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2 minutes ago, Rayvin said:

 

Do you suppose that the reports do exist, and the government is just chancing getting away with not revealing it...?

 

It would give the Tories the ability to make them work to their advantage.

They got maps and couloured them in red meaning bad and green meaning good.

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Given that David Davis is the shambles of a man looking after Brexit I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if he didn't order any sectoral impact reports. He has pretty much fucked up his job at every turn.

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Completely agree with the Institute for Government here and this is what concerns me most. As a country, losing sight of the value of evidence in  informing policy puts us at a huge competitive disadvantage. 

 

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Response to statement by the Speaker on alleged contempt of Parliament

14th December 2017

Responding to today’s statement by the Speaker on David Davis' alleged contempt of Parliament, Bronwen Maddox, Director at the Institute for Government, said: 

"The Speaker has found the Secretary of State for Exiting the EU, David Davis, not to be in contempt of Parliament. However, the Government has shown contempt for the principle of making decisions based on thorough evidence and analysis."

"David Davis said to the Commons Committee on Exiting the EU that the Government had not undertaken formal impact assessments of Brexit. This not only appeared to contradict previous ministerial assertions but also showed a disregard for the principle of making decisions based on thorough evidence and analysis."

"This is no way to approach such a profound change in the UK’s relationship with close trading partners and allies. Brexit will affect businesses and the UK economy more than any other decision made by government in recent years. To forge ahead and enter negotiations with the EU without the benefit of extensive analysis of the potential risks, costs and benefits is reckless."

"Ministers should base their views of the UK’s future relationship with the EU on proper analysis of the likely impact on the UK economy by sector and region. So should Parliament, businesses and the public. Keeping them in the dark does nothing for the quality of public understanding and debate, for the ability of businesses and individuals to make plans, or for trust in government."

 

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Yep. The narratives are the fundamental things now - which is perhaps generally always the case when you leave the middle ground and head into ideological territory. Not just in the UK though, fwiw.

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On 12/12/2017 at 9:27 PM, Christmas Tree said:

 

Keep digging :lol:

 

The PM made it clear at the dispatch box yesterday that it will be October 2018.

 

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Oh dear, @Christmas Tree . 'As quickly as possible' and no phase two talks until it becomes legislation. You keep going though, Champ, you'll get one right some day.

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I doubt CT has ever a read a document with super scripted citations in his life.

 

Anyhow, my reading of this is that, because of NI, it ties us to a soft Brexit. As I've said all along. 

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12 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

May is insisting that phase 2 talks will start immediately. Juncker says they'll start in March. 

 

Can this garbage-breathed bitch get anything right? 

It's almost like they don't need us more than them, aren't desperate for a deal, and we dont hold all the cards!?

 

How can this be??? :wacko:

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