus from the footballing Gods for us it seems. Normal service has been restored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonMarshy 2 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Another disappointing performance, hopefully come january we'll grab some fresh blood in, keep key players and start a fresh fight up the table. Tactics are not working with what we've got. But regardless, getting on their back aint gonna achieve anything, just strap in and keep in mind it can't ever get as bad as 2008 again!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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